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June 2, 2022

Jack Hibbs Interviews Josiah O’Neil – Congressional Candidate

Guest Josiah O’Neil

Jack Hibbs interviews the Congressional candidate for California’s 49th district, Josiah O’Neil. What’s it going to take to turn this state and country around? The churches have to wake up! We as Christians must take back our God-given mandate to steward government. Christian . . . will you surrender your voice or stand?

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Well, everybody, we've got a very special program coming your way right now, hard hitting to the point direct I have Josiah O'Neil, uh, with us today running for Congress 49th district. And you need to sit up and take, uh, a listen to what he has to say for a lot of reasons. But one of him is he's a us army combat veteran, uh, medic. If I remember right, he has served in, uh, the diplomatic security, high threat, uh, services to our, uh, key officials. I know that, uh, he provided security for, uh, a friend of mine by the name of secretary Mike Pompeo. He's now active law enforcement protecting, uh, here us in Southern California. He's a brother. He has got an awesome voice and a mean worship leader. And, uh, he needs your vote and your love as he's running for office. Because when I look at this guy, I not only see somebody who's running for office that should be in office, but I see somebody who, um, I can trust my life with. And, and I have, and I do. Don't forget that you can always subscribe to the jacks podcast by hitting subscribe, wherever you listen to your podcast. So gesture your pods, turn up the volume and get ready. Let's roll 

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Josiah, thanks for being here and what we need to do. Listen, I'm a voter you're running for office. You gotta gimme some hope here, man. I'm in California. I'm not going anywhere. I'm I know a lot of people have. I'm not leaving. Uh, I'm waiting for heaven in the meantime, I'm gonna fight and in this beautiful cesspool called California, but you gotta throw me something. Why should somebody, why should somebody vote? Why should somebody get in the fight? Yeah. Why are you in the fight? Absolutely. 

Well, thanks for having me, first of all. Yeah, you bet. Um, yeah, so I guess the Ray of hope would be that we know how to fix the problems. We know exactly what we need to do. The question is will people exercise their civic, right? And go and vote. Um, before we get into any of the, you know, deeper issues, let's just clarify that we could solve a lot of the problems we have by people showing up to vote. We still have now to date astronomical numbers of people who do not vote. We see that in the primaries. In fact, it's worth mentioning that most people think it's it's the most voter turnout is during the presidential election, because there's this concept, you know, they're, they're looking for a messianic figure. It's right. The president could save us and, and it's just not true. And the left knows that, uh, they know the value of the grassroot movement of your school boards and your county supervisors and your judges and your district attorneys. 

In fact, they've put a lot of money and effort into taking those positions. And just recently, in my, in my, uh, campaign, looking at that voter data was shocking for me. Uh, I can speak directly to I'm running in California's 49th district where there's almost 800,000 people and close to only 10% of people actually vote in the primaries and of those people, that's usually the establishments pick, right? So most people don't even see the candidates who are running. Right, right. That's ridiculous. So, yeah. So yeah. And, and we, we know exactly what's wrong and we know how to fix it, but people, first of all, have to put people there who, who can fix the problem. Right. You, you can't solve a problem if you don't understand it. Yeah. And that's a big issue for us in, in politics. 

Yeah. Well, the awesome thing about you being a candidate, what people may not realize is that you're in you, you are remarkably equipped for this, and you have fought and served for Liberty and freedom. You know what the Constitution's about? You've defended it. And today, like you're saying, there's this apathy that is permeating our age. You mentioned 800,000 plus voters in the 49th, but isn't the truth. Uh, this, that if the Christians cared enough about their culture there's schools, where they live, what that, you know, in the 49th, that if the Christians went out and voted, you'd, you'd win hands down. You're a brother. You love the word of God. You love the Bible. You love America. Uh, you're the entire package and people who say, well, you know what, there's nobody that fits my biblical worldview. Or, you know what, it's all this way. Or that way, there are Christians who either hide behind that or create a, their own padded, a room of excuses to just be lazy that day. And what I love about who you are is that you're, you are challenging the person that is bearing their talent. I believe God, in this Republic has given us the responsibility to vote. And the Lord has brought you forward. I mean, I'd like to see everybody in the 49th vote for you, but I would certainly hope to expect that every Christian would get out and vote for you. 

