Jack Hibbs and Star Parker, Founder and President of C.U.R.E. talk civil rights

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Well, today we have with us a, not only a star in my opinion, but a warrior. If I could assemble a biblical image of Debra in the Bible, the great warrior woman of God, I would think of Star Parker, who we have with us today, and Star is on the front lines of doing everything she can to change the cultural direction of where America is at and where it should go. And we need this more and more in our country today. And so it is an honor to have with us, Star Parker. And just so our audience knows a little bit about you, you are the founder and president of Cure. The acronym stands for the Center for Urban Renewal and Education. And you have had quite a bit of success with this because if I remember rights, you made some impressions even upon President Trump and his administration. And beyond that, can you explain a little bit about that? Well, that started from a year ago and then I'll go backwards with you. And thank you for having me with you because this is exciting. And especially now you said, you're like Debra. Good, because that's what people say. You're aggressive. I'm like, I like it. Debra was aggressive. Then when they say, oh, they have all these things. They want to say, I always pick Bible characters to say, well, that's their personality, too. So I appreciate that. Yeah, actually, President Trump wanted to fix the inner cities. He ran on it. He told the world that he was going to fix the inner cities. He asked black people, what do you have to lose even though they didn't vote for him in major numbers. That year, he still wanted to fix the inner cities. So I was one of the folks on a task force trying to help shape that, what that should look like. It ended up where Senator Tim Scott and Senator Booker put in the tax bill and opportunity zone initiative. That's right. So in that, we were able to identify all 8,700 broken zip codes. And I'd always been through a cure about that little law sheep because God liked that little law sheep. And we wanted to help them recover their lives, put them on a path to where they could be healthy and whole in America. So I was able to do that. But he also put me on a commission. It is a civil rights committee for the state of California. And we answer to the city, to the national civil rights commission, which is where they look for race disparities. And so in the new appointments that Trump made for the state of California, we were able to push through to study the impact of AB 5 on minorities. I know there are a whole lot of people that are very upset that that's what we're studying. But we thought it's worthwhile because a lot of folks are in the gig business. A lot of people want to stay independent of working for a union. So it's been really fun. This is the first I've heard of this. And I have to tell you, be in a native Californian. And the fact that we know that Trump came here for various fundraising events. But he never really can't paint here. I know that he went up to the farm area near Fresno. And that was a big deal because he met with farmers. It was a small gathering. But he released the water back into the custody of the farmers, which was amazing, rather than have it go out to the ocean. But other than that, I just thought Trump didn't have any involvement whatsoever in California. Well, he had a plan to fix all of the inner cities. And when you think about the Civil Rights Commission and what normally happens through all of these organizations, if you will governmental interest in black or ethnic or race dynamics, the left has controlled that space well since they started. The 60s is when we saw many of these things come up after the Johnson administration. And then it moved into a firm of action and racial preferences. And so it's destroyed a lot of racial relationships and other things like that. But these are commissions. And each president gets a chance to put people on there. Many of the Republicans just ignored that opportunity. But President Trump said then put people on there. So it wasn't just in California. It's all over the country. Wherever he saw an empty space on the committee, he put people on there. Are those committees still going? Or have they been canceled? Oh, no, well, they can't be canceled. They're part of the, this is great to hear. They're part of the United States Civil Rights Commission. The reason that when the left people like BLM and Antifa complain about race dynamics and all of the woe is means they're lying on the country because what happened at the 60s is the structures were set up that if someone has a complaint, they do have somewhere to go. We have many of that. Every single department has a civil rights arm. And so they have people that are both sides of the aisle appointed to them by the president. President Trump is one of the first Republican presidents that took advantage of that. So now you have a lot of conservative and libertarians on these committees all across the country looking to really find what's broken down and see if we can actually fix it. So in California, we have the most incredible homeless situation going on. And what can you share about that? Why? What's happened to where