The 1916 Project

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00:52 - Speaker 2
Well, everybody, we have, as I normally say, we have a very special podcast, and probably now together more than ever. It's true, there is what a documentary film, can I say, that that's coming out. There is what a documentary film, can I say that that's coming out, and maybe by the time you see this you'll know more about it. But it's called the 1916 Project and it's going to blow your mind. And so right now we're going to sit down with Seth Gruber, who, if you know me, you know Seth, but we have the joy of meeting a great friend of his and a great contributor to this film, by the way I've seen it, and that's Dr George Grant. So it's great to meet you and it's great to have you, brother, with us again. So good to be here, good to have you here, thank you, thank you. So we're going to dive in. We've got some time together. The 1916. Yep, I think I can figure it out, but I want them to hear it from you, seth. Where did that title come from?

01:45 - Speaker 3
Why that year? Yeah, and let's dive into this.

01:48 - Speaker 2
Yeah, what's?

01:49 - Speaker 3
going on. So you're one of the only ones, pastor Jack, to have said it right 1916, people, they 1619, I mean 1916. And that was intentional, of course. And I was with my team in Escondido and we were planning the year out of content and I was explaining this idea of the high priests of humanism Basically the weird, kooky, sexual revolutionary, marxist, diddle the kids and kill the babies and redefine marriage. People from the early 20th century that really architected the culture of death that's unfolding before our eyes so rapidly and freaking out so many parents of the country we're handing to our children.

02:24
And I was trying to explain this concept and my chief of staff said you sound like you're explaining the 1619 Project, like if you want to understand the insanity of today, you've got to go all the way back to 1619. He's like but it's like the 1619 Project as it should have been, it's like the right way of going back, looking at history and understanding our times today. Yeah, yeah. And so I paused in front of my whole content team. I said guys, margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood and maybe one of the most successful leftist Marxist revolutionaries of the 20th century, opened her first clinic for what would turn into Planned Parenthood in 1916. So that's where that tension came from. But you'll remember the 1619 Project right.

03:04
So there's actually an interesting. It wasn't just a play on numbers. There's actually a direct bridge from the disciples of the 1619 Project that led to the canceling of Margaret Sanger by Planned Parenthood, and I want Dr Grant to actually interrupt me at any point because he can tell the story better. But August 2019, New York Times, the 1619 Project you guys have heard of this. It's now on Hulu Of course it's a Hulu special thing, and it was by Nicole Hannah Jones, a purple-haired Marxist and I don't say that to be demeaning, I'm like no, she actually has purple hair.

03:38 - Speaker 2
Yeah, and she's actually a Marxist, actually a.

03:40 - Speaker 3
Marxist. She was discipled by Angela Davis who was one of those very old surviving members of the second generation of Frankfurt School educated Marxists. Well, angela Davis was mentored by Herbert Marcuse, one of the fathers of the free love movement in California, who once said Of course, the way back into the garden is to take another bite of the fruit of the tree, of the knowledge you get in evil Because we didn't learn from the first time around.

04:03 - Speaker 4
Yeah, the first time didn't go so well, so let's Good grief. Yeah, so that was Herbert Marcuse, but that's Marxism, isn't it? Yeah, it's never worked well, so let's keep doing it. That's the definition of insanity.

04:15 - Speaker 2
But that's how they keep control right. It is insane. It's insane to the normal thinking person, but they that they're actually employing some sort of control, yeah, yeah, yeah, so you get one of these kooky California free love sexual revolutionaries who actually mentored Angela Davis.

04:29 - Speaker 3
Angela Davis became the mentors of Nicole Hannah-Jones of the 1619 Project and the co-founders of BLM Incorporated. Yeah, black Lives Matter Incorporated. Alicia Garza and Patrice Cullors were mentored by Angela Davis, who is a Marxist. I remember look.

04:41 - Speaker 2
I'm old enough to remember hearing and seeing news reports of Angela Davis on the news here in California. My sister went through all of that the hippie era, dropping acid, timothy Leary, crazy world and the Black Panther movement and all of that anti-American stuff.

04:59 - Speaker 4
She ran for president in 1968 and in 1972 on the Communist Party ticket.

05:05 - Speaker 2
My question is this is kind of off script a little bit, but shouldn't somebody be running on the Communist Party ticket? If I learn more about her, as I have been, is a woman by the name of Kamala Harris.

05:15 - Speaker 4
Actually, she too is a disciple of the Frankfurt School this Angela Davis.

05:22 - Speaker 2
You know I can't quote it because I'm not, I can't figure that out exactly. But you know, her statement about yesterday is today, tomorrow was and that thing.

05:29 - Speaker 4
Yeah, yeah, you know that's a Karl Marx Unburdened by it's actually.

05:34 - Speaker 2
People think that's her flubbing up. She's quoting Karl Marx, yeah.

05:37 - Speaker 4
It is a Marxist incantation, yes, a declaration, that we're gonna leave history behind. That's right.

05:44
We're gonna create a new world Unburdened we're gonna be unburdened by the past and create this whole new world order, the, the phrase Originated with Albert Pike, who was one of the fathers of American Freemasonry, wow, and it was adopted by the revolutionaries as a declaration of what cultural Marxism would accomplish. Because Marxism has never been about economics despite the gobbledygook of three volumes of Das Kapital by Karl Marx, almost indecipherable it's always been about transforming the culture, getting rid of Christendom, as Friedrich Nietzsche.

06:34 - Speaker 2
Moving the ancient marks, as the scripture warned about we're supposed to be talking about the 1960s but it's all connected.

06:44 - Speaker 4
It's something Seth says all the time. It's all connected and that's why we can say this is a spiritual battle. It's not a political battle, it's a spiritual battle, not a cultural battle. It's a spiritual battle, not an economic battle, because it's all connected. We're able to declare the hope of the gospel in the midst of all of it. Wow, amen.

07:07 - Speaker 3
Amen. So building on that, so Nicole, hannah Jones says America is racist, root and branch systemic. That's why LeBron James says when black men leave their home, they're being hunted. That's a LeBron James quote, because everything's racist. It's like the Lego movie Everything is racist. And so therefore, if you wanna understand why everything's racist and why we should defund the police because if something is started in bigotry, if the root and the seed is racist, there's actually no redeeming it right. It has to actually be torn down.

07:40
So defund the police's burned down, police stations burned down courthouses, right. And so this is about nine months before George Floyd. This is when the 1619 project comes out. It becomes K through 12 curriculum and a lot of America's public schools sick now a Hulu special, but. But what was interesting is beyond, giving the very Miserable liberals and Martha's Vineyard something to talk about a cocktail parties. This becomes the sort of intellectual seed to the BLM and George Floyd and systemic racism, and so they start calling for canceling anything that's racist. Remember Aunt Jemima, remember the syrup lady.