Yeah. Uh it's it's it's and, and I think it's worth noting. Um, why your stance on politics is so valuable for such a time as this, uh, in fact, you know, earlier we, we were talking about, um, uh, Jim Garlow, pastor Jim Garlow wrote a book. Well, verse I actually have it right here. Great man. Um, biblical answers to today's tough issues. And I noticed just, just in the very beginning that he's talking about some polling that, um, he did through a different study in pew research also confirmed that recently Christians want to be more involved in politics. That's right. And it was surprising to see that the reason they weren't was not because, uh, lack of desire or because they didn't care. It was that they didn't know what to say. They didn't know how to counter the issues. And so I turn back to the pastors and say, why don't your, why, why don't they know what, what are you teaching them? Right. They're not equipped to deal with relevant issues of the day. And, and I also learned something else. That's very interesting. And I would put this out there in case people don't know, I still get people coming up to me saying, well, you know, the church is a 5 0 1 C three, and you shouldn't be involved in this. And that, that is absolute 

Garbage like that, like that would matter to them. Right. They would just find something else to hide behind. Of 

Course. Um, and, and I didn't know that, you know, Lydon B Johnson that's right. Who got that amendment in there in 52, really had an issue with two individuals. That's right. One was a media mogul and the other guy was an oil guy. And they had used their 5 0 1 C three organizations to put a lot of money against his race. And he was mad about it. So he fits this amendment in there and it actually coincidentally affected the churches. And according to some of the guys that helped him put that amendment together, the church wasn't the target. Now there's actually 29 different categories of 5 0 1 [inaudible] threes. Right. That's 


But, um, only three of them are barred from engaging in politics, according to the Johnson amendment. And one of those three happens to be the church. Um, that's of course, and, and you know this, and I'm talking to the wider audience, but we, we 

Give them the permission to, to bar our ban us, which is this, the Johnson amendment is absolutely unconstitutional. It's a pure violation of the first amendment. Absolutely. There are organizations that we work with ADF, uh, and others that are challenging that all the time we send politically incorrect sermons to the IRS and the department of justice to provoke a lawsuit. This has been going on for decades, but they won't pick it up because it'll go straight to the Supreme court. It's a 

Clear violence. And that's 

What we're trying to do. We're exactly. We're trying to get to the Supreme court so we can get the Johnson movement destroyed, cuz it can't hold an ounce of water. But here's the part that I'm concerned about is pastors. I, they should be able to say, this is the gospel teach a biblically based message, lead 50, 150 people to Christ every week. And at the same time have voter registration in their, uh, church and encourage people to know what the issues are and what candidates are. Pro-life. You know, people think it's against the law. You can't do that. You can inform your congregation of what candidates are, are pro border, uh, strength. Pro-life pro constitution pro second amendment pro first amendment. You can do that. You can do that legally and, and a lot of other things. And uh, I'm hoping, I mean, I'm hoping that that pastors are waking up. I gotta tell you associated press call today. And they wanted to interview and we went through it and uh, that's the first thing she brought up is pastor rumor, has it that you don't obey the Johnson amendment? And I said, absolutely not. Uh, we're trying to take her to the Supreme court. Yeah, 

Exactly. That's 

Awesome. And she was a Hindu and after the interview, she said, that's amazing. That's fantastic. Thanks for doing that. 

And, and for, for people who, you know, maybe listening and don't understand the first amendment explicitly says, the government will not tell the pulpits what to do. That, that is what guarantees that the government doesn't establish the state, religion and force everybody to follow it. Yep. In fact, that that was such a valuable concept. Right? Exactly. Oh my goodness. That, that even those who were deed in their own words still rode their horses up Pennsylvania avenue and went to church that's right. The capital building because they, they understood the value of that Christian Judeo perspective. As I've mentioned before, Winston Churchill said it was inexorable from Western civilization. That's awesome. As the access powers grew in Europe, he realized the only thing that's gonna stop this secular humanist murder is the Christian Judeo values that make Western civilization, you know? And, and that gives us a unique perspective when it comes to issues because our worldview is correct. And, and that's where the left goes. AEW, if your worldview's not correct, you don't have a thing called discernment. Mm-hmm <affirmative>, you can't properly divide between right. And wrong. And now that they're open about this, they, they openly say, there's no such thing as right and wrong. That's right. They encourage mental illness. They encourage the abuse emotionally and physically of our chil children. And so nothing that results from a skewed worldview is trustworthy. This is why good intentions aside. They don't solve problems. Look at California. That's right. 

Perfect example, 

These, these, these, uh, the laws that we pass soft on crime laws, uh, the lack of security on the border, these are common sense issues. It's it's, you know, it doesn't take a genius to, to look at some of these situations and say that doesn't make any sense right now. Um, the left's perspective and their ideology is skewed from the get go. The worldview is wrong, right? They, when, when you, when you abandon the concept of accountability, because we are created and you go to the socialist Marxist perspective of the greater good and the, the state should be the DD, et cetera, then you almost have to have chaos. Now here's, what's ironic. That's right. We were talking about this earlier, right? Isn't it ironic that the same individuals causing the problems then get to present themselves as the solution? 

Listen, you know, that's an ancient tactic. 