several years ago that wasn't something that you saw and then now you do and you see it everywhere? What's happened? What transpired or didn't transpire for this? That's interesting. Really interesting question because the committee I just told you about, we were looking at homeless too. In fact, I was the one that wanted to work on that area. And then when it came down to the vote, everybody else that was more center right was going toward AB5. So I threw my vote there and we won by one vote to study that. But homelessness is my passion area for a variety of reasons. Not just my brother has lived on the street for 25 years, but you know my background because when I came to your church and talked about, you know what God delivered me from and to the criminal activity, the drug activity, the, you know, I mean, well, he's such a fulfilling God. Like he knows to go get that little law sheet, but he knows where we are. And so he does that with the homeless as well. But the challenge and what change was that the right looks at homelessness mostly through a Christian lens. That that person is a unique individual and has something that they can contribute to society. They just got lost. So let's go find out what it is. There might be drugs, there might be alcohol, might be economic. It could be that they're a mental problem. So it could be just they, they're disabled. But the left looks at it very differently. They like them in that capacity. They think that there's nothing wrong except that the Bible thumpers keep saying there's something wrong. So they just want them comfortable in that state. So when Barack Obama won the presidency back on 2008, he changed the rules. He moved. What used to happen was homelessness was in in HHS health and human services because health and human services the department and then they spread their wings everywhere handles human tragedies, human issues. He moved it from there, the budgeting to HUD because they think it's a housing problem. So they rather go by intense. And so what happened, the impact across the country over the last 10 years is that the people that were serving the homeless looking at all the areas where they're broken down and helping them fix their lives, all of a sudden their budget's dried up. So now they can go from 300 beds to 30 beds. In fact, one called the Red Door up in San Francisco area almost collapsed because of that one change. And so they've been working to get that thing changed back. But in the meantime, it just forced every homeless person out into the streets. And it's interesting you asked about President Trump. He was fixing that too. He had hired a person out of Texas and we had just finished all of the planning and then COVID hit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Remarkable. We had no plan. We had no idea that we'd be talking about Trump like this. It was not my plan. Well, but in a way, you have to say as aggressive as it was. And in fact, my fifth book was called Necessary Noise. You know, he inflames the Cultural War and why this is good news for America because he did inflame it. And there are many instances we can see through scripture where God would choose a total heathen to change things, to get his brick against the wall and make you make harder choices or even know that there's a challenge. And so he did some wonderful things in that time. And I think that even today that the baton was passed to these folks, these pagans to show people just how dark it can get both word administrations that I think were very welcome into our society because we reached a point we just couldn't go on like we were. You know, I've been in Washington and now for 25 years and my cure policy is in Washington DC. It's not just a deep state. It's a dark state and it's nowhere near what the founders had in mind. They really wanted a limited role of government. And now governments, a quarter of all of our budget is only on these poverty programs, which are people programs. And we don't want that. This is not where things should be. But most Americans, especially Bible-believe in Americans, were just ignoring the obvious. It didn't touch them so they didn't do anything. They didn't put any passion into it. And so I think God wanted to get their attention. You said something a moment ago and I'm going to act like it cannot be true. So I'm going to ask you to defend what you said a moment ago. You said that when the Democrat Party made the change under Obama from health and human services to HUD regarding the homeless, you said something to the effect that they like. They're okay with people living in tents. How can that possibly be true? How did they disconnect from that that's a human being? You know, these are the elite. These are the people that kill babies in the womb because they actually think that they may be overwhelmed. I'm so thankful that you're fighting that from happening here in California because it could happen. It will happen if we don't stand our ground to make sure that God's reward is brought to bear in this earth. But yeah, they're following. This is not a new discussion we're having. This is all throughout the scripture. What's happening for most Christian Americans is they never thought it would happen and they have to make these