Transcript
00:00 - Speaker 1
Real Life presents the Jack Hibbs Podcast with intention and boldness to proclaim truth, equip the saints and impact our culture.
00:09 - Speaker 2
Hey you guys, you wanna get into some porn? Check some things out. Oh, and you know what? Include your kids, because apparently this is what is in public school. That's right, your public school in your sleepy little red, white and blue city, your town, your village, is being raped by these authors that you see collected on this table. It's time for you to find out what's happening in your town.
00:35 - Speaker 1
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01:04 - Speaker 2
Hey everybody, welcome back to our podcast, and we're going to be, by the way, making a pivot change. It's a media thing. I just want to warn you up front that our podcast is going to have to be changed in the near future to the Jack Hibbs Show podcast. There's a lot of reasons why, but don't worry, we'll still be the same podcast. Nothing changes optically with us, nor the content that we bring, although today we are picking up kind of where we left off a couple of years ago, and that is we're going to be talking about pornography today.
01:38
This is going to be a porn program. This is going to be a show about porn. This is going to be a porn talked about. We is going to be a porn talked about. We're going to show you some porn pictures. Why? How? Because we're going to be looking at curriculum and reading from libraries that are in your public school that your kid has access to. How's that? Were you getting a little concerned there for a minute? Well, you should be, because your kids have access to what our good friend, karen England is going to be revealing to us. And listen, we're going to be saying this over and over again and you're going to see it on your screen, but takebacktheclassroomcom. You're going to want to become very familiar with this website. Frankly, there's nothing like it that's out there right now, karen welcome back.
02:24
Well, thank you, I'm excited to be here, it's so good to have you, so I learned last time in our podcast to basically just be quiet and let you go.
02:35 - Speaker 3
Obviously, you've got stuff here that is available yes, I assume to our little kids in public schools, not just available, but often this stuff is assigned in freshman English class, which are 14-year-olds typically, and so it's again not just readily available, but it is also something that they're assigned and told to read. And the other thing that's really interesting with these books, you find out that kids, they find out what the salacious, perviant book is, and then it continues to get checked out. I was just in up in Oregon and one of the worst books in the whole country was currently checked out from a school district where they had just flipped it have 5-0 conservative school board and so now they're going to do something about it. But it was checked out. You know, I can look it up, I can see it's. Yeah, they've got it and it's checked out. So our kids are checking these books out.
03:33 - Speaker 2
These kids know right, Just like many parents right now. Let's be honest, don't fool yourself. There's stuff that you don't think your kid knows they know. There's stuff that your kid's viewing that you don't think they are they are. You might say, well, my kid doesn't have this, they don't have that. Oh, there's means, through the modern age of technology, where I think your kid can even get porn on a what's that? Device for music. Apple made it. You can, actually it can be corrupted to mess up with your kid. So they're getting this stuff right here. The karen is not. She's not showing you stuff that is extremely rare and odd. But what we're talking about is the invasion of your child's innocence through taxpayer dollars. Your money funds the purchasing of these books to keep these debased authors who are perverts getting into your kid's mind, and we're paying for it.
04:34 - Speaker 3
Well, let me just say, because this is interesting and you see these books everywhere and a lot of adults are reading them. I've ran into men reading them. They're at the airport, they're selling them to reading them. I've ran into men reading them, they're at the airport, they're selling them this book or this series, this author there is not a school district and we've looked at all 50, that does not have this author Red state, blue state. But let me tell you I don't know what librarians ordering this, because on their own description, I mean a lot of times they want to fake the descriptions.
05:02
Passionate, violent, sexy and daring Hits the spot for fans of dark, lush, sexy fantasy, Fast-paced and explosively action-packed. What is that doing with our 14-year-olds?
05:17 - Speaker 2
They want it, they want to read that. Yeah, that says let's go for that. Yeah, and it confirms. You know what I said a moment ago about this little sneak peek of this, or somebody shows them the other and then they read this. And you're right. I didn't realize, karen, you are so right. Every airport store I walk by has got these rotten books. Yes, so, okay, let's back up. So our viewers who might not remember two years ago? I can't believe it's been two years. Who's Karen? England? Why in the world would you get involved in this?
05:50 - Speaker 3
Well, yeah, I never knew when I became a Christian. I was 30 when I became a Christian and I never knew. I married someone that had been a missionary, and so my view of what a female could do becoming a Christian was pretty limited, and I certainly never thought it would be talking about sex and pornography. I really I remember saying to my husband I can't marry you. I don't think about Zimbabwe, I think about the crisis pregnancy center. I mean, I was like he was tearing up at an event and I was like, and it was like no, the Lord has known this and has called you to these things before you ever knew him.
06:25
So I've been in this realm for a long time and the sex ed issue is what got me first involved 25, 30 years ago and most recently during COVID. It became the library books and I will be the first to say I said this on your show before that I was a mom that poo-pooed the moms that were worried about the library books. I was like who cares? It's one or two books in the library, they're not even getting checked out. Who cares? I literally would say that and I judged them all of that.
06:58
I was very into the sex ed curriculum and the teacher presenting in front of the classroom until I saw what was going on. And then it just hit me like a stack of books and I've shared this that this next decade of my life God has called me to stop this sexualization of our kids. I don't know everything that it means, but right now it means right here with this stuff, because when I found out and I'll read from some of them this is in so many elementary schools. This is one of the most popular books we have been working for the last three years so I can find out every single school district that has this book. So we have capabilities. Now where we can find this? Wow, this, the Lovely Bones, is one of the most common assigned for ninth grade English, which is a 14 year old Slow down.