08:18 - Speaker 2
Gotta cancel the syrup lady. We've talked about this. I told the pastors, I told the staff how I grew up thinking that Uncle Ben had invented rice. I had Uncle Ben elevated so high. I grew up in a home with a Polynesian background so there was a lot of rice every day. I thought, uncle Ben, rice was invented by a black guy. And then he's gone, he's canceled.

08:43 - Speaker 4
And then Aunt Jemima.

08:45 - Speaker 2
I thought Aunt Jemima, as a kid growing up, invented syrup. Now she's gone.

08:48 - Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah.

08:49 - Speaker 2
And then they took the Indian out of the Lando Lakes right. Think of that logo the Indian's gone. Notice that everything that this rhetoric has created actually wound up in the end ripping the black people off and the Indians ripping them off, because now people are going to grow up not knowing who Uncle Ben was and who Aunt Jemima was.

09:12 - Speaker 4
Unburdened by the past Unburdened by the past. We've had the perfect illustration of this with the reenactment of the 1793 Festival of Reason. We all saw it and were appalled by it. We've focused on one tableau, the remaking of the Lord's Last Supper, but the whole opening ceremony was a reenactment of the 1793 Festival of Reason, which took place in what became the Temple of Reason, formerly Notre Dame Cathedral, where all of those scenes that we saw broadcast by Peacock and NBC were actually taking place inside Notre Dame.

10:03 - Speaker 2
I didn't know that.

10:04 - Speaker 4
Including a wax figure of Marie Antoinette beheaded, which was also a part of the Olympic opening ceremony, including a golden calf with transvestites worshiping in front of it, which we also had in the Olympic opening ceremony. All of that is the call to be unburdened by the past to reinvent everything for the future. It's revolution, uncorked.

10:35 - Speaker 3
But, dr Grant, what happens? What's the next chapter in this story? Eventually, the revolution always eats.

10:42 - Speaker 4
Well, what happened immediately after the Festival of Reason was the reign of terror. And Robespierre, the prophet of virtue, brings the guillotine into the center of Paris, and thousands of people all around France, marseille, toulouse and Paris met their fate.

11:05 - Speaker 3
That's what revolution does, and so that's the connecting point. That's so hilarious In the summer of 2020, because the revolution always eats its own after decades of Christians and conservatives and pro-lifers saying Margaret Sanger was a racist, margaret Sanger was a eugenicist, she was a really horrible person. And the liberal establishment.

11:23 - Speaker 4
I was denigrated in 1988 when I published Grand Illusions and said all of those things Denigrated Planned Parenthood. Sued me three times Because she's viewed as saintly to them In a Smithsonian institution. Her bust is there as one of the great heroes of women's health.

11:42 - Speaker 3
Pelosi got the Margaret Singer Award. They've honored you know, this is their patron saint of feminism.

11:47 - Speaker 2
Sorry, Dr Grant, but maybe our audience didn't capture or catch in your opening statement when you said the culture of death. Can you explain? I mean, we know, but let's not assume anything what is this culture of death? What is that?

12:03 - Speaker 3
Yeah well, this has been a long time coming and Dr Grant's more qualified to speak to this.

12:09 - Speaker 4
All those who hate God love death. That's right.

12:11 - Speaker 3
Proverbs, yeah, proverbs, yeah. And so there's an interesting nature to the culture of death. Let me give one example. Again, these are my two heroes, so he's more qualified to speak on the history of this stuff. But here's one example. Everyone knows that Planned Parenthood is the largest abortion provider in the world. What some people don't know is and I have the citation in my book the 1916 Project.

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I have all the receipts. This was a leaked memo that came out by Planned Parenthood last fall, so about 10 months ago, and Planned Parenthood said we are now the second largest provider in America of cross-sex hormones and puberty blockers. So those would be chemically castrating transgender drugs for America's gender confused youth. The largest abortion provider in the world doesn't stay in their lane. Okay for them it's all connected when when, when, when, when. Cecile Richards, the president of Planned Parenthood from 2020, 2019, stepped down.

13:04 - Speaker 4
Daughter of the former governor of Texas, Ann Richards oh my.

13:08 - Speaker 3
Do you know what she immediately did? She co-founded a group with Alicia Garza, the co-founder of Black Lives Matter, to fight quote unquote systemic racism and the white man. My point is these people in the abortion industrial complex. They're everywhere, their tentacles are everywhere because for them there's an underlying worldview, a pagan philosophy that provides sort of the synthetic glue that links the various iterations of the culture of deaths, whether it's transing the kids, sexualizing them, porn in the schools, obscenity, the killing of babies, opposing parental rights. Planned Parenthood is now sponsoring and hosting school board conferences around the country to help get pro-abortion school board people elected. And you go. Well, wait a second. But what does that have to do with abortion? What has to do with their sex ed curriculum?

13:51 - Speaker 4
So that's just the beginning of the answer. They're also funding libraries that will host Drag Queen Story Hour. Yes, what does Planned Parenthood have to do with Drag Queen Story Hour, for heaven's sake? So what is the culture of death, dr Graham, it's the culture of death. It is the culture of death.

14:08 - Speaker 2
Well, it's the proverbial blood in the water. They've taken a bite, they've tasted the blood. Why stay in their lane? They've enjoyed great success in this destruction of babies created in the image of God. Why stop there?

14:23 - Speaker 4
Let's branch out it. This has always been their strategy. It's always been their strategy Since before World War I, when Margaret Sanger was first radicalized, along with Edna, st Vincent, millay and Will and Ariel Durant and a host of others. In a Greenwich Village salon hosted by Mabel Dodge, they began to dream about John Reed, famous for his foray in the Russian Revolution. They dreamed of the day when the revolution would transform society. They weren't interested in politics. They wanted to see the whole structure of Christian civilization collapse. And so every mechanism, whether it was the IWW, the Wobblies, the radical labor movement, emma Goldman and the anarchist movement, they were all tied together for the single purpose of overthrowing Christian civilization.

15:22 - Speaker 3
Margaret Singer once said birth control appeals to the advanced radical because it is calculated to undermine the authority of the Christian churches. And, by the way, by birth control she didn't mean well, we just wanna help you plan your parenthood. When she said birth control, she said it means the cultivation and release of the better racial elements in our society and the gradual suppression, elimination and eventual extinction of defective stocks in human weeds that threaten the blossoming of the finest flowers of American civilization. So that's what Sanger meant when she used the term birth control. But here's that crazy connection with the 1619 project disciples starting to go after anything that they say hey, the seed of your company, the seed of your organization is racist. And so, for the first time, we saw the revolution start to eat its own in the abortion wars.