determinations. We've been spoiled. We've lived, you know, what did one of the scripture told us that Moab settled on her lease and been shifted and so now and and tilted and so now that's what's occurring. And so we have to remember why we believe what we believe. But yeah, the left, the enemies of God have always been. The the the King Solomon said there are an abomination of God and so yeah, they they when they ride by homeless, they don't even see them. Christian see them. They just don't know what to do about them. Wow. It's just a reality and and and and it's a continuous. That's why they trap poor children in failing schools. That's why they have nothing to do with ghetto. They just think it's okay. And there are Christian people that say, but it's not okay. They just don't know what to do. So not too long ago in this state, there was the numerically this state hosted the biggest governor recall in American history. Gavin Newsom was handed basically a you know, your fired notice and was forced into an election. And Larry Elder, he's a dear friend of ours. We love him. Larry Elder got more votes than all of the other candidates combined and Larry Elder had that front position because he had a plan. And one of the things that blew my mind and I loved about what Larry was saying and it kind of just rings true to what you were just saying a moment ago. I agree with you, Star, that the condition that we're in is because of the absence of Christian involvement. And Larry had asked me if if he were elected, if I could head up activating the churches in California by zip code, you mentioned zip code. And he said, based upon a church's capability, there's big churches, medium, small churches. He said, I don't really care about that. But if it's a small church in that zip code, maybe they could reach out to that one, two, three, or five homeless people that are nearest to them and begin to give them a life, give them the gospel, give them a trade, take them in, adopt them off the streets. The church could do this. And it was thrilling. I got so excited about what was going to be coming. Of course, it didn't turn out well. And it might not have even come that way because one of the things that people don't understand about the political process is this, it's entrenched in HUD. So even if you wanted to do it and a church wanted to do it, it's illegal to do it. Unbelievable. Yeah, you have to work through the structure, if you will. And now that's in HUD. It's incredible what has happened. When the budget was two billion for the homeless, we had about 200,000 in the country. They increased the budget because it's housing problem to four billion. Now we have 800,000. Okay, this is government. This is what they do when they create problems. This is the same strategy they use when they built out the ghettos, the housing projects, the section 8. They tell people don't work, don't save, don't get married. And we'll kind of keep it right here in that discomfort. But I think Larry would have done it. He would have gotten it just in a way. That's why I wanted me to Washington DC. Now I said, you know what, someone not to send him how many times President Lincoln lost before he won. And then he still lost. But Lincoln suffered so much death around his life. His loved ones. Especially with Diane Feinstein, ill right now, maybe he should look at that, maybe look at a congressional seat down in Orange County so that move up the apparatus and make the changes that need to occur. So Larry, we're sending you a message, Larry Elder. He's a good friend. He's a good friend. But I think that you're on to something when you look at what it is that the Liberals have done to damage what God has asked us to do. You know, we think about some of the social problems that we have. And the church responds to them. What the LGBTQ community is doing or tempted to do or children. So there's a reaction to that. What they've done through abortion. Then there's a reaction to that. But where we're now moving and we should move it society. And that's why I do give Trump credit for having us focus on those broken zip codes is we need to go and see what has happened to our poor. What has happened to those that God has told us to care about. Now what the left has sent out in messaging is that, oh, those people don't really care. They won't spend any money in it. But what many don't appreciate is how much money we actually do spend. Now it's not a lot of the church doing it. It's always like, you know, the 20% doing the heavy lifting. But that 20%. You know what it looks like? 400 billion dollars here. 300 billion dollars abroad. 