07:46 - Speaker 2
Ninth grade English Mm-hmm, this Mm-hmm, and Do you want me to read from it? Could you tell me something? Could you Right? Everybody, we need to hear this. Wait, can you handle this? Can you guys handle this?
07:58
Here's the problem. We need to stop being so self-righteous to think I can't hear that. I'm asking you to mom and dad, I'm asking you to put your big boy, big girl pants on right now and dive into the cesspool as a Christian, to rescue people who are drowning in this stuff. And here's my basis for it 2 Corinthians 10, verse six, says to be obedient to the Lord, jesus Christ. And when you are obedient to Christ, by your obedience, you will punish all disobedience. See, this disobedience. We are to punish this kind of stuff by knowing about it and acting up against it, by voting, by defunding this stuff, and it starts with knowledge. So just get off your little holy high horse, get down to where Jesus is walking around rescuing people, because this is what we need to hear from Karen, to mobilize us on how we can stop this in our schools all across the United States.
09:03 - Speaker 3
And I want to say I feel like all that I know and that I know we're purchasing these, I'm complicit if I don't speak up.
09:11
Now, everybody doesn't need to become me, but that's why I'm on your podcast to tell people what they can do and how to do it. So the lovely bones I'm just going to Again. Ninth grade Ninth grade assigned. First of all, this is in elementary schools too, and our website you can find out if it's in your elementary school. But this is also in elementary schools, but it's one of the most. There's about 10 books that are often assigned all over the country in ninth grade English, and so this is one of them. So I'm just going to read a few little sections.
09:45
Mr Harvey, I really want to go home. Take off your clothes. What? Take off your clothes, mr Harvey? Mr Harvey said I want to check that you're still a virgin. I am, mr Harvey. I said I want to make sure your parents will thank me. More dialogue goes on. Mr Harvey started to press his lips against mine they were blubbery and wet and I to scream, but I was too afraid and too exhausted from the fight. But he grew tired of hearing me plea. He reached on into the pocket of my parka, balled up the hat of my mother and made it smashing in. My mouth Goes on and it's graphic. She hears her mom screaming her for her for dinner. He said he kissed her wet lips, the face, the neck, goes on about the graphic rape scene and then he says he took the hat from my mouth. Tell me you love me, gently. I did.
10:33 - Speaker 2
Ninth grade yeah, throughout the United States.
10:37 - Speaker 3
So one thing that I really want people to know, because I hear all the well, so what? They have an iPhone and they're getting this porn everywhere. They are, but there are, sadly, but they aren't getting it down the hall at the library and they aren't getting it unexpectedly when your little friend shows you, hey, let's look at this, or whatever. I found this on YouTube. You know where you're going with it when you're being assigned something from a teacher in authority, an authority figure, an authority figure called the lovely bones or looking for Alaska a really common one, looking for Alaska. What's wrong with looking for Alaska?
11:13
So you're not thinking, oh, I'm going to start reading and be sexually assaulted with it. Wow, yes, oh, and she liked you. You thought she was quietly discussing pre-cal and then she was clearly talking about having hot sex with you, which is why you needed me. Um and again, don't let my um yellow sheets. There's more. These are just what I picked to read for Pastor Jack. Yeah, let's see here. French feel finger F-U-C-K. It's like you skipped third grade, alaska. Uh, let's see Laura and I went back to her room where she did exactly what Alaska told her to do, and I did exactly what Alaska said I would do, which was die a hundred little ecstatic deaths. My fists clenched, my body shaking. It was my first orgasm with a girl, and afterward I was embarrassed and nervous. Fists clenched, my body shaking. It was my first orgasm with a girl, and afterward I was embarrassed and nervous. What grade is this? Well, this is in middle schools and high schools, a few elementary schools assigned.
12:16 - Speaker 2
This is one of the most common assigned books and you're thinking oh, your kid's reading.
12:21 - Speaker 3
Looking for Alaska.
12:23 - Speaker 2
See, everybody thinks this is just in California. Come on right oh.
12:27 - Speaker 3
Pastor Jack, some of the—Florida is one of the worst states that has all of this porn.
12:35 - Speaker 2
And this is actually a great—.
12:36 - Speaker 3
Does DeSantis know about?
12:36
this Well, here's what it is. Well, I did do an Instagram about it because I was kind of—I was upset when he went out and he did the thing with Gavin Newsom and he came out with some books and he was like we don't have this. And I was like, yes, you do. You genderqueer all over. And here's what it is. So this is really good for everybody.
12:58
In every 50 states, library books are governed by something entirely different than education code, education standards or the Department of Education. The librarian orders, the library books, the librarians, are controlled by the American Library Association. In addition to that, to remove a library book, it's governed by a US Supreme Court case and that case is specific to the removal of library books. So and the librarians know this so they buy all of these books. They know that it's kind of difficult to get the books removed and then they lie to the public. I literally was in the hotel room working last night. We're working and I'm listening to the American Library Association. I've been working with a couple of places up in Oregon. So they brought in the American Library Association on their school board meeting and she just misrepresented the truth about no, you can't get rid of these books.