Absolutely. It is absolutely. In fact, at San Antonio Ramsey, it's, it's Marxist at, at their finest. Even 

Before that it was, and it is a tactic of advancing Islam. It's actually an Islamic doctrine that you go into a community or region that you are, are wanting to take over and that you create a problem. And then you go to the present or existing authorities and offer them the solution. And that's how you get in. And you get in by the way in quick order. And so that is a tactic and they're doing it. What's amazing to me is we need to do this. We need to do, we need to pay $7 a gallon for gas, for the greater good. And you, you correctly said that, that the lift us left is progressive. They don't, they don't, they can't make a, a difference between good and evil, but their verbiage is you, you all need to suffer for the, for the, the better good, the, the, the good of it. 

All which their definition is the good of it all is for the exaltation of our team, not your team, our team, not us. It's we here not you there. And, uh, California, California is such a quintessential example of what's wrong and how to govern wrongly that we just saw the other day on bright Bart think headline news. It was Kamala Harris and Gavin Newsom holding up their hands together. And Gavin Newsome's quote was, I have no doubt that Kamala Harris will be the next president of the United States. Yeah. What does that mean? Read between the lines? Kamala Harris will be the next president of United States and Gavin. Newsome's the vice president. Hmm. Those are two people from California from the bay area. What more of a warning do you need to have? Mm-hmm <affirmative> that we're heading in the wrong direction, but we can change that if people vote, they gotta register to vote and they gotta get out and vote, but listen, so yeah, everything's wrong in California. Tell somebody why they should still practice voting. 

Well, it's like what I said, right? We, we, we properly identified the problem. So now we know how to solve it. Right. We know what's behind the transient solution because our worldview is correct. We know that accountability is necessary. We know that it's not so much, um, the fact that people don't have physical houses as much as it is 50% drug addiction and 50% mental illness that's right, right. We know that we need to make the conservative ship process easier so that we can actually help people. We're we're essentially reversing all the purposeful damage. The left is done to California to breed dependency. Mm. Because as the, for, uh, you know, our founders said, um, dependence breeds, subservient that's right. And so that's what they're playing out right now. And because we know that we can stop it, we can make a difference, a at a minimum, we can educate and use the platform to inform people. Because an informed people are a dangerous people. That's right. And the left doesn't want people informed no way. They want to keep 'em down and subservient. And, and California is a perfect example of that where California destroys us with taxes and overburdens us with like, things like the gas tax. Yeah. And then turns around and says, this is why you need to vote for us because the gas are high. Exactly. I mean, if that's not just the dumbest thing I've ever heard, I 

It's, it's very, if you, if you step back 250 years ago, it's England and colonies all over again. Absolutely. 

Just like that. Gavin Newsome declaring, he has a $97 billion surplus was the most offensive thing that I've heard recently. Right. Because he, he, he, he proclaimed it as if it was some kind of point of pride. Right. And, and all I heard was you stole 97 billion by overtaxing people without representation. And 

Our roads are still messed up. He didn't spend it. 

Crime is through the roof, through the fentanyl overdoses are out of control. Human trafficking is out of control. The roads aren't fixed. I mean, the people are fleeing California by the thousands, moving to places like middle Tennessee to, to, to chase the American dream. That's no longer possible in California. Right. Right. But he wants to talk about how much money he's taken. It's not his money. It's our 

Money. What's gonna have to happen for the unthinkable. <laugh> for some people it's even the unreadable act that California could actually come back. What is it going to take? What what's gonna happen? 

The churches have to wake up. Yep. Bo bottom line, the, the numbers are, are pretty bad. Yes. It's, it's roughly 50% of professing. Christians never even register to vote. 

Yeah. Pathetic, but bearing their talent, by the way. That's, that's exactly what Jesus warned about. Don't bury your light or your talent under a basket. And that's exactly what 

They're doing. Yes, absolutely. And we are the primary, primary purveyors of Western civilization. It was the church and the left knows that that's why they try to silence that. No doubt. Right. So if, if the church is alone, would start preaching truth and, and, and tell their people that it's not enough to just believe in Jesus, but you have to live it. You have to be doers of the word, not heroes, only Uhhuh. If that alone would change, we would see massive revival in this state because like it or not, we have the power, you know, what completely obliterates the establishment and all the politicians and all the millions of dollars in the world, the citizens showing up to vote that's right. It doesn't matter how much money they spend. 

That's even true. If they're gonna embark upon cheating. If there's an overwhelming show of people, the people can actually thwart cheating by just sheer numbers. 

Of course. And it's a, uh, there's a windfall effect, right? So that's right. The, the, the, um, the people that we allow to get into office then cause us harm. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. So, you know, there's a, there's a lot of work that we do, and it's important calling represented, uh, or your elected officials and, and trying to voice our concern over these assembly bills, but right. We need to, we need to kind of take a step back and say, if we stop these people from getting elected in the first place, there you go. There wouldn't be so much suffering to protest. And that's a question I've had is as, even in my candidacy, as I look at again, not to be the dead horse, but as I look at the amount of people that show up to vote, look, I see all the complaining on Facebook and Instagram and how outrage people are on rumble. And I thought, well, I hope to see you at the polls. Exactly. Because how about we turn that rage into civic duty? How about we get them out there and vote? 