900 billion in a welfare state forced into the coffers of Washington out of their paycheck. And that doesn't even include the tithe. So that means that people are benevolent. So they just don't know where, how do you fix what we keep seeing? So we do have enough programs going here and there. But a strategy is what really has to occur. And that's why there was energy and momentum behind Larry because you're right. He was approaching more like a businessman, not a politician. Politician always blame somebody else for why they can't get something done. But a businessman looks in the mirror. Says, I'm the reason something's not done. I need to make some changes. And so Larry has more business mind and would have really been effective here in California. Yes. So I don't know if what I'm going to say is going to get me in trouble or blow up something. But Larry had, he had name recognition. He had the votes. He had the rallies. People showed up in numbers. Not bad. Yeah. Okay. And he campaigned hard. But the party that he represented with the RN the end of his name, they didn't get behind him. The status quo party. They actually made it harder for him. And I saw that. I got to watch that firsthand. What's going on? The RNC, the Republican party is a business. And in that business, they have a board. We call them the 168ers. Every state gets to every territory gets to and then they have alternatives. I think they call them. So and those guys, it's, it's just business for them. They're not thinking about making changes. It's a comfort zone. It's a, it's a political party. And the 168ers is where people that are being compelled to go do something instead of running for office. Maybe they should think about replacing one of the committee men. Oh, yes. Because that's what happens. They were just come from top and they come down. And so it's just a party. The only reason I ran for office years ago, here in California is because that was the, your Michael Still had one, the RNC chairmanship and say what you will about him. And he has gone way left. But when he won and he saw that there were districts where they just weren't even running people. Yes. And yet the countries turned in blue. And he's like, wait a minute. You don't run people there? Even, well, they'll never win. How do you know that? So he told them when the 168ers went to their party in Hawaii, you can, you run someone in every district. And so when the California LA party came back, they're like, well, we have to run somebody. Maybe we should get somebody that could at least, you know, get some attention. And so they dragged me into that thing. We got a lot of attention, though. And now, but you know how I looked at it. First of all, five months was not enough time to undo 50 years of social engineering. That's what happens when you leave communities where the weeds come in, the dirt gets hard. Now they're semen on it. It's just going to take time. But you have to spend the time. And so even with Larry, you know, he is a national figure now. So now it's just time. And time can be on his side because people in California know something's going terribly wrong. We're even one of the reasons that guy's running up in LA. He's like, I don't want to leave LA. I love LA. Corusso's his name. Corusso, this is for the mayor. For mayor of Los Angeles. Yeah, business man. Big business man. Big business man. And his ads are really interesting because he's just saying, look, I don't want to leave LA. I love LA and we can fix this together. And so basically what he's saying is let's do this. One of the downsides to what happened to Larry is it was too close to Trump. And people were too mad at Trump. And so it brought out once they started messaging that he's just another Trump. It brought the liberals to the polls. But I think that there might be enough distance now that Corusso could pull out LA. If he's able to do that, you can then start to see that scene meant getting hammered on. You can be fixed. People are fixing it all around the world and looking into America because of the build act that Trump also did over some countries in Africa. But also here, we can see it in all of our little broken-down zip codes that there's some activity. Greenville, South Carolina for instance, they just came out with a book just was written about what they've been able to do. It's called reimagining Greenville. They took that city and flipped it. And now global travelers magazines say if you go to a California, I mean if you go to the U.S. and you haven't gone to Greenville, you missed you missed America. We can turn this around. It's just a matter of getting someone with the passion to say I can fix it. But to your point, neighborhood at a time. These churches, I was just talking one of our pastors. We have a three programs in cure. We have the policy program. We have a media program. We have a clergy association. I was talking to one of my clergy. He told me, oh, I've passed to the baton to a new clergy. I said, oh, when I'm in LA, I'll like to meet with him. He said, well, I have to get an appointment because he lives way out. Like, I don't want to say because they're going to know who I'm talking about. I'm like, what kind of pastor doesn't live in his community? Never mind. You've got to be a pastor. Never mind. You know, I'm just, if you fix your blocks, if you took the Nehemiah model and fix your blocks and it just next to each other. Fight in front of your door. Right in front of your door. That's right. So that's what that's where churches have decided to go with a lot of their attention. And the vultures come in. The pay goes are there now. So it's making it harder. The cancers metastasize, but there's healing even in stage four. