Guest General Jerry Boykin
Pastor Jack and General Boykin discuss the current cultural dilemma on masculinity and how to stand firm upon the biblical definition of what it means to be a man.
Pastor Jack and General Boykin discuss the current cultural dilemma on masculinity and how to stand firm upon the biblical definition of what it means to be a man.
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Hey friends today, we have a special guest, a man I respect greatly general William Jerry Boykin. One of the founding members of the us army Delta force. This is a man's man and we're gonna be discussing is masculinity really toxic? Be sure. And send me your thoughts and your questions, your comments and feedback right firstname.lastname@example.org. You can always subscribe to Jack Hibbs podcast by hitting the subscribe button, wherever you're at wherever you listen to your podcast. Then also as a reminder, stay connected with me to find fresh new programs, messages, live events all by going to jacks.com. So listen, adjust your pods. Turn up the volume, get ready. Let's roll,
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Well with us today is, uh, not only, uh, a tremendous man of God, a a lover of men. And I mean, he, he dedicates his time to speaking to men across America. But I have to tell you a man who has spoken in my life, God has spoiled me in many ways. And one of them is with general Jerry Boykin, who has been a, uh, an American living hero and a defender of our freedoms. I love, I love what he stands for, cuz it's not only our biblical worldview and the, the truth of God's word, but he stands for the freedom of our nation. And, uh, as long as we have freedom, we can preach, right? If you think about that. So with us on this program is a man of God in general. I love you. And I thank you for so many times. You've made a difference in my life. And I don't want to ask you the questions that you seem to always get. And I, and I understand that I've asked them of you many times as well, but I want to ask you let's just break away from the normal mm-hmm <affirmative> um, I want you to start this conversation off with what is the most important issue topic that you'd like to bring up if you had the chance to call it? So now's your moment to call it?
Well, uh, Jack, I, I would like to, uh, talk for a few minutes about, uh, the, the crisis in masculinity today in America, where we, we actually have universities now that are teaching overcoming toxic masculinity. The university of Texas of all of all places has declared masculinity to be a mental disorder. And now you stop and think about that. So the question is, where did all this come from? Where did it come from? Well, first of all, we need to understand it's diabolical. That's right. It's an assault men. It is assault men, but, but from an earthly perspective, this came out of the Marxist movement in America. People don't yet fully understand that in 1958, the communist party USA wrote a book. Title of the book was the naked communist, 1958. And what do you think America thought of that book? America laughed and said, you can't take over America. You can't do these things, but they laid out exactly what they were gonna do. And what I wanna focus on here is one of the things that they were gonna do was they were gonna destroy the families in America. There you go, make the families disintegrate in America. And the best way to get to the family is through the father.
So we going after men, they said, and what did they say they were gonna do? They were gonna get, uh, they were gonna promote easy divorce. Yeah, they were gonna promote pornography as a, as a first amendment, right? They were gonna promote homosexuality as being normal and healthy. So they told us that they were gonna destroy the family by going after the men in the home, the fathers in the home and, and, and look at the crisis in absentee fathers today. And, and it's about it. It's about 40% for all, uh, races, all ethnic groups, but, uh, it's about 70 plus percent for the black community. And it's, it's just destroying the black community, but it's affecting all races in, in America. But what they said they were gonna do is they were going to promote easy divorce. That's where we came up with no fault divorce.
They were going to promote pornography as being a first amendment, right. They were gonna promote homosexuality as being normal and healthy. And then, uh, they, they went off on and told us about a number of other things. Like they were gonna get men hooked on gambling and hooked on sports and that type of thing. So if you look at what's happening in the home today, you, you see a lot of men are very distracted by these things, pornography being probably the worst, but, uh, and that's destroying families, just destroying relationships. And do you know that, uh, according to Josh McDowell, three out of five, every five divorces pornography is listed as one of the major causes for that divorce. So they have succeeded. This is where that came from. It came from the communist part of USA because it's their idea that they're destroy America as a result of, uh, of, of the book that they wrote. We need to pay attention to what they're doing.
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You can order it now. And so now we fast forward to it. It seems as though that what Isaiah told us and Isaiah chapter five, that in the last day is good, would be called evil, evil, good light for dark, dark, for light. And so we're seeing it to the point now with such a speed mm-hmm <affirmative> where if you stand up today and say, um, Hey, we're celebr. Imagine, remember the old days, like almost, uh, it wasn't all that long ago where you might be at a restaurant cuz you, you you've taken Ashley out for an anniversary dinner. I've got Lisa out for a special dinner or maybe somebody would say, oh, you, Hey, this is our anniversary we've been married for. And now it went from celebration to, to people just didn don't care. That's like, can he do that? What is, what was so normal now is something that you almost feel like you have to apologize for it, right? So they're succeeding
And the big lie today, the big lie today is that if you were born with the genitalia of a male, you don't have to spend your life that way because what you actually might be is a woman or vice versa. Now I, I can tell you how to figure it out. I mean, I can tell you how to know whether you're a man or not. The
Client has done it pretty well for thousands
Of years done it pretty well, but this is the big lie. And, and the problem is that society has bought into this lie and they're perpetuating this lie. And I don't care what you say. I cannot imagine that any man or woman can change their, their gender, particularly if they go through the surgery and the hormones and all that and ever really truly be happy, no, with what they've done, this is a diabolical, uh, issue. Absolutely. And it is, it is influenced right out of the pits of hell.