14:00
You know, just on and on and on. But the conservative school board member is an attorney and so he had great questions. So are you telling me Playboy? Because you know, and he just he tripped her up and soon we'll have that on our website, takebacktoclassroomcom, because I will be interrupting and showing. Ok, he's, he's mixing a freedom. Someone has to go into an adult, into an adult bookstore, and what goes on in schools. So the two things that people forget or don't understand that I had to learn was there's a thing called obscenity laws. A lot of people say well, just you. Obscenity laws came into place. Over 43 states went in and they exempted from the obscenity law public school libraries, universities and public libraries.
14:54 - Speaker 2
Deliberately.
14:54 - Speaker 3
Deliberately Engineered. Yes, yes, wow. And of course we went along with it. And so what I would? If I were to read this someone? I might be charged as a misdemeanor. If I was to read this to a neighbor kid or standing in a park, could you imagine that's a great point.
15:09 - Speaker 2
So, wow. So if you took this book about Alaska Not the state, not the state and so you went down the street to a little pack of kids that were playing in the driveway and you started reading this to them, you would get in big trouble. But if you go to the library at the schoolhouse, it's encouraged.
15:33 - Speaker 3
Yeah, they're exempt.
15:34 - Speaker 2
So yeah, depending on the state we're sick, we are a sick culture.
15:38 - Speaker 3
Yes, considered harmful to minors. So there's that. But then there is a case and it's oftenly referred to as PICO and it was a 5-4 US Supreme Court case specific to libraries, and several books were challenged. But what came out of it was the three things and this is what our little library lady was trying to skirt around last night. Three things it's up to the administration and school board to decide on library books what's removed and what isn't. You can remove anything that is educationally unsuitable. Yes, that's subjected. All of this would fit.
16:15 - Speaker 2
Wow. Who's going to decide that?
16:16 - Speaker 3
Educationally unsuitable or not, and pervasively vulgar, and you'll notice that when I read, I read from more than just one, so it's not a one-off. Itively vulgar and you'll notice that when I read, I read from more than just one, so it's not a one-off.
16:27 - Speaker 2
It's vulgarity throughout. It's a good thing that none of these are vulgar.
16:30 - Speaker 3
Yes, so pervasive vulgarity. You cannot remove a book because you don't agree with the ideology or a political viewpoint. So all of the books we've chosen to showcase are books that, without a doubt, meet pervasively vulgar and should be challenged and taken out of the schools. And the US Supreme Court they govern that. So all these blue states, like right now, connecticut and, oh, nevada I was in Nevada because they have a couple of bills they want you to think you can't remove them. So they come up with these laws that are anti-book banning is what they call them but they can't get around the US Supreme Court, the PICO case, because the PICO case they're not bigger or better than the US Supreme Court, and so you still can remove these under PICO. They want you to think you can't.
17:21
So everyone goes oh, this state, you can't do it. Yes, you can.
17:24 - Speaker 2
Who does that, by the way? Let's say, let's say somebody's watching right now from Clark County. Uh, whatever they live in, how do they get this started? They're watching this right now. They're saying I can't believe this. And now, while they're listening to the show, karen, they're, they're Googling and they're looking and they're going oh my gosh, she's telling the truth. What do they do about it? If somebody is being touched right now, uh, in their heart, about I'm, I'm catching fire, I am going to go get ahold of somebody, who do they get ahold of?
17:59 - Speaker 3
Well, first I'm going to have to take back the classroomcom. You need to go there and look up your school district.
18:01 - Speaker 2
But this is this is great and I'm very impressed that you knew Clark County, because everyone says isn't that Nevada?
18:04 - Speaker 3
Yeah, it is. It's Las Vegas and it's the fifth largest. It's the fifth largest school district in the country, but it is the only one in the state of Nevada that we don't have on our website yet because it's password protected and FOIAs or public records requests have been made to get the password and they've been pushing back with us, so we're trying to get into their database to look. We have lists from other ways, but hopefully soon it will be on our.
18:30 - Speaker 2
What are they hiding?
18:30 - Speaker 3
Yes, the whole state of Chicago has it. So we're still having to get around people trying to hide things from parents. But you go to our website, you have to say that you're 18, which I realize anyone can say that but then we have all 50 states, all of these books. We have every school district. So you look at the school district, you find your state, you go down. You look at the school district, you find your state, you go down.
18:56
You look at the school district, you find your school, you click on the school and then all the books come up and something like Looking for Alaska. It's going to come up, it's going to show. The first thing is going to show just one excerpt and then you can press on a button where you get a whole PDF of lots of excerpts button where you get a whole PDF of lots of excerpts. And the great thing is we have a challenge that was legally written so that you can download the challenge, fill it out with the book you want to challenge with the school it's in and submit it with all those excerpts and submit it to the school to challenge, and under PICO you're allowed to do that.
19:35 - Speaker 2
This is brilliant, and so is that a legal challenge, or that challenge Is that do you have that for each book or does one cover all the books? How does that work?
19:49 - Speaker 3
One covers almost all of them because it's pervasively vulgar and one of the things we did and we actually did it here in Chino. It's pervasively vulgar and one of the things we did and we actually did it here in Chino. We, after the podcast with Sonia Shah, we passed a policy that made it easier for the community to get involved in removing these books, eliminating this. The American Library Association likes a school to put together I call it a porn pusher committee. So a parent complains. They put together a committee in secret. They all say they read the book and then they come back and say it has literary value.
20:18 - Speaker 2
You can't trust them as far as you could throw them.
20:20 - Speaker 3
So we just eliminated that because if the school district, if the administrator, if it's challenged, your principal can decide if it's sexually explicit. If he thinks it isn't, he's going to have to go to the school board and the school board's going to have to agree with him out in the public.