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And that summer, the disciples of the 1619 Project and BLM Incorporated said Margaret Sanger is a racist and a eugenicist. And for the first time probably in recorded history, a major corporate Planned Parenthood lackey, karen Seltzer, the director of Planned Parenthood of Greater New York, came out and said yes. She said we're done making excuses for our founder and the damage that she did to communities of color. And July 2020, they take her name off of their flagship mega Manhattan Planned Parenthood clinic. They cancel their founder and New York City removes the sign that was called the Margaret Sanger Square in that city. So the city cancels Sanger, planned Parenthood cancels Sanger and we're supposed to go about like nothing just happened. This is not a newsworthy event. There's nothing to talk about here.

16:51 - Speaker 4
But they have not changed their strategy, they haven't changed their philosophy, they haven't changed anything that Margaret Sanger put into place.

17:00 - Speaker 2
But what's sad is that's just like so many of the Christian community is. They might walk away thinking, oh, we got a victory, now we can go back to playing ping pong or whatever is going on.

17:12 - Speaker 3
Yep, so that's how we opened my book and film. The 1916 Project is with the left canceling their own, their patron saint of feminism. So what's the real story? Yeah, exactly what's the real history behind one of the heroes of the leftist liberal establishment of the 20th century, the founders of one of the largest 501c3s in human history, the largest abortion provider in the world the largest provider of porn sex in the world.

17:35 - Speaker 4
The most profitable nonprofit in the world.

17:42 - Speaker 2
You had mentioned how the revolution eats its own. What's funny is that when you start saying things like 1916 or 1619, is that there's some sort of a starting point. There's always there's got to be a starting point. But for us, as believers, I'd like to think of in a more militant way. By that I mean, why stop at 1619 or 1916? Go back, go back, go back, go all the way, go as far back as you can. I'm a big fan of going as far back as you can. Why stop at these particular numbers? If you want to go back, if you are the 1619 people or the 1916, if you keep going back beyond those dates, years, you're going to wind up eventually bumping into paganism. You're going to eventually come to altars and icons and worship. People don't want you to worship. What do you mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, worship.

18:39 - Speaker 4
Which is exactly what the Olympic opening ceremony demonstrated.

18:44 - Speaker 2
Yeah, I missed it. I didn't see all of that. You don't want to see it.

18:47 - Speaker 4
You don't want to see it.

18:49 - Speaker 3
You don't want to see it. It was bad.

18:50 - Speaker 4
But it was bad from start to finish, from the parade down the same.

18:53 - Speaker 2
Was it shocking for Europe or normal for Europe?

18:57 - Speaker 4
Well, it's really interesting. The French have flooded Twitter and Rx. They have flooded it saying this is not France, Although Emmanuel Macron, the president said this is France, but no, a lot of Europeans were appalled. That's good to hear, but the culture has gone a long way down the road, and so for a lot of people it was just oh, whatever, including a lot of big Eva preachers here in the United States, big evangelicalism.

19:36 - Speaker 3
Big evangelicalism. So, pastor Jack, dr Grant is one of the VIP guests in my film, the 1916 Project, something we share. He was an advisor. You're both in my film, the 1916 project, and he was an advisor. You were both in the film and he was an advisor on the book and the whole project. And Dr Grant to this day is the worldwide renowned expert not just on the history and biography of Margaret Sanger but the history of the entire Planned Parenthood revolution. He published a book in 1988 called Grand Illusions the Legacy of Planned Parenthood revolution. He published a book in 1988 called Grand Illusions the Legacy of Planned Parenthood.

20:07 - Speaker 4
Is it still in print? It's still available. I'm working on a revision of it Right on Fifth, so it'll be the fifth, fifth printing, fifth edition.

20:18 - Speaker 3
Oh, fifth edition.

20:19 - Speaker 4
I don't know how many printings.

20:21 - Speaker 3
Didn't you debate the president of Planned Parenthood in the 80s? I did. Can you tell the story I did.

20:24 - Speaker 4
Pamela Moraldo. Yeah, it was in the Ed Sullivan Theater where the Letterman show was and yeah, we had a debate there. It was a setup. I knew it was a setup. The whole audience was pro-abortion. Everybody you know on the set was pro-abortion the cameraman, the people that you know. I got basically a stool in a corner. She got a, you know a sweet yeah, yeah, but it was.

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It was really interesting. We, we had a typical debate where we traded percentage points and played ping pong back and forth, but I noticed that she kept getting more and more frustrated as the time went on. That's how you know. And I realized it was when I was nice to her. Yeah, she couldn't stand it and so I just decided to really pour it on. I'm from the South, so I started adding the southern accent and you know, we're just going on and on and she, finally she blew up. She said don't you realize? Over, it's over. The fat lady has sung. And I said Pamela, pamela.

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I kinda leaned over and did a little sideways Christian hug, three hats for the Trinity and I said it's not over when the fat lady sings yeah, that's right, it's over. When the Trump sounds yeah, cut to commercial yeah, that's right, it's over.

22:07 - Speaker 2
When the Trump sounds yeah, cut to commercial. Yeah, no, yeah, yeah, so true, the good good comeback. Yeah, yeah, right on. So do I? Can I? Am I allowed to say that I've seen the film?

22:16 - Speaker 4
Yeah, of course, of course, yeah, so it's. I've not even seen the final cut.

22:21 - Speaker 3
I've only seen a rough.

22:22 - Speaker 4
I'll see it tonight. You should see it, you're great, I'm going to see it tonight.

22:26 - Speaker 2
Truly, it's amazing. Look, as a spectator, I couldn't get away from it. I didn't want to, of course, but there was no way of getting away from it Once it starts, the way that it is written, how you execute it, the can I say chalkboards oh yeah, the way that you guys have used the chalkboards for the storyline and for the chronology is epic. So you had me, I couldn't leave. You gotta watch it, you gotta see it. And the way it explains so many mysteries became clear, so much I didn't know was made aware. You wanna?

23:03 - Speaker 3
know why, right, I'd like to know why. It's not a forgotten history, it's a hidden history.

23:09 - Speaker 2
It's not forgotten, it's hidden.

23:11 - Speaker 3
Yeah, so we'll talk about some things right now. But listen, if you're listening to this and you go, what? How do I not know that? It's not your fault. You've been lied to, it's been buried and happening now.

23:24 - Speaker 2
It's available, but it's very yes, in January and, pastor Jack, when I was with you and happening now right.