What you said is not only true, but now we are funding with taxpayer dollars to achieve what you just talked about. But if I break, open my Bible at the park or at the city and start preaching the gospel, there's a good chance that I will. In fact, you can plan on being harassed. You certainly cannot count on the local powers defending my first amendment, right? If that even exists anymore. But would you say, and I don't wanna put words in your mouth, but I view it this way and it might be extreme general. I used to think that when I studied Timothy, when Paul told Timothy in the last day's perilous times will come and in that there's gonna be this age of doctrines of demons. I always put the cults and the a cult in that thinking, oh yes, oh, a cult church of Satan. All of course it belongs in that grouping, but I've now expanded it. Doctrines of demons. The word doctrine is Didas it's teachings the teachings of demons. It doesn't say that's limited to theological terms. What I believe we're saying today. And I'm just speaking for myself that when you sit down and you tell a kid or confuse a kid by what you're presenting, I believe that's a doctrine of demonic activity.
I think it's child abuse. It is child abuse. And, and I totally agree with child abuse, absolutely child abuse is demonic. Absolutely.
There's sick. No question about it. And men are so confused right now because of this very thing. But you know, going back to Isaiah, I wo to you to says, whoa, who call good, evil and evil, good. That's a warning. And we've been doing that now. This is not new. We've been doing that for, for a number of years here, calling good evil and evil. We call killing babies right in the womb. And in the state that I live in now, Virginia, you've got a governor. There's a pediatrician that has said that if a baby is born alive in an attempted abortion, we'll make that baby comfortable and then have a discussion with the mother, a discussion about what about killing that baby? That is diabolical. That is evil. And we're calling that good. So much of our society. Yeah. But here's the other thing. How about the churches today? The churches and, and what really gets me, Jack is some of these pastors today. Some of these not so much pastors, as much as spiritual leaders say, God has revealed to me that we've got it all wrong about marriage and human sexuality. I
Read that just the other day.
Yeah. And then, uh, and I, you know what I think God has revealed to me that you are a coward. Yeah. You're a coward, right? Because you don't have the backbone to stand on the truth of the word of God and, and the arrogance for you to think that God has waited all this time to finally pick you to reveal that all those that have gone before us have had it wrong about human sexuality and marriage.
Exactly. Yeah. These are the same guys who will say, well, the Bible, nowhere addresses these issues. And yet by them saying so by them saying, so the scriptures not only address it, but the scriptures anticipated their denial of reality departing from the truth, but they don't see it. They've gone down a path that they themselves now have blinded themselves to the light and it's, and, and we've got people running organizations, running churches, and you know, the old, the old pastors of yesterday year, the J Vernon McGees and the Adrian Rogers. They're the ones that told us, don't read anybody's commentaries until they're dead, because it's only after they're dead, that they can't change their minds. And you think about that today. So people will say, what do I don't know what to do? I don't know. We've got, like you mentioned, we've got some rockstar status pastors and spiritual leaders.
We do who, who, it's easier to nail jello to the wall than to get a, an opinion from them or a ruling on a verse or an issue. And people get confused and you gotta counter back to them and say, what are you doing? Listening or talking to me or to anyone go to the word of God, it's all there. And it's clear, but I, I think a great part of our, uh, nation's woes among so many other things is just the lack of getting back to the word. Uh, the nation look, uh, Alexa de Oak Tofield made comment about the greatness of America was not found in it's in industrious harbors, but it was found in the pulpit of its
Churches found in the churches. And remember that we've, we fought two wars that were brought against, brought about by the church. Wow. The first was the American revolution, right? Where that black robe regimen, the
Black robe regimen, the colonial pastors
That's right. That wore those black vests. And they began to preach hard sermons about separating from the crown of England, because that was tyranny, right. And God created us to be a free people. And, and they brought about the revolutionary war because the British even said when the war was over with, they said, had it not been for that black robe regiment that's right. These 13 states would still be British colonies.
Those were the words of act of king George, the third himself. Yeah.
And the second war was the civil war with the second great awakening as they you're.
They went across the mountains into modern day, Tennessee and, and West Virginia and the Ohio valley and began to preach these sermons about you can't believe the words of the constitution and still hold the black man of slave and Harriet beat your St. And yep. And Charles Finney and all of those people that were writing about or talking about the, the spiritual imperative. Wow. For us to establish freedom for the black man. And we fought a war, 700,000 Americans were killed in that war.