20:36 - Speaker 2
Karen, you're assuming. Regarding the verse I quoted a moment ago about us being obedient to Jesus, we will, by nature, expose that which is disobedient and thereby punishing it. This is in 2 Corinthians, friends, not 2 Chronicles. 2 Corinthians 10, verse 6. Every pastor in America should have his church as a lighthouse, and the flames burning within that lighthouse is each congregant. When you hear these things in light of God's word, how can you not act? How can you at least not start making phone calls finding out more?
21:14 - Speaker 3
Well, the reason we built the website is so you can go see what's in your school district, because I know you don't believe me that these are there. I know I was that person that was like, oh, who cares? I was really judgmental about them. Can you pass me this one Well?
21:28 - Speaker 2
how can but see this from? I'm looking at it upside down. It looks like a coloring book to me. What could possibly be wrong?
21:35 - Speaker 3
with this book. Well, I'm from California, so the big bathhouse gave it away right away. But so what you're going to hear and what somebody? If you challenge it, they come back, not the school board.
21:59 - Speaker 2
I don't think the school board would, but our porn committee would come back and say well, this is relevant to Asian culture, to which I say it may be we aren't in asia, wait, that's their justification yes in the, in the spirit of multiculturalism and this isn't a lot of elementary schools, but what I would say is so does it? Does it start out normal?
22:12 - Speaker 3
um well, yeah, they're walking. I mean, I don't know how normal it is, so of course everybody.
22:17 - Speaker 2
Yeah, the whole family takes baths naked together.
22:19 - Speaker 3
Yeah, Well, then it's got sorry, I should have tagged this page because there's a couple where it's just full, full on pools of adults, some of which you can't really tell if it's a guy or a girl, and in the culture it's moms and grandmothers with with young girls. But what does that? What does a young kid that looks at this? That's a five-year-old this. This is why I call it grooming.
22:47 - Speaker 2
You are desensitizing exactly what this you are telling them that adults and children get naked.
22:53 - Speaker 3
And that's what you're doing. You're desensitizing them. You're grooming you don't? This doesn't look that adults and children get naked and that's what you're doing. You're desensitizing them, you're grooming. This doesn't look like necessarily a girl. What? You see, is a five-year-old I mean five-year-olds are busy picking their nose, sniffing glue or whatever. They're not thinking deeply about.
23:11 - Speaker 2
Asian culture. You know, Mom, what they do in Japan, yeah.
23:15 - Speaker 3
Mom, did you know, Did you know?
23:16 - Speaker 2
I know I'm six years old, but I know a lot about Japan.
23:19 - Speaker 3
This is what Japan's all about. Yeah, here's the picture book. Yeah Gosh. So again, they're so clever or cunning.
23:32 - Speaker 2
To be honest with you, if you and I know you guys do, when you think how sin and evil works, it doesn't start out.
23:41 - Speaker 3
It doesn't scream Playboy, it doesn't start out with this or Playboy.
23:43 - Speaker 2
Playboy is like the most exactly, and that's like obviously so simple. It starts out with making it very acceptable, even kind of, maybe cool and this is what other cultures know. I have a grip on the world and then it just starts talking about Alaska and this thing next, and about the other, and, like you said, desensitize until the cobra strikes. And you didn't even realize that that big snake even had any fangs. You were in fact put a bow around it, making it a pet.
24:17 - Speaker 3
Well, we're doing the sex traffickers, work for them. We are doing all of the grooming, all of the prepping, all of the desensitizing, making it normal, making it glamorous, starting in kindergarten being naked, and then you keep moving up. You're desensitized to the rape culture, to all these scenes about rape and child abuse, and I have to share, and I've met another one since then. But when we did the Come Back California tour, there was a young girl that came up after I spoke in intermission and told me how, through literature, she got addicted to porn and it had only been three weeks that she had realized it and that she was confronting her friends because they had gotten addicted to porn. I've since met two other young girls that have gotten addicted to porn through, and it's erotica, a lot of it's erotica, and they don't know until their brain hits it and just like with drugs the dopamine, the wanting more, but it's in a book but it's in a book, and it's in a book with an award and a book that you've been assigned, and so whatever's going on.
25:24
they're not understanding this, but their brain is taking it all in.
25:29 - Speaker 2
That's a kind of out of the place, graphically not normal. That's the point that there's a gold seal on this book. So what if you see a gold seal? Conclusion is it must be good. Wow, it must've won some awards. I don't look like an idiot, so I'm going to get the book. And again, the allurement. You know, it's amazing. You just brought something up. Being a pastor, I talk to every possible walk of life and I spoke out in front of the foyer, in front of the church, after a service, a woman I would say she's in her 30s she said that she was grateful for the Word of God, the power of God in this church and all of this stuff. And so she went on to say carefully. She went on to say that at a young age she started reading just erotic novels, or what do you want to call them. Then she graduated to uh, this series.
26:40 - Speaker 3
There's a famous series about uh, uh, like gray, ultimate gray, or oh no you're talking about the one about 50 shades of gray, shades of gray which is in our schools, is it?
26:52 - Speaker 2
yes, so she started reading, which caused her to go into pornography visual pornography. Not reading From Fifty Shades of Grey, she went into pornography and became addicted and again she's in her late 30s, I do believe late 30s, I do believe. And she said that she's been married, I think four or five times, and she's been the one every time that has ruined the marriage because she has not met a man who can satisfy her imaginary world. Think of the wake of destruction in her life, in her life and in those men's lives. This woman is ruined for life, but Jesus, jesus, has set her free. And wow, it all started with a book that had suggestive conversations in it.