23:28 - Speaker 3
I, I did, we did a fun thing. I asked 2,000 people how many of you, by raise of hands, have ever heard of the Supreme Court decision Buck versus Bell? Yeah, three hands, three hands. And I think Calvary Chapel, chino Hills, is one of the most politically literate and knowledgeable Congregations in the country. So that just goes to show that this has been hidden from us.

23:47
And so I found this study recently called Eugenics in High School History, and someone did a study looking at the nine most commonly used history high school textbooks in American public schools to do a search on eugenics. Any mention of the American Eugenics Society, the American Eugenics Movement, the Supreme Court decision Buck versus Bell, by the way, if you're listening to this, that allowed the state to forcibly sterilize people, that the state considered a threat to the gene pool, that they didn't want to have kids, just so you know what that is. And any mention of Margaret Sanger was excluded. Now, if those things were mentioned, it was a passing reference and it had no teaching. These are the nine most commonly used history high school textbooks. So we're gonna talk about some stuff right now, about the 1916 Project, but I just want you to know there has been an agenda to hide this stuff, because it's so shocking and disturbing that they know Americans would probably start living differently, voting differently and praying differently.

24:36 - Speaker 4
In fact, it's not just buried with negligence or with the malfeasance of tucking things under the rug. They deliberately lie about things when Wikipedia weaponizes stories by changing categories, removing language, that, for instance, the Frankfurt School talked about cultural Marxism. Antonio Gramsci came up with a strategy of cultural Marxism. Antonio Gramsci came up with a strategy of cultural Marxism. Joseph Buttigieg, the father of Pete Buttigieg, is the translator of the prison diary of Antonio Gramsci. But if you type in cultural Marxism, wikipedia will let you know immediately that that is a right-wing conspiracy theory. It never happened, even though people like Marcuse and Gramsci used that exact language. They tell us no, that's a right-wing conspiracy.

25:41 - Speaker 3
And one of the most fascinating stories that proves what Dr Grant's saying is about a book written by Carol Quigley called Tragedy and Hope, and I want you to tell this story. This blew me away, Pastor Jack. I never heard this story before and I was homeschooled baby. Like I should have known this.

25:58
That just goes to show. If a homeschooler from Southern California with a mom who ran a pregnancy resource center didn't know this, Like how hidden has this been? Can you tell this story for the audience and Pastor Jack, because this blew me away so.

26:09 - Speaker 4
Carol Quigley was professor at Georgetown University, mentor to Bill Clinton. He wrote a book about the Anglo-American establishment, essentially what today is Davos and all of the other sort of you know Globalists yeah, the Aspen Institute, all of those guys. So he wrote this massive book, 575 page long history of the Anglo-American establishment entitled Tragedy and Hope. It was going to be this big blockbuster. It was published by Macmillan 1966.

26:52
The books come into the warehouse after being printed and all of a sudden they get impounded and about 5,000 hardback copies in the first printing of this massive hardback book suddenly are sent to the shredder. There was one guy working in the warehouse who said if they're shredding a brand new book that hadn't even come out yet, this is not a remainder, this is a book. He stole a box and he snuck it out and that resulted in a handful of copies being able to be distributed. But literally you have one. I do have one of the original copies. It's now actually in print, it's available in print. But essentially what Quigley did was he said there's a handful of people that conspire together to try and control all of world events. Now the good news for those of us who are believers we know that the truth is is that there are no allies in the devil's world. Yeah, that's right. House divided.

28:03 - Speaker 2
They all, as Tears for Fear says, they all want to devil's world.

28:05 - Speaker 4
Yeah, that's right. House divided, as Tears for Fear says. They all want to rule the world. Yeah, and so the result is that all of the conspiring will never, never achieve its aim, but it will create a lot of damage in the interim Sure. And so they tried to suppress this book, and it is a blockbuster book. Why did they tried to suppress this book, and it is a blockbuster?

28:27 - Speaker 2
book. Why did they want to suppress the?

28:29 - Speaker 4
book Because it had all of the receipts. It demonstrated that there was such a thing as a cobble of globalists the Soroses, etc. Who were attempting to radically remake the future unburdened by the past.

28:49 - Speaker 3
What did they call their strategy? This is fascinating.

28:54 - Speaker 4
They called their strategy well. The idea for the strategy came from the Frankfurt School and it's called the strategy of the robes. The idea was, if we can capture the robes of the judiciary, the robes of academia, the robes of science and the robes of the church, we can change the world.

29:19
It's true, it is true, but of course, the remarkable thing is that strategy is a stolen playbook, because that strategy is the strategy that was given to us by the Lord Jesus in the Great Commission, which is a recapitulation of the strategy that was given to Adam and Eve the glorious call to exercise stewardship over all the earth and push the boundaries of the glory of the garden further and further downstream, to the lands of Havilah, where the gold and the bedellum are good.

30:01 - Speaker 2
Isn't it amazing that all of these different flavors and all of these different colors and words verbiage everything flying every which way. It all comes back to the fact that Satan cannot create one thing. He pimps and prostitutes and warps everything that is original. Yep, he never comes along with something. I mean, look, he's a copycat and it's like a bad one at that, but he appeals to the flesh, he appeals to power, and people love that, and you know that the only target is going to be Christianity in the church.

30:43 - Speaker 4
I mean, when they do blasphemous things, they don't mock Muhammad, as you said last Sunday, we just talked about that.

30:49 - Speaker 2
Last Sunday we talked about that birthday we talked about that last Sunday.

30:52 - Speaker 4
They don't mock Buddha, they don't mock the I Ching. They always attack Christianity.

31:02 - Speaker 2
Isn't it amazing, though? For us as believers, it's. I mean, I don't want to sound like macabre about it, but it's actually exactly what Jesus said. They're going to hate you in this world. That's right, and we need to get over that hump of well. You know, if I'm a Christian, I need to be, you know, sweet and polite about everything to everybody, and I don't see that in scripture. I'm not saying go around and be rude, but there is the fruit of the spirit, and when it comes to this modern day definition of politeness or tolerance, we're the ones that are allowing evil to advance and we think, and we feel good about ourselves, that we are being nice. I call it pathological compassion that we are being nice.

31:43 - Speaker 3
I call it pathological compassion.

31:46 - Speaker 2
You know, in a biblical sense I don't mean this in some rioting manner, by any means, but with intellect and with reason we need to turn tables over.

31:59 - Speaker 3
We need to tear down the stronghold.

32:01 - Speaker 2
We need to point out the whitewashed sepulchers and we need to say you know what that is.

32:04 - Speaker 4
That's a whitewashed sepulchers.