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's been sad, and there's been those who have said it, that California, that they have hoped for California because it's gone solo. It's gone so down that there's no further place for it to go. I want to believe that's true. It's not true. But I don't believe it. I think it could go much worse. What would you say needs to happen in California? Because you have great insights to what's going on, what's wrong and what could be right. What does the average California need to do if they don't want to move? I have to tell you, could I move? I could move. I've been passing this church for over 30 years. Well, hypothetically, right? I mean, I've passed here for more than 30 years. I could go, but I don't want to go. And I'm not going to go. I'm not leaving. Yeah, I work in DC, but I'm not leaving California. God called California. Most of our cities are named after saints. This is the place to be free. Every time I come and you see the ocean, it reminds me of that poet that said, when I just see that orange skew over the horizon, my sense of possibility returns. We know what that means as California is. We just let it get away from us. And we need to take it back. So it's a war. And I don't think that everybody's going to need to leave. And in particular, when it comes to property taxes, one of the initiatives by Republican here in our state keeps our property tax so low that if you can get a house, you can keep your house, even when you're age in your house. No, this is just going to take some fight. And most of that fight is you and leading your congregation to say, no, it's not about the economic conditions for why we might leave and go somewhere that's just brutal that doesn't have what we have in terms of freedom and beauty. But it's because of that freedom of beauty. God wants us to fight for his land. And we need to do it. And we're dark, but that's why the light has to shine here. I love what you just said. It's so encouraging. And maybe it's because I'm a native Californian that I say this, but very few people know what you just said that most of our cities are named after religious figures and our saints. For example, Sacramento is referencing the sacredness, Sacramento, Sacramento. Sacramento. This is the only state out of all the 50 states that have mission stations that fathers Sarah established to preach the gospel. It's the only state in America that has the El Camino Real, the King's Highway, King Jesus. But what is good is always under attack. I mean, you can't say anything. Star Parker cannot say anything that is good without it being attacked. Same goes for me. But what do we expect? Here's the thing that I wish and hope and pray that Californians wake up to, that this state's worth fighting for. Well, people are going to criticize us if we take a stand. So what? It's worth fighting for. And technologies right here, computer, aviation, right here, gold rush. It's an incredible it's freedom. And we're losing that freedom and we have to get our passion to want it back. You mentioned technology. You know, I've used many a time in my column during this abortion debate that we're having Steve Jobs as an example of would your life be better or worse without him? I mean, my goodness, he was a single mom. Here she is pregnant with this good who dad, it was and he got adopted out. I mean, adoption is a beautiful option. Got adopted us in this family. So I think that it's, I think that there are a lot of the techy guys are actually waking up to the reality that freedom is much better than the totalitarianism that the left has in mind. Where it becomes complicated for them is that there's abortion. There are some absolutes that if they buy into, they're going to be called religious zealots and they don't want that part of it. But I think that there's room for religious zealots in California. We can be whatever we want to be and do whatever we want to do. Then I think that we can make Christianity in Boga again. I think it's wonderful, frankly. What's very cool is the fact that I'm, in fact, just last night I had a chance to speak to about 300 young people and I'm very encouraged. A lot of people don't realize that even if they're not believers, those that are 35 and under are trending pro life because of technology. Yeah, they have apps now where you can put in, oh, I think I'm eight weeks pregnant. There's all kinds of apps that show computer-generated design activity of what's going on in the inside. And this is changing people's minds. The younger generation's very pro life. We just need to get them to vote. Well, now that's a different issue. People have to change their voting patterns, but the Republicans are too lazy to go out and say here at the here, the absolute, so it's almost become meaningless to many. But it's interesting that not only to become a more pro life, we're starting to see them want to think about marriage again because they're coming from all this brokenness. The baby boom generation tried it all in it and it's left wanting. So I think that people, we could see a shift, especially with that major young youth, you know, because they're, they've experienced the hurt, the ugly. They're seeing that nothing is going right anywhere in our society while liberals will just keep saying, well, let's just do it more. And they're like, no, and they actually care. They care about their neighbor, if you will. They're, they're social. And so in that social state, they want to do