27:57 - Speaker 3
And that's what I mean, pastor Jack. That's exactly why I stopped poo-pooing those women and became one. And it's everywhere. And when you start to look that, it starts in kindergarten and because I've had to dig deep for this website I see it all and there's so much anti-religious rhetoric in this stuff that you know there's lots of these same themes glorifying drugs, sure, lots of this stuff. So when you start reading or kind of being introduced in kindergarten, first grade, second grade, and then third, fourth, fifth, and it's a little edgier in first grade, second grade, and then third, fourth, fifth, and it's a little edgier, you know. And then you start moving up to where you're reading American Psycho, which is well, let me start with this one, because this was in Clark County in an elementary school and as I've been, as we've been building our website, I've been realizing that this book is everywhere. Now, look at this. Wouldn't you want to buy that for your child?
28:56 - Speaker 2
I want been realizing that this book is everywhere. Now look at this. Wouldn't you want to buy that for your child? I want to do that. The Art of Racing in the Rain that sounds like fun. This is a very popular book.
29:01 - Speaker 3
That sounds like the Formula One race. Well, look at that dog Mom.
29:05 - Speaker 2
I want a dog like that. I want that dog.
29:07 - Speaker 3
Page 17.
29:23 - Speaker 2
They fell onto the bed and he mounted her and she said the field is fertile, beware. And he said I embrace fertility. And he plowed the field until it grasped the sheets in its fists, arched its back and cried out with joy.
29:29 - Speaker 3
And was that from the dog or was that from the? What's with the dog on there? It is a story. It does have a dog in the story, but again, this is what they do they take sex and put it in everything? Totally. That's exactly what it is. And the desensitization Me, earl and the dying girl.
29:43 - Speaker 2
Yikes, this is junior high and high school.
29:46 - Speaker 3
I was reading this to Gina today in my preparations Are you going to eat her pussy?
29:52 - Speaker 2
No kidding, okay, wait, context Age group.
29:57 - Speaker 3
School? What Middle and high school. Very popular one all over.
30:01 - Speaker 2
Middle and high school, your kids, your school district, your city.
30:06 - Speaker 3
Check out takebacktheclassroomcom. It's everywhere. Big ass hard on for that shit. So you can't. So you can be a heterosexual or a homosexual and I feel like I understand that, like you're a woman in a man's body or some shit. But I am thinking about it. And how the F-U-C-K. Can somebody call themselves a bisexual? Sorry, I don't know why. On that word I say everything else. Public school folks, oh yeah. Oh. Look at some dude's funky dick. Got another heart on your kids. We're paying for that. And it's now a major motion picture. No, come on, get out of here. Wait, oh, that's another thing.
30:46 - Speaker 2
Now a major motion picture.
30:48 - Speaker 3
So here's the thing we hear that a lot. There's a book called Push that's made into. A lot of these books have been made into a major motion picture. A book called Push that's made into a lot of these books have been made into a major motion picture. However, what they don't tell you is to get that movie to be an R. They take the book and take stuff out of it to make it an R. Yeah, yeah, so the books are still X-rated and they are assigning them. That's another one that is often assigned in the freshman English class.
31:16 - Speaker 2
But listen, karen, I can hear people coming through the camera right there saying no way, not my kid, not in my conservative little town We've got red, white and royal blue flags down our main street with apple pie.
31:33 - Speaker 3
Okay, let me just tell you there was an article about Huntington Beach and we did a Come Back California there and they have done some great things in Huntington Beach.
31:40 - Speaker 2
Rated now, by the way, this week, the number one city in America to live, because it has now become the most conservative city. However, that doesn't mean that it's not in their classroom. Exactly, it doesn't mean that you know so what's?
31:59
oh, I'm gonna, I'm gonna pull it up on our website this is very clever of you, because I didn't know you're gonna do this. So so the article that was made available this week for national consumption right, consumption right Was um, where, where's the best place to live in in California? Uh, and, conservative, and and all the and no crime. And so it's Huntington beach, california, and so it's rated so highly. But let's, cause I don't know what she's going to say next highly, but let's, cause I don't know what she's going to say next, let's see what is in the top most conservative bastion of Orange County, california, huntington Beach. Let's, let's see.
32:45 - Speaker 3
And again, I'm just doing this to show it's everywhere and and I'll, we'll just pick, I'll go Edison high school library.
32:55 - Speaker 2
Edison High School, right near the beach.
32:57 - Speaker 3
You can go to a classic. They have every one of the courts of mist and furies.
33:02 - Speaker 2
So you guys, obviously you can't see her screen, it's just. It's just actually, in fact, there's this book, there's the green one, all this junk.
33:09 - Speaker 3
Yep, and it keeps going, edison.
33:11 - Speaker 2
High School in the bastion of a conservative stronghold, not only Huntington Beach, but the most desirable city in Orange County.
33:21 - Speaker 3
And there you go it's all and she's still scrolling folks. Yeah, I'm, I would. Wow, that's one high school.
33:29 - Speaker 2
This is one high school.
33:30 - Speaker 3
Oh, see me, earl and the Dying Girl right there. That's there Looking for.