32:05 - Speaker 2
Yes, we need to say you know what that is. Woe unto you. That's a whitewashed sepulcher. Woe unto you. Scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, yeah, Wow.

32:11 - Speaker 4
The seven woes of Matthew 23.

32:14 - Speaker 2
Yeah, and he's not riding a horse. Woe is a very colorful word that Jesus used yeah.

32:22 - Speaker 3
I'm just having a blast my two heroes right here. Sorry, we're talking about this remarkable. Okay, I wanna.

32:30 - Speaker 4
So how did churches get the 1916 Project? We're gonna see the 1916 Project here at. Calvary, capulcino Hills, yep yeah, any church in.

32:41 - Speaker 3
America can screen the film right now you go to the1916projectcom. But and it's also a book, it's called the 1916 Project, the Lying the Witch and the War we're In. Say that again slow the Lying, the Witch and the War. We're In that is awesome.

32:57 - Speaker 2
Hat tip to.

32:57 - Speaker 3
CS Lewis there. So, here's all the lies that have created our culture. Here's the witch who mainstreamed those lies better than anyone else in the last 115 years.

33:04 - Speaker 4
So do you have a copy of the book yet?

33:06 - Speaker 3
I have one for you tonight and you.

33:07 - Speaker 2
No, he doesn't give me things.

33:09 - Speaker 3
That's not true. I don't have a copy of it yet. You wanna hear a couple of the most shocking things that most American Christians have no idea about, about how we got to this moment in the culture.

33:17 - Speaker 2
Can you hold that thought for a second? So we're talking about this remarkable. Is it a docu-film? What is it?

33:24 - Speaker 3
75-minute full-length documentary and it should have been three hours because I wanted to put too much into it. So everything that didn't make it into the movie I put it into the book. So the book is actually not a clone. It goes way deeper. And for homeschool, christian educators, parents, I'm telling you this is probably the most unique, shocking, pro-life culture war book that's ever been written.

33:42
Is there a workbook with the book. Yeah, we're actually before the end of the year, pastor Jack. We're releasing a 90 minute version of everything that I couldn't fit into the film in a curriculum with Bible studies, school curriculum, study guides and a 90 minute educational multi-series program.

33:59 - Speaker 4
So that'll be a follow up and the whole, the whole chalkboard, the whole chalkboard.

34:03 - Speaker 1
Oh the whole chalkboard, the whole chalkboard set. Oh the chalkboard, we couldn't all fit into the.

34:06 - Speaker 2
It's all Glenn Beck stuff. We did the connecting area. The quality, I have to tell you. That's why I asked him to hold the thought. The quality of this work is amazing. The lighting, this set your locations where you go to the places we went to.

34:22 - Speaker 3
Munich, new York City yeah, it's, listen, this is no. And Nashville, nashville, raleigh, southern California, for you, yep.

34:30 - Speaker 2
Yeah, this is not some well-intended Christian attempt to tell a horrible story about. This is extremely well done. Hollywood's got nothing on this and there's hope in it too. There's hope, you know what? What I was surprised in somebody, because when somebody thinks about a pro-life type of film, they think of blood and guts involved in a bucket somewhere. There's none of that in this and I think that's very, very powerful for the argument to be taken and made in a palatable way where people they don't cringe or run out of the building with it.

35:09 - Speaker 3
This is so well done. I think it's important for people to see what abortion does to babies, but it tends to shut down people's willingness to hear, and there's a lot of that.

35:15 - Speaker 2
You didn't do that.

35:16 - Speaker 4
You yeah this film is beautiful.

35:18 - Speaker 2
It is, it is beautifully shot yeah.

35:21 - Speaker 4
It's incredibly well designed to evoke in us a remembrance of what makes Christendom so great and what the attack against Christendom results in.

35:36 - Speaker 2
I found myself, Dr George, saying nothing's changed. It's the high places I was so honored. It's a rim fan.

35:43 - Speaker 3
I was so honored by Allie Bestucky recently. She spoke right after me at a conference recently and she said do not watch this film unless you're prepared to cry and then get up and do something about the killing of babies. So what are we even lied to about what's been hidden from us? I wanna give you guys a couple Easter eggs, because I'm telling you the number one response I've gotten from my speaking for a long time is Seth, I've never heard any of this before.

36:12
Why have I never heard that before? And that's when I started realizing I think we need to do a film. I mean, how do we not know this? And I want to honor Dr Grant too, pastor Jack, because all of the history, all of it that I've learned almost exclusively I do read other books, but almost exclusively has come from his research in a book he wrote before I was born and it was the best-selling book in the pro-life category for years in America Grand Illusions, the Legacy of Planned Parenthood. But one of the most shocking things about this is the relationship between the American eugenicists, okay and the Third Reich.

36:48
Now it's not like Hitler wrote a fan mail letter to Margaret Sanger, but can I tell you, it's almost that bad. We don't have evidence that the two talked or anything like that, but it's almost that bad. And so when like Well, we do have evidence that she knew Dr Ernst Rudin.

37:04 - Speaker 4
Yes, we do have evidence that she knew Lothrop Stoddard. We do have evidence that she was well-connected and promoted.

37:12 - Speaker 2
Do we have evidence that her work was? I understood maybe I'm wrong that her work was impressive to those of the third right.

37:20 - Speaker 3
Well, the work that she was involved in in the American Eugenic Society.

37:23 - Speaker 2
The Eugenic Society, the.

37:24 - Speaker 3
Eugenic Society? Yeah, no, no, so she was. So some of her best friends, financiers, advisors, board members and guest writers for her magazine knew Hitler personally or worked in the Third Reich. I heard that it's that bad, oh my goodness. So there's this guy named Lothrop Stoddard. This is one of the most shocking aspects of the history of Planned Parenthood. If you Google this name, you probably if you're watching this, you probably never even heard the name Lothrop Stoddard. But if you Google first couple pages of Google I've done this it's hard to find anything that says oh, by the way, he was a founding board member of Planned Parenthood. The guy was a high official of the Massachusetts KKK. He was actually the grand wizard Of the Massachusetts KKK.

38:03 - Speaker 4
Yeah, yeah, a graduate from Harvard, an undergrad from Harvard, got his doctorate from Harvard. I mean, this is not a, and the truth is is that at that time, eugenics was an incredibly reputable sort of enterprise, with chairs of eugenics at Harvard, yale, stanford. What year is this? Well, it starts in the 20s. Really, eugenics? It stems from Francis Galton, who was a cousin of Charles Darwin.