something. So the job of the church is to be the organization set up to help them get that done. Exactly. We've always been, but now we got a lazy about us and now God's waking us up to our first mission, our first love to get back out there and help the least of these. Yep. Yep. So I think that that's what politicians have to do. That's why I was so glad to see you helping Larry. That's what they have to do in Washington DC. And there's a real lining that is going on. And even though it's dark, we're sitting about, it's grace much more bounds. So when we grab a hold of that and stop becoming the complaint machine, which is happening, and it's now it's firming up inside of the party of the right, we can't allow that as Christian conservatives. Are you kidding? God is gracious. He's full of compassion. He's alive. So why in the world would we want to think that, what was me? Everything's over. It's not over whatsoever. Star, what would you say to the Christian community that says, oh, you know, wow, it makes a lot of sense, Star, what you're saying, but we're Christians and this is the world and this is not our home. Heavens are home and we really don't get involved in anything like that because it's dirty. It's the world. But it's not the world. God created and wants us to create. We're here for a purpose. We're to fix what we see is broken in our immediate lives. It's not about dismissing it and saying, well, I'm going to turn it anyway. What about that lot of life that you have right here? You didn't ask to be here. God put you here. That's why even on abortion debate, it's like not everyone can get pregnant. So the fact that you're pregnant on or being a mom, even if it's one minute, then you turn that child to someone else that will raise them. So no, I have to look at everything as an opportunity. And those people that want to escape, especially the ones that say, oh, well, you know, God's coming. Remember when the economy fell apart and everyone was losing their homes in Orange County and all that meant the rapture was next day. I'm like, maybe you should read it either from history. Maybe you should travel around the world and see that. No, the fact that you wash your $500,000 house. Just go across the border. What I do every time I get the press, I take a trip to Italy, where they were doing the catacombs and going way down to where they were stripping skin. And I remind people and myself, remember when God called Netanyu, he said, there's purity. He said, that guy's really good. You know how he lost his life? They stripped his skin off. So don't really live in Orange County, California, you're depressed talking about some rapture. I just laugh at him. I don't even have a word to say to them. That's so true. I love it. Go adopt something. Go do something. Well, watch TV. You know, these are the same ones that sit there and watch all that secular stuff. We would have an LGBTQ problem right now if Christian people weren't watching and laughing at all that stuff when they were trying to embed it into culture. So I think that to reverse it, go instead and help it at a crisis pregnancy center because they're going to get overwhelmed when we end abortion, when we overturn Roe v Wade. Our centers are going to need everything. They're going to need time, talent, research, everything. They're going to need to imagine what you just said if we had, if we could somehow get the challenge across that we're going to have like 30 days of Jesus do. Jesus do. That's a great. Let's do 30 days of Jesus do. What does that mean? Okay, no technology. Let's get up. Let's get out. Right? And let's let's let's go do something. Let's clean up our streets. Let's go and volunteer somewhere. Let's take care of somebody's little child that's up. Yeah, I like it. Yeah. Yeah. Call the city. It's like this. You might even like it. And you know who can really do it or the singles because all they do is what was made they want to be married. But if you go out and you do the work of Anna and others in the scripture, then then you'll be fulfilled. You'll find that that you're looking for instead of sitting there watching TV. So why don't you do that? You're a pastor. You have a big following. Why don't we do it? 30 days of Jesus do. That's the question that we should do it in June because June is now the gig month. And we can be happy gay too. I don't even, you know what? I've noticed. Nothing happens. Well, when these cameras turn off, let's let's figure it out. Oh, we want Jesus do. Jesus do want. That's actually a really good idea. Yeah. Yeah, because imagine just imagine. I mean, how many churches are there? And if everybody said we can do that together surely. We are the church. And every Christian, I mean, a third of Americans still get them go to church when their church is open. So that's 100 million that go that do that. So 100 million people in their various states on one month just doing something that they think the Lord would appreciate. That could actually imagine if somebody like Star Parker could even craft an assignment where the Jesus do thing is pick one of these five things for your church or community. Oh, I can give some thought to that. It's one of the ideas that we have at Cure is charity tax credits. You know how you get deductions