33:34 - Speaker 2
Alaska Unbelievable. Yep, it's all there, so wait. So if somebody from Huntington Beach Red, white, royal blue If somebody from Huntington Beach in the area I'm going to ask you two questions. Okay, either you live in Huntington Beach, what can you do about it? Number two, you are the mayor of Huntington Beach or you're on the city council, and now they just heard this podcast. What can they do about it?
34:02 - Speaker 3
Under PICO. Again, it has to be done constitutionally because the US Supreme Court has weighed in on this and there are First Amendment issues, and so you have to do it carefully so they can challenge the book. Every school district has a policy and they usually call it reconsideration, and our website we explain all of this. Take back the classroomcom. You have to check what they call challenge the book.
34:26 - Speaker 2
So we've written a challenge that will work for every book and I'm happy to help so there could be a group that gets together either parents, concerned citizens or public officials who say we have reviewed our public school libraries in our city and we are challenging these books. I'm sorry, I don't know the term of this. Isn't there a person that is in an elected position, that is, over the libraries of a city?
34:54 - Speaker 3
The libraries of a city are different than the libraries of a city, the libraries of a city are different than the libraries of a school, and I'm talking about the books in the school. They actually have addressed it in Huntington Beach at the libraries and they're actually, I think, fighting it out in court in their county libraries.
35:07 - Speaker 2
Is there like a chief of the librarians?
35:10 - Speaker 3
Well, yes, but in the schools, your librarian at that high school picks these books.
35:15 - Speaker 2
That's the sovereign. Yeah, that's the one.
35:17 - Speaker 3
Yeah, and last night on this podcast the ALA was trying to tell that school district that whatever she says, go, and I was like, no, I'm not an attorney, but I play one at work and PICO is really, really clear that you can challenge them.
35:29 - Speaker 2
This is so valuable.
35:30 - Speaker 3
So any place can challenge them and it's a written process. They have a form we recommend. Some states make you fill out the form, so fill it out, but by no means stop there. No-transcript, absolutely. And I will say, since our podcast in Chino Unified, I worked with a group of parents and we challenged 27 books and got them removed.
36:09 - Speaker 2
Folks listen, wait, here's what she's saying. Two years ago or so we did a podcast together right here and she had such an overwhelming response by caring citizens and parents that in one example is the Chino Valley Unified School District. People cared enough and are used to telling us that the parents made it made. My mom was from Hawaii. She said don't give people the stink eye or somebody write the stink eye. You guys made a stink enough to where these books were removed.
36:47 - Speaker 3
Absolutely, and it just took going through the process and again, it was just citizens that filled out the form that they were supposed to fill out, challenged it. Yes, they might come back on one or two and say, oh, but we think it has literary value, okay, well then you're going to have to make that case before the school board and the whole public, why you think that has literary value, and the board, our elected officials, are going to decide if it's porn or not.
37:11 - Speaker 2
How are these purchased? How does a librarian buy it? Buy the book.
37:14 - Speaker 3
A lot of people think that the smut is donated and there are some, but really glisten.
37:21 - Speaker 2
Like the local pervert society.
37:23 - Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah, or freedom from religion or you know our favorite Freedom from religion.
37:27 - Speaker 2
Yeah, I had to throw that out there. Here we are. Yeah, they love us.
37:29 - Speaker 3
Yeah, after we got the policy passed, the first thing they did was file a challenge to get the Bible removed from the library.
37:35 - Speaker 2
Isn't that great. Well, if we can't have our born, you can't have your.
37:38 - Speaker 3
Bible, but they didn't follow the policy and so, plus, they didn't know where or if it was anywhere, and they didn't call me, I know what schools have, what books are in what school. So anyway, I just had to throw that out there to have fun with them because they're so obsessed with your school district.
37:56
So yeah, and so there's a little bit of a pushback, but ultimately all of this, depending on where you live it will eventually go to the board. If the administration wants to keep it, and that's where it should be, bring it out in the public.
38:08 - Speaker 2
We went and we read this stuff Put the light on it.
38:10 - Speaker 3
Yeah, and if the school board wants to keep it, then keep it. And I will tell you that I was just up in Oregon where they took over. It's like the most conservative place now in all of Oregon and they flipped city council.
38:24 - Speaker 2
Can I ask you where?
38:25 - Speaker 3
that is yeah, it was Grants Pass. Oh my gosh. And they all are big Pastor Jack fans and had seen our podcast, so they had me come up to speak to them. Oh, karen, that's wonderful. Oh, I'll be back, because that was the one I was watching last night. They flipped one school board. They're about to flip the other one in May, and they brought the books to the superintendent, and so the superintendent brought in the American Library Association to set everybody straight on First Amendment.
38:53
So after this today I will be working on countering that because they have a lot of books up there and we're going to flip that school board and then get these books removed out of there. But talking about those are both blue states and Huntington Beach is still California. So people think, oh, california, texas, florida, tennessee. We have laws in Tennessee. My school district is one of our worst and we have laws that help you supposedly remove these books and help parents. My school district has some of the worst books and it's because it still takes. The school district isn't going to do it, just like what we're seeing with the Department of Education. Everyone's pushing back with Trump's executive orders.
39:39 - Speaker 2
Local school districts are just saying make me, that's basically what yeah, they're saying, make me.
39:41 - Speaker 3
Well, I'm here to help make him Make it done. Yeah, so at that local level, we still need to file these challenges. We still need to take it to the school board and expose this is in your school and I have to tell you these books are again. Huntington Beach was like school board and expose this is in your school and I have to tell you these books are Again. Huntington Beach was like oh, it's so wonderful and conservative and Huntington Beach has got terrible.