38:42
Oh there you go, charles Darwin, what Galton wanted to do was he wanted to take what Darwin's ideas showed the scientific elite and then posit a sociological and demographic application of it. The idea is if the human race is evolving, let's engineer it to get rid of the bad genes. Let's play God.

39:10 - Speaker 3
Let's play God and create a race of thoroughbreds which, coincidentally, years later was the tagline and the mast of her magazine. In the birth control review it said to create a race of thoroughbreds.

39:23 - Speaker 4
That would be Planned Parenthood's magazine. Really, that's what Planned Parenthood's strategy was To create a race of thoroughbreds. That would be Planned Parenthood's magazine. That's what Planned Parenthood's strategy was To create a race of thoroughbreds. Can you imagine? Think about that If?

39:29 - Speaker 2
such a thing was said today, I would think people would go nuts over that horribly. I mean, how dare you?

39:35 - Speaker 4
So what that means is you've gotta get rid of the unwanted DNA in the human gene pool, which means that Slavs, blacks, Jews, Eastern Europeans, those were the ones that needed to be eliminated, so eugenics laws, which were passed in some 18 of the states of the United States and then upheld in the Supreme Court ruling that he mentioned. It meant that the state could literally come into a home and forcibly sterilize young women because they were the wrong people to reproduce In the United States of America.

40:22 - Speaker 2
In the United States of America, upheld by a 1927 Supreme Court decision called Buck versus Bell Guess.

40:26 - Speaker 3
Who celebrated that decision publicly when it was decided? Margaret Sanger. So this founding board, member of Planned Parenthood, pastor Jack Lothrop Stoddard, not only the grand wizard of the Massachusetts Ku Klux Klan, but he was so influential in the American eugenics movement and his books, a couple books that were quite shocking. One was called the Rising Tide of Color Against White World Supremacy and his other book was called. That was his best seller. There you go. His other book was called the Revolt Against Civilization, the Menace of the Underman. So like, yes, like Dennis, the Menace, like you're a menace, so Menace of the Underman. And you go okay, who's the under man? Well, the people defined, yeah, and so they're a menace because we're trying to create the ubermenschen, the super race, and so these under men, these maybe subhuman, they're harming the creation of this super human race.

41:15 - Speaker 4
So this is all Nietzschean philosophy being applied and somebody gets to determine who is superior Exactly.

41:21 - Speaker 2
It's always wonderful, isn't it? And, by the way, lothar.

41:23 - Speaker 3
Stoddard held that position as a board member of Planned Parenthood. He held that position for years, and so he was so well loved by the Nazis, pastor Jack, that his book started getting translated into German and it was featured in Nazi school textbooks, and I have one of these books.

41:39 - Speaker 4
The National Socialists actually funded the translation and the printing of this Sanger's board member and I recently I've showed this on a couple of podcast episodes.

41:51 - Speaker 3
We have a picture of it in the film. So if you guys go to the1916projectcom, pre-order the book and press host to screening at your church it comes out soon. You'll see a picture of this book. I found one copy available in the world and it's the German translated version of his book, the menace of the under man it's over $300 it shipped from Europe.

42:07
I got it recently because they're burying this stuff, so I want to build a library to make sure that we don't forget this stuff and guess how the Nazis translated the word under man, remember? His book is called the menace of the under man, untermensch, and so untermensch would be the title of Heinrich Himmler's famous Nazi propaganda books somehow I'm guess you just asked the question Somehow they've gotta throw a Jew, something in there, maybe Yehuda something, what maybe?

42:31
Well, so Untermenschen would later be translated into English subhuman, oh subhuman, to refer to all those that they deemed unfit to reproduce, and that, of course, gave rise to the final solution. Yeah, in fact they invited this founding board member of Planned Parenthood to the Third Reich in 1939. The Nazis invited Sanger's friend, funder and board member to the Third Reich.

42:58 - Speaker 2
So you mentioned this. You do a great job in this in the film and in the book I assume the book, and you said it's so much more than you do a great job in this in the film and in the book. I assume the book, and you said it's so much more than so. People need to get both. See both. It's interesting what you just said because, if I remember right, you talked about a culture of death. Where didn't Hitler give a panzer division to the Grand Mufti? Oh, yeah, yeah, which is Islam militant, to eradicate the Jews, another version of the culture of death.

43:27 - Speaker 4
Absolutely, absolutely Remarkable.

43:30 - Speaker 3
Yep, wow. So we've only scratched the surface. There's so much more you can learn. But one of Hitler's henchmen, very influential eugenics author, his name, was Hans F Gunther. Years later, hans F Gunther publicly wrote in a newspaper that he had referred to Lothrop Stoddard as one of the spiritual fathers Spiritual Of Nazi Germany. That's the phrase. I actually have, the. I had one of my board members, one of my donors. Go to the Stanford library, pull the boxes out, find the print of that German newspaper where one of Hitler's henchmen referred to Sanger's founding board member as one of the spiritual fathers of Nazi Germany. Have you heard that before Christian? Have you heard that the Nazis called the founding board member of Planned Parenthood a spiritual father of the Third Reich? We've only scratched the surface, obviously, but this is what we mean by the culture of the Nazis.

44:21 - Speaker 4
And have you ever heard that there was a grand wizard in Massachusetts of the KKK who had a doctorate from Harvard? And have you ever heard that that is directly tied to Planned Parenthood? And have you ever heard that all of this is still a part of the philosophy of Planned Parenthood?

44:42 - Speaker 3
Well, because that's a biblical concept Bad seed yields a bitter harvest, right Wow.

44:47 - Speaker 2
Yeah, what do you hope the book and the film achieves?

44:54 - Speaker 3
So yeah, we're getting like 10 to 15 screening requests every 24 hours. Churches. We actually we've done a screening in Australia, canada, ireland and and New Zealand and Now we're having hundreds of churches in America screen it's. It will come out later this year online for the world to see for free on different streaming platforms. But we're not just in the business of production and education. Without transformation and mobilization, a lot of that stuff is not useless, but it's not nearly as useful as it should be. So we're actually building a movement now with these screenings of the 1916 project.

45:28
All around the country, we're starting to launch White Rose resistance chapters. So we're actually launching in Southern California in August. We've launched in Boise, idaho. We're launching in Fort Worth, florida and Colorado, denver all before the end of the year, and we're going to be hiring regional coordinators and we're actually this is what Christian resistance looks like believers of all ages, culminating in something huge we're doing in June of 2025 called the Last Stand, and you can go to wwwthelaststandcom. We're taking back June. June is Life Month, not Legion Month. It's Life Month, not Pride Month. That's when Roe v Wade gets overturned. By the way, on the Nativity of St John the Baptist, june 24th, which is when Mary goes to visit Elizabeth and the two, prenatal John the Baptist and prenatal creator, start doing back flips in the uterus. So that's the day in the church calendar that Roe v Wade got overturned.