I don't wanna, uh, conjure up or give anybody an excuse to use the word conspiracy, but I'm an I'm I'm old enough to be your dad. When I went to school, re civics was required of us. We had to learn it. And it was ingrained within the orange county, California school system that we would someday vote. We're gonna vote someday. And I remember, and I haven't missed a vote since when I was 18. I, I voted for the first time I've been voting ever since. Wow. It was expected. It was the world we grew up in. And isn't interesting. I think there's a correlation to the fact that today you stop a kid today and asking them about civics. They don't even know what the word means. They know all about Marilyn Monroe's bikini size, but they cannot tell you, uh, the three branches of the federal government, they cannot tell you how a bill, uh, gets to the floor. 

They don't even know who their governor is, let alone the president. It's, it's something that almost makes you think, is this been a long plot, a long game, because how can we wake up to be so dumb and yet, absolutely. And yet we are, but to answer your question about those who would get up and vote and get engaged and get going. Um, granted I'm playing my string on my guitar from my end. I believe the answer to the challenge is not only people getting out to vote and not only the church, I believe it's the pastor being biblical. And when I say biblical, every person I read about every prophet, every situation of the book of acts, everything that they're telling me is something that is relevant happen to them in the moment. And they'll address emperors. They're addressing, uh, governors, they're addressing leaders from punches pilot to the, to Nero's right? Yep. And the scriptures don't run away from what we call politics, the scriptures answers. Yes. They do. What I would like to put as this spin of politics. I have a belief that, uh, God has given us the institution of marriage, of the church and government. Yeah. But what about politics? Politics is what man does to government. How does that happen? We allow them to politicize government. Right. And what we're talking about is us taking back our God, given mandate to be stewards of this constitutional form of government. 

That's a really good point because what the left would often want you to believe is a political issue is not that's right. It's a moral issue. That's right. And so they've taken what used to be within the purview of the church, all throughout society and turned it into politics when really laws like prop 47, which we shoot to death all the time. Right. You know, not holding criminals accountable for stealing. Those are moral issues. That's right. And the church should stand up for what's right. Not for, uh, being dismissed by politicians. Who've convinced them to be ineffectual. And it's a great point about the branches of government, because yes, we do have the judicial, the executive and the legislative, but we also have often less talked about a powerful component, which is the voting process. <laugh>. And even though we wouldn't consider it a branch, it is certainly a method by which the citizens hold people accountable. Because look, all of these laws that we complain about, they come from people who were elected. So these, these elected officials make really big decisions. Like when we go to war and how much money they take out of your pocket and absolutely how we respond to national emergencies and that power is in the voter's hand. 

I love that. 


I love that, uh, the three branches really answer to the trunk. 


Which is we, the people. Yep. That's well said good 

Job. Because, because in, in a, in a, you know, it's often heard and you hear this all the time. People say, we're, we're the government for the people by the people. But what that actually means is what makes us different than an oligarchy or, um, you know, uh, the Kings and Queens of England, what makes us different? Is that here we are, the government that's right. Uh, the people we are govern, we govern ourselves. So we let people go to DC to oversee some things that's right. And if they mess up, we hold 'em accountable, they're supposed to fire them and they're done that's right. So, so this is clearly a, a deeper, and there's a spiritual side to that where the enemy came in and convinced the church to, to, to be completely ineffectual in their society. And, and where now you have the church looking to the social sciences for answers, instead of the word of God, 

The PA exactly. The pastor should be the Clarion Watchman. That's informing his church regarding biblical application to the issues that the people are dealing with every day. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, seriously. I mean, even, even this taxes, the tax deal, I mean, we don't usually talk about it. We just pay 'em. But now here in California, it's getting so obscene that it's, it's actually like our good friend, Bob McEwen tells us that there's only two people who could Rob you, a guy with a gun or the government, and in California, the guy that has a gun, he doesn't even have the, the wherewithal to Rob you anymore. He can't afford the gas to get to you to Rob you. I mean, it's unbelievably nuts. 

It's, it's, it's absolutely ridiculous. And it is a long game and conservatives need to learn that, uh, this takes time and dedication. The left's been at this for a long time. Mm-hmm <affirmative> right. I mean, um, yep. Uh, Cleon goon wrote the naked communists, which outlined 45 points the communists were trying to achieve against Western civilization. And if you were to skip forward to today, cuz I, I don't remember the exact year that he wrote that it was late forties, fifties when he wrote that book, the naked communists. But if you skip forward to today, you'll see that they've accomplished virtually every single point that was aimed at attacking the foundations of the United States. Right? Yeah. Even Stalin knew that America was based on faith, on patriotism and family. And he said, if you can take down those three America will fall within itself. And so what's, what's wild is that the Democrats have essentially completely adopted that platform. 