40:03 - Speaker 2
All the books I've been talking about Huntington Beach. Finish the job, keep going you're doing great, but follow through on your swing.
40:08 - Speaker 3
And I just saw Pastor Joe, so I'm yeah, and they're very active there.
40:12 - Speaker 2
Wonderful, wonderful man of God.
40:14 - Speaker 3
Yeah, so I'm getting him some information, because a lot of these books here's something funny Not funny, but I was in Allen, Texas, a month or so ago and I work with a woman there.
40:26 - Speaker 2
Everything's perfect in Texas, right, I mean, it's so conservative.
40:30 - Speaker 3
None of this would be in Texas, well it was funny because I go to school board meetings all the time and we did the pledge and I went to sit down and there was like a ruckus and it's because after you say the pledge, you turn and you say the pledge to the Texas flag and I just said, oh, I should have known we're in Texas, yeah, we have to say the pledge, and so there's, this is very strategic.
40:52
I love this lady. She's older than I am, she's somebody I've met in the movement, but she gave me this great idea. She has the list of all the books that aren't allowed in prison because they're considered pornographic, and what do you think are on all those lists? So we'll be getting that and putting that on our website and so she literally will get up and read a book that is too pornographic for a prisoner, but you've got in your school district. Get up and read a book that is too pornographic for a prisoner, but you've got in your school district. Oh my gosh, oh my gosh people. And that's just an activist who saw this stuff and said you know, the Lord has called me to do this. I'm retired, so I'm going to go protect the hearts and minds of our kids.
41:27 - Speaker 2
We've had a lot of podcasts and probably none more practical than this one.
41:38 - Speaker 3
Well, and that's what I want to do. I want to stop the sexualization. It's not enough for me to read this here and for you to know it. If we don't get these removed, it does no good.
41:46 - Speaker 2
Let me play bad guy. So folks listen up. This is a theory now, okay. This is a theory now, okay. So I'm a student at you know, goofball, high school or no, take that back elementary school or middle school, junior high, and I get this from thank you very much. I get this from the library that you paid this book to be put in, and I'm like 14 or 15.
42:20
And on one Friday after school, girls had cooties from K to last Friday, and then I went back to school on Monday and they looked different, they smelled different, everything was different, because I had this explosion take place in my life and I read the book, thank you very much, from the public library and from the school library. And so I'm reading this and then I'm reading some of these things that you said a moment ago and now I'm thinking about it because it's in my head and I just can't control myself. And so either after school, out by the football field or in the bathroom, this encounter happens and I'm in trouble. Why am I in trouble and I'm in trouble? Why am I in trouble?
43:15 - Speaker 3
No, that is exactly and I think the viewers and listeners are going to realize. How much have we seen sexual assault in schools? Just go on, the rise Off the charts and young female teachers molesting students.
43:31 - Speaker 2
This it's in the paper all the time, People who have lost political office, who were politicians, young females who were with high school boys and this is happening nationally, folks.
43:58 - Speaker 3
And it's all part after book after book after it's like they're all there. I wonder what books are in there that aren't all about having sex, and not in some biblical way but in just especially this author in just awful graphic rape. Oh, lots of incest. The family's bad. The family and father figures are not good in any of these books.
44:24 - Speaker 2
No, of course not.
44:30 - Speaker 3
It's just terrible, Just like the Sarah J Moss books. There is not a school district in the country that does not have books by Ellen Hopkins.
44:43 - Speaker 2
Or an airport give shop. Yes, this is a very, very big book.
44:49 - Speaker 3
So this is a book I'm going to read, something. It makes me sick to my stomach when I read it. I don't ever, when I go to a school board meeting, ever have somebody else read it.
44:58 - Speaker 2
So if there's little ears, maybe they can run away right now.
45:00 - Speaker 3
Yeah, they should leave, and I'll tell a funny story. I went to Reno not funny anyway went to Reno, nevada, and the gentleman in front of me read from American Psycho. They shut the meeting down because it was so vulgar, et cetera, and they've got a policy against not saying vulgar words. But I knew this book because I know that school district. They wouldn't know what to do with my reading of it because it didn't have one word, and so I'm going to read this.
45:26
I closed my eyes tight, made myself no more than a shadow. Something about him was different. She's referencing her dad. I didn't want that something to find me. I cracked my eyes just a slit as he sat on Kaylee's bed, pulled her into his lap. He smelled of brute and wild turkey. I love you so much, my little flower. Daddy needs something from my girl, my sweet rose, will you give it to me? I wanted to be his little flower, would have given daddy anything. Why did he want Kaylee? She laid her feet on his chest. What? I want you to see something, something that proves how much I love you. This is only for you, kaylee. He lifted her gently, sat her down on the bed beside him and he opened the snaps of the fly on his flannel pajamas. It continues and I'm going to stop because even right now that makes me sick to my stomach.
46:15
You give this to some 14-year-old kid that has come from sexual trauma and 25% of our girls have, and you have just opened up a wound that never needs to be opened up, and this is just one of the—I mean this is—and then there's another one where he does the same thing.
46:32 - Speaker 2
There's people watching right now who in life had an experience like this and I'm sorry, I read their PTSD, isn't it? Listen to this. You should become the greatest warrior, like Karen is fighting. When you realized just a moment ago as she was reading, you got angry. Okay, personally, I know a lot of police officers who deal with rescuing kids from this world and I have told them you are way better man than I am, because if I rolled up on a situation like you do, I would think that strangling that guy to death would be the justice of God. And these men and these women who have to deal with the PTSD mayhem of this trash live in these trenches. These special victim units that have to deal with this stuff. Deal with this stuff. Listen, people who do this kind of stuff to children, to people.