You know, David Barden points out some great historical points where regarding the civil war, there were an incredible amount of, of black Baptist preachers that made history with their crowds and their messages, but it's not much reported. But the, the remarkable thing is they all black man and white man both preached from the same scripture, the same message. And that was the God of the Bible is the God of Liberty and freedom. I, I wanna preface with what I'm gonna ask as we begin to wrap this up, because as long as God's on his throne, there's, there will always be hope will never, never, uh, be unavailable to us as a nation. I'm talking about nationally, not individually as a believer general, as I look around this nation for the first time in my life. Um, it's hard for me to see a way out of the cultural dilemma that we're in. I know God, it's gonna take revival, which will affect a cultural shift, but outside of revival, among God's people, I don't see, I don't see much of a change. Please help me if I'm wrong. Uh, what do you think you've got grandkids as I, what do you, what do you see when you look at their little faces? What do you see? What do you think?
I, I am, I'm very worried about their future Jack, uh, and my wife and I talked about this and we, we said a few years ago after they had left after Christmas, you know, they were all, all sex grandchildren were there at Christmas and, you know, three 'em were boys. And at that time they were all under nine years old. And of course, it's just pandemonium, you know, it's not as loud. Yeah, absolutely. But when they left, we, my wife said to me, what kind of country are we gonna leave them? And that's when we said we will do all that. We all that we have to do to try and preserve their future. Now I think we're coming to, I think we're coming closer, obviously. I mean, I'm stating the obvious every day to the return of Christ. Yeah. I
Amen. I believe
It. And I believe the sky's gonna open and I think it'll be in my lifetime to be very honest with you, but I believe there is still a harvest. Yes. And I think what has to happen is America has to get so disgusted with ourselves and become so aware of just how broad this evil is and how destructive it is what's going on in this country. And it goes back to what we're talking about, telling little boys that they can be a little girl, if they want to, or a little girl that can be a little boy that is so diabolical. And it is so evil. We've gotta get so disgusted with ourself that we're willing to listen. And then we gotta have the Jack Hibbs and the Tony Perkins of the world that are still staying true to the message of the gospel. Because people are going to reach a point where they're going to want to hear truth. They're gonna recognize that we have come so far and spiraled down that there's only one way out of this and that's looking up,
You know what you just said? Um, I think it was yesterday. You were praying for me and praying over me. And you may not even remember this, but it's been just stuck in my head since, and it's created a godly fear. And what it was you, you said something to the effect in, in your prayer for me, Jack guts, God wants to use you. He wants to use you. And for the first time in my Christian life general, um, I'd be, I I'd be it's. I, I sensed a, a godly fear of time running out. Mm-hmm <affirmative> meaning Lord, if you're speaking through the general, I'm all in <affirmative> mm-hmm, <affirmative> that being true? I don't want time to run out. Of course that's his business, right? But what's been in my mind since you prayed was Jesus. You said, do the work now while you can, because night is soon coming.
Mm-hmm <affirmative> when no man can work. And I'm telling you, listen, friends, uh, boy, I wish we could just go on for hours, but this is listen. This is part of the legacy. And the heritage of walking with Jesus general boy can continues to pour his life into thousands of men across this nation. And look with his decorated career over 30 years, serving this nation and some of the highest levels of our nation's defense. He could be down in Florida right now on a boat fishing feed up, but he's here in Southern California tonight making a difference in the lives of men. What does that mean? It means that you fight and you push and you go and you continue until it's over. And it's not over until our great general says so, and our great General's on his way. Remember the general just alluded to that crisis coming.
And the Bible says that when he comes, he's coming next time as a Victor, not as a sacrifice, he did that once 2000 years ago, he's not doing that again. He's coming as a Victor. He's the king of Kings and the Lord of Lords. And it's our prayer and desire that, you know, Jesus Christ notice we're not peddling a church, a religion, a system we're not selling you materials and join the club. You notice that we're inviting you to know Jesus Christ personally, as Lord and savior. That's what we're about. And all the difference of the world will come to you. You want a new life. Jesus is the only way that that can happen. You put your faith and trust in him. You call out to him. He said, I'll never leave you forsake you. So you make sure that that happens in your life.
Cuz aren't you tired. Have you looked around, have you been terrorized and wrapped up in fear with COVID and all that other stuff? Listen, this is what the world does to you. When it gets a chance. Well, you need to find out what Jesus can do with you. When he gets a chance to get a hold of you. It be a world of difference both now, and it's both known forever. So listen, if you wanna find out more, you can visit us, get tons of more teachings, sermons, interviews like this, and so much more simply go to Jack hibbs.com, Jack hibbs.com. And you can find out just so much more. And we'd love to welcome you to the family of God. If you're making that decision to follow Christ until then general. Thank you. Go bless your brother. Thank you.
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