All of their issues center around degrading in order to cause that dependency, which then leads to subservient, right? So not, let's not empower people in, uh, inner cities. Let's not, let's not take our problem, uh, neighborhoods and teach them how to work, teach them accountability. Uh let's educate them. No, no, no. Let's, let's keep them dependent on the government. The left says. And so that we can depend on them for votes and we increase in power. Absolutely. And the church is, is a wall to that because we do not believe that we are ultimately accountable to the state. That's we's accountable to God. Right. And the founders believe this too. That's that's why we have inable rights, which they believed came and were endowed upon us by a creator, not the government. They don't give us our rights. They protect them. Yep. So, so we are in a very, very dangerous place in our country right now because increasingly you meet, as you mentioned, you learned civics growing up. I, I would challenge anyone to go out on the street and ask anyone. Let's just pick a number 35 and younger. If they understand civics or voting, I, I would wager that most people in that age category would say we don't vote or I don't care about politics. Right. They're so wrapped up in whatever the current distraction is, social media or experts, you know, doing whatever they're doing that we've completely lost that. And the only group that benefits that are individuals seeking to control people that's 


Very dangerous. 

Yeah. You know, man, I, I, when the wall came down in Russia and Soviet union and we were almost immediately there and we saw a culture that was aimless walking about completely stoned out on vodka, they were, the Russians had lost all hope. People were selling literally shirts and jackets, uh, off their back for, for food money. Right. Uh, the whole system ripped out their heart and spirit. And you look around today and, and we see that we may not be in, in a, in a, a Soviet union. What, what the progressive is trying to do is to get us to some revised version of that, where, when we say we'll take care of you and that's a dangerous thing, because once you start leaning on something, it takes, it takes energy to counter back, to stand up straight and get your balance back. It becomes much more comfortable to just keep leaning until you atrophy. 

That's what people don't realize is when you let the government hand you money. I mean, I dunno if you're aware of this, but so many churches I hear about it all the time across from people reporting into us from around the, the nation, how many churches took in COVID money. Mm-hmm <affirmative> right. And what's really bizarre is that some of those churches took in millions of dollars and most of them didn't even recover or reopen as a church. I I, the day of reckoning for that's gonna be interesting, but what are you saying? Believe in God, but lean on the government. No, what I'm saying is that the government, me, Josiah, we're all gonna have to answer to God in the end. And I mentioned that AP interviewer today, the reason why she interviewed me today is she wanted to get my, uh, input on what is being called the danger of Christian nationalism. 

And I said, can you explain it to me? I, I, I knew about it. I knew the creator's definition of it, which I completely disagree with, but she had a hard time defining it because she wasn't sure about the definition of it. And it comes down to this. If you are a Christian, if you are white, and if you love America, you're a nationalist. And you're dangerous. I found that fascinating because in Germany, if you use the term nationalist, I don't like the word nationalist. Uh, it conjures up Adolf Hitler, it conjures up that type of picture. And I told her, she goes, does that upset you? And I said, not at all, because it tells me something. It tells me that there's enough good people that I think are starting to wake up. And it may be seen in these primary elections, that's starting to concern the radical of the left, uh, leaning group, the progressives that they're having to talk this narrative to shame us, to stay home. 

That if we're a Christian, we should be ashamed of being a Christian. If we love America, if we have a flag in our house, we should be ashamed of that. Mm-hmm <affirmative> and you should not get involved. You just stay home. And I told her, I said, listen, as long as I'm paying taxes, I'm gonna go vote. And Christians have the exact same voice that anybody else has. The sad thing is the Christian has surrendered their voice. No, one's no one has silenced the Christian and beat them down in this nation yet. Nope. They don't have to. The most Christians have become silent. So listen with our time remaining, tell people why people in this 49th district, which by the way, I need you to define it again. Sure. Somewhere from around what? The, the Laguna or Corona Delmar region, uh, San Clemente region of Southern California. 

Yeah. The, the 49th is south orange county, a part of north county, San Diego, all the way down to Delmar fairground. So Northern most would be Dana point and every city below that, all the way down through camp Pendleton currently 

Held by a 

Democrat currently held by, uh, Michael Lev Lev. 

How's that possible? 

Yeah. Well, how 

Come on. Listen, 

San Diego and orange county were red for years. 

Time. Yeah. I lived there. I grew up listen. So what's the deal. Listen, why aren't you a shoe in, because that's heavily military mm-hmm <affirmative>, it's heavily red, white and blue. Uh, why are, how, how did, how did what's his name? Levin. Yeah. How did he get into office in the first place? 