when you give or you're offering or give donation. But in our broken zip codes and areas that really need attention, if we could get charity tax credits to where people volunteer in there and or they give money in there, it's dollar for dollar just like they have their per child tax credits. So we haven't gotten that to law yet, but the discussions continues. And every time there's a political turnover and Republicans in charge, you just try to get your ideas into something that they're already doing. So that's an idea that we have been trying to move forward. You know, it just comes to mind that what we're talking about is what the early church did in colonial America. The early church was the epicenter of the community's activities. Government got in our way when you look at what happened. After the Civil Rights Act was signed into law, freedom was our country. We were reborn as a people. Now it became very individual, individual, whether you're dealing with racism in your life, whether you're dealing with anger in your life, whether you're dealing with poverty in your life, that was our moment to say, let's go do what the founders had envisioned. But instead, they developed a welfare state within a year. A year later, the government's like, oh no, no, your churches are not doing what you used to do. We're taking over this and we secularized everything. And over time, it just got to where it really corrupted our society. So now we have you know, energy problems. We have the hard, you know, dangerous energies overwhelm the creative energy. It just in pockets though, but it's fixable. It really is. If we add the body of Christ focused on it, it is fixable. And then we can take it from the government again. It's hard to pull it out now because seven out of ten dollars that comes into Washington, immediately goes out to a person through a program. But over time, the way we got here, we can get out of it, but it does take long term planning because it's 50 years that took us to get here. So I think of citizens cared. They just decided to care. I think they do care pastor. I think they just don't know what to do. Everyone, so it's easier to tune it out. Which by the way, this is a good place for us to start wrapping this up. We're very committed, as you well know, to being a church of a non-spectator faith. We don't believe in a spectator faith. That if a believer believes then they're going to go do the Jesus thing. And so you spoke here rather recently and you don't know this, but you came out here and you were so gracious because the schedule had to get shifted up for some reason I forget. You came out like about four hours ahead of schedule and you delivered a message that was to come back California, I believe it was, or whatever that special event was. What you said was so anointed. It was so powerful and it got a lot of traction and so much so that soon I have a plan to show it here. I'm going to introduce it to the congregation and what the event was and then throw you up on the screens and have it played. Because of the magnitude and the impact of what you said was so true, so honest, so direct and your voice needs to get out so much more. I know you're out there but it needs to get out more and I know that when you look up Star Parker's name it will say most often activist. And I hate that title in most contexts but here's how I view it because of having seen you in person speak is if you want to label her activist it's because she's activated. Okay. You've been active. You want to slap active activists whatever but you have been so activated. You are truly preaching and saying and offering what you believe. And so what can our audience do to help you? Where can they send their love? Oh they can send their love to curepolicy.org for sure. Curepolicy.org. We are nonprofit and we can use every dollar and we do wisely to get the messaging out for sure in those three areas that I mentioned but also the encouragement of prayer and then to be active in what we're asking to do. One of the reasons I started Cure is to get poverty issues out of Washington DC. Charity belongs to the church. It belongs to local communities and we've allowed government to take over and destroy people's lives. So I wanted out of there so they can also volunteer. Our pregnancy care centers really need their help. This is a big deal for me because when women say no men will go to work and then they'll marry. Imagine. So and that's what has broken down. In fact I just did my column and I'm looking at the numbers of what happens to men when they get lost. Marriages of social stabilizer God put the biological clock in a woman to help stabilize our society but when marriage breaks down men get lost and now we have a lot of lost men so we're seeing suicide rates. We're seeing the gun violence so they're always alone men. They don't they're just lost in society and it's women that help them. So when because of birth control and welfare stayed abortion women are not demanding marriage and then they don't demand marriage. Men lose child. You should see the numbers in fact my call it's out this week. You look at that and see the numbers of the men that are just dropping out of society. They're just dropping out of work and now the women are the ones working and