46:17 - Speaker 4
So all nature is but art unknown to me A fetus leaps in the presence of a zygote.

46:22 - Speaker 3
Yeah, that's the day that Roe v Wade got overturned, and so we're doing this huge event. You're going to be a part of it, we're going to have other people a part of it 10,000 people, repentance, worship, mobilization, and that will lead to, hopefully, another 100 new White Rose Resistance chapters around the country. So we're serious about this and we're calling it the last stand. For this reason, we're in a season of the last stand. I think we all sense that Now. Did German Christians, did Bonhoeffer, know in 1933 that they were in a season of the last stand? Maybe, maybe not, but it ended up being very clear that this was a last stand and thankfully, because of Western Allies, we won. But we're in a season of the Last Stand Now, whether it's 10 months, two years or 20, it's a season of the Last Stand you can feel it, or tonight.

47:10 - Speaker 4
Amen, let's go.

47:12 - Speaker 3
So that's what we're doing with the film in the book. So that's what we're doing with the film in the book and then we'll have another follow-up educational series that accompanies the film. But this film is incredibly unique. It took 12 months to do and, by the way, the spiritual warfare behind this film, my goodness. I travel and speak more than I travel to film, and on the very few occasions that we would travel Nashville, raleigh, north Carolina, new York City, munich, germany All hell broke loose at home and my family and kids would get super sick, but they wouldn't. When I'd go preach somewhere Only when I traveled to film.

47:43
Yeah, you're talking to two pastors, we know what you mean, but it was intense and I just wanna share one story. When we were at the graveside of Sophie Scholl in Munich, germany, oh, next to her brother Hans, the two gravesides of this brother sister, of this Christian resistance movement that my ministry is named after. A few hours after I was there, seven hours, eight hours ahead of where my wife and kids were, I get a FaceTime call from my wife in the back of an ambulance, our daughter, sophie Sunshine who's named after Sophie Scholl?

48:14
had just had a seizure.

48:15 - Speaker 2
Yeah, I remember this.

48:15 - Speaker 3
Sophie Scholl had just had a seizure. Yeah, I remember this and I had just been to Sophie Scholl's graveside yes and the, the demonic, the, the attacks and making this film. So I I feel very confident that this is what the Lord wanted made and that the enemy did not want this book and film made, and so yeah, you know, and people have the tendency to write off the the spiritual stuff, like what is?

48:34 - Speaker 2
what is Seth referring? The boogeyman stuff? You know, when you strip away everything, you look behind, as it were, the curtain to see the Wizard of Oz. There's always something behind there and the realms that we see are the physical realms and if you're unaware of the spiritual aspect of things, you'll be easily deceived. Realms, and if you're unaware of the spiritual aspect of things, you'll be easily deceived and you'll also be misguided in your passion to even fight things. You might go after people not knowing that there's actually spiritual powers behind these things. It's almost like there's this puppet show that's going on. People are being manipulated and without the discernment of the Holy Spirit promised to us as believers, you won't see that.

49:20
But I just want to thank you guys for this and I want, with the time remaining, I want you to sell. Well, I don't mean sell, but then I'm thinking maybe I do. I don't mean sell, but then I'm thinking maybe I do this video, this film, pitch it right now to churches, to pastors that might be watching this. I can do that for you, but I shouldn't have to do that for you. I want them to hear it from you, because every church, every church in America I cannot even imagine this may be a hard thing to say. I can't imagine a church in America not wanting to show this and call themselves a New Testament church. It's impossible. You've got to love life if you love God. Why should a pastor immediately get this booked or shown or seen himself? How about just?

50:14 - Speaker 3
himself seeing it. I will answer that, but I'd like to hear pastor Dr George Graham answer that first.

50:20 - Speaker 4
Well, we serve the Prince of Life, amen. He has opened for us the fountain of life. We were dead in our trespasses and sins by his sacrifice, through the double sacrifice, through the double imputation, where he takes our sin on him, he takes his righteousness and places it on us. We have new life in him. Therefore, the proclamation to the world of the gospel is the proclamation of new life. So the the whole.

50:54
Every time missionaries went out into the wider world, the first thing that they had to confront was the culture of death, whether it was satay whether it was some horrific burning of widows on the pyres of their deceased husbands, whether it was internecine warfare, always the missionaries had to confront that, because that is the leading edge of the devil's strategy.

51:21
The gladiatorial games, the gladiatorial games. So when we proclaim the gospel and separate it from the question of life and death, we cease to proclaim the gospel. Wow, perfect. Why should every church host this film? Because it connects the dots. It shows how perfectly this proclaims the good news of the gospel in this cultural moment when the church must arise. Lord, have mercy, church, have courage. Now is the time. Let's go. Let's go.

52:00 - Speaker 3
See why I like him. Yeah, hosea 4, 6, god told his people. He said my people are being being destroyed for lack of knowledge. It's not like you were destroyed, it's like you're actively being destroyed right now.

52:15
We are actively being destroyed right now in the American church because of lack of knowledge, and you know I used to do small little talks in Protestant Catholic high schools. I still love to do that when I have the time. I love speaking to young people. But I started transitioning in 2020, in no small part thanks to you trusting me with your pulpit and letting me share my heart, and the ministry started exploding and I felt really called to the church, because the church is the sleeping giant. Unless the church flatulent, becomes the church militant, it would become the church irrelevant, and I don't mean like picking up AR-15s, I mean militant and righteousness and whatever. And so this film, my entire ministry, has been to put myself out of a job.

52:53
The pro-life movement used to go by another name guys, christendom, oh my. We have way too many 501c3 organizations in America and it sounds weird because I'm the CEO of one, but like I don't want to be doing this, I turned 33 at the end of August. This is exhausting and I don't want to be tearing down another high place at 43. I want to be rebuilding Christendom with you and giving God a reason to show California and America mercy. That's not going to happen until the church decides that they care more about righteousness and pleasing their Savior than they do their 501c3 statuses and being invited to Davos with Rick Warren or whoever whatever other useful idiot Christian that the globalists say you're a good pawn as a Christian to sprinkle a little Christianese on our globalist agenda.

53:38
Why don't you come to Davos? There's a reason why they never invite you, isn't that interesting? And so we need the church to awaken. And it's the greatest adventure we're missing out. It's not even like, hey, let's go, let's go own the libs. No, no, no, no, no. You're just missing out on such a cool adventure. And do you remember last July when I called you and I said there's this Washington DC late-term, all-trimester murder mill abortion center called the DuPont?