Well, I think there's, there's two parts to that one. We've we've already addressed significantly. That's the lack of people voting. The other part is that the establishment on the Republican side, I believe refuses to engage yes. In the 

Culture war. I'm 

Glad you just said that. And every aspect of the culture war, that's our morals, our families, uh, even issues like the second amendment, which they're timid in addressing, um, terrible. And, and that's such a failure because the left while convincing everyone else to be quiet. And if you disagree with them, you're somehow a hateful bigot. They have waged the culture war a hundred percent for years. Oh. And so just as we noted in studies that, uh, Jim, Jim Garlow highlights, there is a lack of equipping. There's a lack of knowledge. People don't know how to give an answer. And so they're, they're attacked by the world with, with a message and Christians don't know how to give an appropriate biblical response because they're not in the ward and they're not being taught by their pastors. Right. How to appropriately give an answer. How about we, we are burs that's right. And we study to show ourselves approved. And, and we, we, we look through everything carefully that that whole concept in church is gone for the most part. And we're paying the price for it culturally, because the left, unlike that, uh, you gotta give it to 'em, they're fully dedicated to their ideology. Well, 

It's their God, 

It's their God, it's their religion. It's their religion. Absolutely. And so you have this sort of sweeping sentiment where there's a timidity, there's a, there's a, there's a, I don't know how to give an answer. So I'm just gonna go along with it. But, but on array of hope to end, here's what I think. I think there'll be large turnouts of first time voters this year. I think that people were very upset with the tyrannical of COVID here in California. And the last two years, I think that now the generation, I just mentioned that previously has not been engaged. If you have young kids in school, you all of a sudden started paying attention. We were mad about decisions. All of a sudden now politics matters, right? Because it affects me personally, something people putting $200 of gas into their pickup. Trucks are mad all of a sudden. So I'm hoping that that encourages two. We have demographics that are pulling away like Latinos and Hispanics, the largest growing conservative demographic in the country. They're leaving by the thousands. 

And they are traditionally strong family. Absolutely moral people. 

Absolutely. So, so I think that this is, uh, you have to look at it in the long term strategy, uh, because the left does, we have to wake up and get engaged in the years going forward, right. Uh, election cycles will come and go that's right. But we have to get out there and, and show people, you don't have to acquiesce the left here. We, people are looking for leadership and inspiration and frankly, it shouldn't come from a politician. It should come from the pulpits. I agree. As we point people back. Yes. I mean, Isaiah said the government is upon his shoulders. Yes. So the Bible doesn't hide from the fact that the church is to be engaged in civic duty. We are government belongs to God, as you pointed out many times. So why are we not mimicking that? So, and, and hopefully this is catching on. I mean, I've seen some tremendous grassroot movements pop up, uh, in recent years. Um, but, uh, it's a hard fight and people need to realize that apathy's not gonna cut it. Um, you wouldn't believe, you know, whenever you would, the type of attacks and, you know, comments that we get for just daring to stand up for what you believe in. Um, there's a violent rhetoric against truth. And Christians have to be the light bearers of truth. If we don't preserve truth, no one else will. And that has to get into politics, 

Man. You know, think about it. What's the deal. I get nervous if time goes by and I have not been criticized or attacked for some truth. I said, 

That should be a cue. I 

Get nervous if I am not in trouble for having said something that is right. If I say something like, God requires us to preserve the life of the unborn, and I'm telling you it, when people get upset at that, I know I'm, I'm right over the target. I'm spot on. Listen with the time remaining. What can people do? And they don't have to be in the 49th to support you. 

No, no. Um, for all of your typical answers, obviously we need support. We need financial support. You, you have to have actual money to run a campaign, especially in Southern California, there needs to be actions behind the words. So we do need donations and support. And if you, if you agree with what we're saying and you like this, get behind your candidate, amen. Don't, don't go for, for, you know, endorsements necessarily. You find a candidate and, and I'm talking, you know, out wherever you live, wherever you are, you find a candidate that's standing up for America, first values and biblical principles and send that person your money, not the party. One, two, um, share, share the information because all the money that we raise in campaigns is primarily for getting your name and your face out there. So people know who you are. That's right. So you can cheat the system by using these platforms. Mm-hmm, <affirmative> like social media and online stuff. You're talking to people share it, share it thousands of times, get the word out there. You know, if you like something, then, then tell people about it, go back to that community root perspective, which is your friends and your family. We want them engaged and encourage people to talk about the two things the left doesn't want us to talk about religion and politics. That's right. It's the two things we should be talking about the most. 