47:47 - Speaker 3
They need to be put out of society and here we are nurturing it, we're creating it. This author's in every single school district and the whole series is there. And you asked about how they get purchased. It's interesting, all of mine are off, mostly Amazon, but I found out recently when library books are purchased they cost even more. So I did a public record Because it's taxpayer dollars.
48:07 - Speaker 2
that's why.
48:08 - Speaker 3
That is some of it, but they do a different binding on it because it's going to be used so much, and so it's interesting Like there was a book up in Elk Grove, california, and we did a. There was a Freedom of Information Act on the invoice for it and it was like $23.95 and I bought it for $12.95 off Amazon. So we're paying for all of this stuff in our schools and it again.
48:35
This makes me and it went on and it makes me sick to my stomach and I can't imagine is somebody out there that's now either feeling shame or a repressed memory. I mean there's just all so much that goes on with that. And the thing in the story and I mean I don't think I really even finished a whole book in high school. I wouldn't, I don't know what I was doing, but I wasn't reading. If you were to stop in this this also talks about, and if you come from any sexual trauma background, there's a component where you want to be loved, and so the other twin, the identical twin sister, is wondering why her dad doesn't love her the same way. So she's looking at it like that. And you're reading this story and I mean it just has totally traumatized.
49:25 - Speaker 2
I'm going to say something that people hate when I say this, but they can't prove me wrong. And it's not that I'm right or it's not that I'm, you know, discovered this in some sort of a you know dream or something. And it's this. Honest psychologists, honest therapists, honest counselors will tell you that those who have a struggle with gender identification of themselves, in other words, they'll say things like I'm a man or a female, locked in a female or in a man's body. They're not saying that just to be silly or to create news. They're actually really messed up, they're hurting. They're hurting and they're broken people because somebody broke them. And the researchers have found two common denominators. It's interesting that people who are suffering through the LBGTQ gender whole dynamic thing it's in the 90 percentiles above they were watch this. It's amazing. They were either A sexually molested as a young person, which, chemically, the mind and the soul goes through a reaction that then produces confusion, because they experienced something that they weren't supposed to experience until later in life.
50:53
They weren't supposed to experience until later in life. B nobody ever touched them. They were exposed to pornography and it had the same effect. Don't tell me that we're not fearfully and wonderfully made. We are, but we're fallen in our nature.
51:12
Little kids need to be protected, and number one parents. It ultimately lies with you. You are called by God to protect your child, okay, and you cannot, in this nation, assume that when you drop your kid off at school, that they have the best interest of your child in mind. That's gone. There may be a teacher or two, that that's true, but the system this table represents, the system that is bent on a satanic molestation of your child's mind and heart. And so we have got to get engaged, and you must right now. You must because of this podcast. You have to get engaged because listen, as I said, when you, as a believer, I'm just talking to the Christian the believer has to act against this. If we're going to be obedient to Jesus, we are supposed to punish disobedience. Who's going to punish disobedience? You expect the atheists to do this. It's up to the believer to do this. You need to speak up, karen, we're out of time. Closing, push to the end, across the finish line. What do you need to say? That has got to be said.
52:24 - Speaker 3
I think this is the year and this is the time after this election where people are going to be bold and courageous, and I want to encourage you to be that person that stops these people from raping the hearts and minds of our kids. Someone has got to protect our kids, and I'm committed to it. I'll do anything I can to help at TakeBackTheClassroomcom. Like I said, I travel with my porn. Tsa goes through it every so often. I want to help. This is deeper and wider than I ever thought, and their minds cannot get unraped once they've been raped.
53:02 - Speaker 2
And.
53:02 - Speaker 3
I want to protect them before that happens.
53:04 - Speaker 2
That's right. You're a national treasure. You are a hero. I know a lot of people. I don't know anybody like you. I don't know anybody fighting like you do. It's awesome.
53:16
And you know what? Can we pray right now? Because, don't you feel a little dirty? I feel like we've touched something right. I'm grieved in my heart.
53:25
Father, we pray right now and I just ask you, lord, to just cover Karen. I can't imagine what's in her heart and her mind, the junk she does, for us to research this stuff that is so offensive to your heart. And Jesus, you said that in the day of judgment, it will be better for a person to have never been born than for those who have hurt or injured a little one. Father, we pray right now that you'd wash our hearts and our minds from what we've heard today and convert it into action. Father, we appreciate what we have been awakened to, but may we not forget, may we take action to save our little ones. Lord, send revival to the church and send awakening to the lost. And, lord, may people do something about this cancer. Please, lord, bless TakeBackTheClassroomcom and all the amazing work that they've done, and may people support Karen's work, get behind her and help her and Father. We thank you, god, and we pray for the salvation and for the healing of abused children in Jesus name.
54:40
Amen, karen, thank you so much. Over the top, awesome. You guys stay tuned for more and more podcasts, and the Jack Hibbs show is what we're supposed to start saying. We'll tolerate that. Here's the thing, you guys. We believe that it's time to live out what we believe in. It's time for us to live a real life, and this is part of it right here. Right, it's not just always sunny days and beautiful moments. This is the battle zone, this is the war, and this is the field, and your child is on it, and so do everything you can to rescue them.
55:23 - Speaker 1
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