54:03 - Speaker 2
Clinic.

54:04 - Speaker 3
One of the guys on staff. He's one of my best friends, aj Hurley. Him and his wife Lori exposed third trimester, probably illegal partial birth abortions that were happening at that DC DuPont all trimester murder mill. And they exposed abortion for how ugly it is to America. About three months before Roe got overturned, providentially Well, they were expanding to Beverly Hills. So I called you last summer and I said they're trying to open up in Beverly Hills. You let me put out the word 1200 people showed up. Pastor John Randall spoke, a bunch of people spoke, we worshiped, we repented. We shut down half the street a mile from Rodeo Drive. In the middle of the event and we tell this story in my book one of our event organizers that we were working with got a call from the lawyer representing the building owner saying that in the middle of our worship session the building owner had rescinded the lease to DuPont Murder Mill.

54:53
Third, Trimester abortions and they would not be opening in that building. So that was amazing. But here's the thing it's easy to go well. Abortion's legal, through all nine months of pregnancy, still in California, funded by the taxpayer, 12 years or older, no parental consent. Did you really win a victory? It was a small victory, but here's the important takeaway. I think, brother, what if the church in California had been that militant for righteousness for the last 70 years? That's right, we would have never gotten into this position.

55:18 - Speaker 4
Wars are one, the church is plan A. Yeah, there is no plan B. There is no plan B. Until we grasp that, live that and act upon that, we will see all of these horrors unfolding around us.

55:32 - Speaker 2
You may have already answered this, but let's end with this Speak to the Christian or the pastor that says we don't get involved in these political issues. Why not?

55:47 - Speaker 4
Yeah well, first of all, the world has been politicized. Everything is political at this point, and so you're not going to be able to escape the politicalization of everything. That's where modernity has gone. But this is not about politics. This is about the Word of God being applied to every single detail of life. The glory of Christendom is that the gospel was applied to art, music, literature, ideas, everywhere, everything. So all we're simply saying is Jesus is Lord. All we're saying is the earth is the Lord's and everything in it, the world and all who live in it, for he founded it upon the seas and he established it upon the waters.

56:34
The kingdoms of this world are the kingdoms of our God and of his Christ. Let's proclaim it, let's live like that's true and let's shout it from the rooftops.

56:44 - Speaker 3
So the 1916 project by the White Rose Resistance is just our attempt to make sure we are not destroyed for lack of knowledge. And so far I have not yet found a more powerful way, pastor Jack, of getting believers to go. Oh my gosh, what can I do? That's right Is exposing the demonic, integrated nature of the history of the sexual revolution, the neo-Marxist, neo-paganism revolution that is architected this current moment. Once you see that, you see how spiritual and demonic it is, you can't unsee or unhear it, and so go to just keep saying it.

57:18
The1916projectcom press host a screening. You can host this at your church. We ship you a box, you can pull it off and give you all the assets. You work with our team. You can host this right now. The book comes out September 4th. Share the trailer, yep, share the trailer and you'll become part of our launch party. So when we give you all the assets on the day that it releases, so we have this organic break, the social media stranglehold, organic posting, you can be a part of that and you can preorder the book. The hardcover this is cool. The hardcover, pastor Jack, which we're going to get you on. It comes with a foldout of the timeline of the chalkboard.

57:52 - Speaker 2
The chalkboard.

57:53 - Speaker 4
Of everything and how it all connects. Oh, I didn't know that. And then it folds up and it puts into a sleeve in the hardcover.

57:59 - Speaker 3
It's only the hardcover. You have to buy the hardcover. We couldn't do it with the paperback. So the 1916 Project, the Lying, the Witch and the War we're In, you can preorder on Amazon. But listen, they hate babies and Christians. So why don and give your money to a Christian pro-life ministry and not the baby killer, christian hating Marxists at Amazon. So that's where we're going with this film, culminating in the last stand in June, and if we don't awaken the church soon. Listen, we've read the end of the book. We win in the end, but that is not an excuse to abdicate in these evil days.

58:30 - Speaker 2
He said we read the end of the book, we win. I just question how many of those are included in the. We win Because in the book of Revelation, when it talks about all those who inherit hell, you know who's at the top. It's quite shocking Cowards Cowards, not manslayers or rapists or the cowards. I find that fascinating. The last thing you want to do is be a spectator to what is called Christianity. You would agree with us that there's so much wrong in the world that's because the church has been quiet and spectator for too long, and so if your Christianity is boring, it's because you're doing it wrong.

59:13
Amen, if you follow him, there's going to be a life of dynamic. Well, I want to see a miracle. Well, you know what you got. You need to get out there and give him the opportunity to do a miracle. If you're going to eat potato chips, stay at home. And you know, listen to the Bible. You know that's fine, just listen to the Bible without any intent to go do it. You're going to have a boring existence and you're going to wind up saying, like so many, do you know?

59:38
I tried Christianity for a while. It just didn't work for me. The fact of the matter is you didn't give yourself a chance to be used by the God of the Word, and the Word is God. And the great thing about this is we don't have to prop this up. This stands alone all by itself, amen. This stands alone all by itself, amen. We have to be careful how we handle it, because it's alive. We don't have to act like it's alive. We don't believe that it's alive. We know it's alive. And why do you think? Communist nations are terrified of this book?

01:00:07 - Speaker 1
and they won't let it in. I always find that fascinating.

01:00:10 - Speaker 2
China can't build a wall tall enough. God just steps right over. There's hope in Christ. So listen, I've loved being with these two guys. I think you've enjoyed this as well, and by all means go to the website.

01:00:22 - Speaker 3
The1916projectcom and post a screening at your church right now, before the end of the year, and pre-order the book. In fact, you get a bulk discount if you order lots, because part of the mission of the resistance is to spread this to the very ends of the earth. How we got here, how this was false religion and why we need pure and undefiled religion.

01:00:40 - Speaker 2
This is all part of doctrines and demons and deceiving spirits in the last days being taught you think it's just in the pulpit. It's everywhere where there's authority and it's everywhere where life is being determined. We live in that time. It's a thrilling time to be alive. Get involved. This's a thrilling time to be alive. Get involved. This is a great way to start and listen. As always, we believe that it's time for you to live out what you believe in. It's time for real life and we thank you for being a part of the Jack Hibbs podcast, and I want to thank both of you. I love you guys.

01:01:10 - Speaker 1
This is the first time we've met and we and we're knit at the heart now.

01:01:13 - Speaker 2
Seth, love you brother, god bless you. Thanks so much.

01:01:20 - Speaker 1
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