It's the two things we deal with every day of our lives, literally every day. Yep. And the enemy would say, don't talk about 

It. And, and I would like to say before, yeah, I'm not going anywhere, uh, win or lose this primary right now. These are issues that, that need attention. And I believe the Lord is raising people up. Yes. To be a voice and to get engaged and to fight back. And unless someone does then really, we have no right to complain. Yep. So, um, I, I know that, um, you know, elections come and go and some people may be disappointed if you don't win or you lose. I, you know what? It doesn't matter because when the Lord calls us to get engaged and do something, his plans are higher than ours. So we don't, <laugh>, we're, we're gonna take the fight to, to this state here in California. And, uh, we're gonna disturb the peace. Yeah. Cause, uh, we're not done. We're just getting started. We're 

We're called to obey him. And uh, I'd like to sweeten the pot this way, for those who are outside the 49th district, why should they throw love your way is because if you're elected to the United States Congress, then that's one less stronghold taken from the Democrat party, which is crashing our nation as I speak. Absolutely. Can you imagine that your election Josiah could de throne Nancy Pelosi, there could be a shift and she loses her place of power. That's why people who are in and out of the 49th should help you win 

A hundred percent, 

A hundred percent. 

Each congressional seat is a vote. 

Each congressional seat is a vote. Absolutely. Yeah. So what do, uh, what do people do if they want to help you out? 

Well, if you wanna learn more about, um, who I am as a candidate, you can go to the website, which is O'Neill for, O'Neill for And I also encourage if you're on the socials platforms, cuz that's a, just such an easy way to share information all the time, all the time. So Instagram O'Neil for Congress, Facebook O'Neal for Congress. I'm on truth, social as well. We have interviews on rumble. We have a YouTube channel. I mean, at this point, I think it's during the campaign, we put enough out there. If you just Google Josiah O'Neil you'll, you'll see our thing somehow, but all of that content is free and it's shareable that's right. So find, you know, events that we've done. We did a great event here, faith and action, which yep. That was a blast. Understanding was shared astronomically across the country. Huge, 


Viewership. Um, share it. And there's more of that to come. Yeah. Because the more that I've learned as a first time candidate, I've learned a tremendous amount peeking behind that curtain. And uh, I'm about to blow it all up because we, we, um, people need to know what's really happening in their political process and uh, we're, we're gonna take it public 

Man. And I, and I love you for it. And it, it is, you said something in closing that is so true. We are to show up as believers we're to be good stewards over the opportunities that God has given us we're to obey him. And um, and we leave the outcome to him. But um, yeah. 

I wanna read something just in closing, cuz I just want people to realize how far we've come. Right? The Supreme court made a decision Supreme court, the angle 1962 to remove prayer from public schools. 


But I want people to hear what the New York school board's prayer was. This is what kids said every morning in class, the short 

New York 

In New York public schools. This was the prayer that was so offensive. They had to rip it out and away from our children. This is what it said, almighty God, we acknowledge our dependence upon the, and we beg th blessing upon us, our parents, our teachers and our country. 


Imagine if that's the messaging in public schools yep. Versus what we have now, the moral depravity. Yep. The, the, the insanity, the mental illness. We encourage, we are destroying our children 

Since the eviction of God via the removal of that. The data is nothing but disastrous. Absolutely. There's absolutely no good. That has come outta the removal of that. No. Good. It's all bad. 

And we've pointed out. You don't have to be a Christian to benefit from. God's love. When, when a nation is blessed, the rain falls on everybody. You know, the founders knew this. This is why we established freedom of religion. They acknowledged yes, you should be able to do as you please. But there's a big difference between tolerance and condoning tolerance and endorsement. It's it's, it's, it's impossible to separate the idea that our founders said based on the Bible, the Christian Bible that's right. We will build this nation. They 


It. They said it so many times. 

Adam said that if the Bible were to be picked up by any nation on earth and apply it, it would become a great nation. And they were so secure in their Christianity and the few deest that were there, they were so secure in their belief. That number one, all of them, all 56, agreed to assemble for prayer. All of them gathered at Benjamin Franklin's initial request, mind you and the fact that they acknowledged God, they made the first amendment, the first amendment and the second, the second for a big reason, they considered those two amendments in accordance with natural law. Absolutely. That man will speak his mind. You can't make a law to shut him up. And the second amendment is, man will always protect himself when pushed 


Right. And that's a fact, they recognize that. And here's, what's brilliant is that they established what is referred to as a secular nation, meaning that we are not a Baptist nation. We're not a, we're not a Catholic nation. Our founding fathers were so secure in their relationship with God that they created a government and rights that even if you were an atheist, you had the exact same rights as the congregationalist or the end of Baptist. That's right. Or the Presbyterian it's genius. It never happened before in the history of man and people wanna beat up our founding fathers and or say that they were not believers. The greatness of this nation was they were so secure in their faith that they invented a great nation. Knowing not everybody's gonna be a believer. We're, we're cool with that. But we wanna make sure that every believer and nonbeliever has the exact same rights that came from heaven. Think about that thinking is absolutely spectacular. 

Absolutely. That's why there's a, there was a tree in the garden of Eden, right? <laugh> yeah. You put choice there in the very beginning choice. Uh it's it's it's absolutely correct. And I, I, I hope and think that more and people more and more people are waking up to the fact, just, just that point alone to, to, and to those who may listen, who are not Christians or don't care to, or have never been to church. I hope that they're realizing that a Christian Juda America is better than a Marxist totalitarian regime and, and that the two are inseparable can, are, are we so arrogant to think that we know better than those in the past, who have already learned this? 

Apparently we do. Right? Think we are. Some 

People do. 

So I don't know if people know this either, but a vacancy is always filled. A vacuum is always 


Replaced, right? So let's give them what they want hypothetically. And I know we're going over time here now, but hypothetically, everybody who thinks we're the big mean bad white guys in this world and we oughta go away. So, okay, we'll go away. Let's just all leave. So the Judeo Christian worldview people up and leave, what are you gonna replace it with? What's gonna fill the void. I'll tell you what's gonna fill the void. It's what filled the void in many countries in the world where Christianity that's right, was either, uh, driven away or conquered. And that's Islam think about it. Islam is right now replacing Christianity in Europe, the great churches and cathedrals of yester years, Christianity in Europe, many of them are mosque now. And there is no Juda, Christian jurisprudence in Islam. There is no Juda, Christian freedom and rights in Islam. Like they are president in Christ in, in Christianity. So be careful the very thing that you curse and, and hate it's probably because you don't understand it, stand it, but we're not even asking you to be a believer, like you said, it's choice. 

Yep. Absolutely. 

But the world knows. It's funny people outside. Look, you grew up in a foreign country. You knew. Yeah. Growing up that America was the best hope on the planet and we're that's right. We're close to losing all that. I, I hope that that's not the case. Look, I'm old and I'm gonna see Jesus soon, but I got grandkids, man. Yeah. And I'm fighting for it's right. Cuz I got I've got grandkids. 

Oh, that's a good point. Because what, what I think the final straw though, there were many things that led me to run for Congress. The final straw was looking at my children. Absolutely. And what's happening in the world and saying, this is where we draw the line. I, I do wanna mention something real close here. I know we're finishing, there was a man named Polycarp 

Mm-hmm <affirmative> 

Um, and I think more Christians need to be acquainted with him. Right? Here's a guy who historians working out the chronology estimate that he was probably in the church in Smyrna, uh, around the time when revelation addresses that letter to Smyrna, that Polycarp probably heard that message being read. Yeah. And where they said many of you will be imprisoned or you'll be persecuted for your faith. I don't know if Polycarp thought about that at the time, but skip forward to 1 52 ad and Christians are being forced to make sacrifices to Caesar the Roman emperor upon pain of death or imprisonment. That's right. Polycarp. According to, you know, church history is now the Bishop of the church of Smyrna. He's the pastor, the overseer. And he refuses that's right. And he goes into hiding. That's how much he believed in what we're talking about. Right. He goes into hiding, but the Romans find him. They bring him out. He's 86 years old. I love this. And they bring him before the tribunal. Fox's 

Book of martyrs has this. 

Yes. Yes. And if you haven't read foxes, got it. At least have a copy in your house. They bring him before the tribunal. That's right. And they beg him to consider his age and let it go. Renounce revital 

Christ, old man, come on old man. Just 

Denounce. Just let it go. And, and they threatened him with animals. Right. And he said, I bid them, come bring the animals then. And, and, and the emperor was so mad that they, they said, we're gonna burn you to death. Right. And Polycarp said, you don't need to tie me up cuz I'm gonna stand right there. I'm I'm not running. And um, of course, if you don't know, the end of the story Polycarp was killed. Yep. He's martyred actually the flames because the wind was blowing are blowing the flames away from him and it was taking him more time to die. Right. And a Roman soldier actually stepped forward and ran him through with his sword. Yep. Now I'm listening to that. I listened to a teaching the other day where, where, where they're talking about Polycarp and I'm comparing that to a church who closed their doors because some guy named Newsome told him they couldn't worship anymore. Right. And what, what a shame I felt. Yeah. For the condition of the church where we have a free society still as of now and the ability to stand up and fight back and stand for truth. And we have guys like Polycarp who literally went to their death and were burned alive right. 

In, in refusal to deny Christ right? Come on California. Right? 

Because the pulpits have allowed us to become, not Smyrna. The pulpits have allowed us become Leo to see. Yeah, we are related to seeing Josiah O'Neil California's 49th district. Uh, you gotta win. We love you. You're what's right for California. You're what's, you're what's right for this nation. And I wanna thank you for your years. Nearly 20 years now, 20 years of service to our liberties and freedoms here in this country, I consider, uh, it an honor to know you. I love you. You already know all this. So come bless you. 

Thanks for having me appreciate it. 

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