marriages totally collapsed. Where's this column? Oh it's at curepolicy.org too but it's a nationally syndicated column. I don't know where it runs around here it used to be an orange kind of register but then they sold and they did all kind of stuff but it's all across the country and a lot of papers all across the country. Wow and a lot of websites if y'all I don't know where that thing is I made it for creators and then they get it out everywhere. I know I just found out I'm in Chattanooga every Sunday because I said yeah you're in my Chattanooga paper every Sunday 250,000 people I'm like really I never knew yeah it is great because I knew I was in Nashville and I knew I know I'm in a lot of low places but I had no idea I was in Chattanooga on the Sunday morning so that's kind of cool but yeah the the back to the point that the churches the model for what people need to do and I think that the more we understand that you know how um you know when you what is a scripture you know where you have more responsibility to whom much is given much is required that's right so we're we're required to to to to to recover our lives and this is a punish lives you know he was wonderful he didn't give us that statement as a punishment you know to whom much is given much is required he gave that to us as a motivator it should be like really wow when you're faithful with a little bit you know I love what you just said and I and I don't know if it was through Ben Shapiro or or Dennis Prager whatever group it was but um something to the effect but this I do remember where the question was put forth who do you think uh is better off the single man or the married man and most people thought the single guy he can do whatever he wants and he can do well if he can do whatever he wants he also sleeps in and he also doesn't engage what happens is at the end of a certain time frame I don't remember if it was 45 or 55 whatever it was the married man makes more money because he's motivated and the married man the married man has less mental health challenges and he's physically healthier every in every every you know it's like he can do it every once it's like a child that you don't have the fence up they don't go out because they're you got up right and men women are their social stabilizers so they reach their their goals and the challenge that we have with more single men is single men are promiscuous men yep generally speaking and promiscuous men they're creating dangerous men 95% of the men in our prison system have no relationship with their dad now the blacks want to reverse it and try to make it seem like it's racial it's not racial because when you see black husbands married to the mother of their children we can't even measure the difference in how their children fair whether it's educational crime economically when we compare to whites where the husbands married to the mother children but where you see single life that's where you have this disparity 75% of those young boys in our criminal justice system they don't have a relationship with their dad they're not they're from single households these these these guys and marriage in a black community unfortunately has broken down at a faster pace than in the white community so now you have about 30% of black adults married in a white community they're right at 50% that's why you're starting to see the same pathologies that we thought were only in our poor communities everywhere in society we can recover this if all we do is get rid of abortions so women will be much more mindful about their sexual expressions and learn to say no again you say no they'll marry you and when they get married they fare better that's how God designed it and it's worked throughout history as you've said and we thought we knew better and we learned lightning and we changed things and now we're looking at the data saying this is not good wow you know the you mentioned 75% the first time I ever heard that was from a man who said the reason why there are more black men in prison is because 75% of those men grew up in homes where their dads fathered them but never was never a dad and abandoned the family and that's got a change you know said that Barack Obama said that yeah yeah Barack Obama and then he made it to the presidency and he turned that race card out and and didn't look back anymore at the damage that he was doing to these young men and I think that that's why we saw a lot of black young men gravitate toward Trump because they need that they need someone all men need someone that channels their energy from the streets to sports or to school into something and usually it's the wife that will help do that in a man's life and that's what makes society you're right including aging they age men don't age well alone and and we can go on this is a dad I study through cure this is what we do we try to fix things we just came out with our first home a book the state of black America and it's an and it's the alternative to what we've been hearing from the urban league and all the rest of them in their state of black America since the 50s that every problem that happens in these communities is somebody else's fault and we just came out with ours and said we're going to take an in-depth look at the history the good the bad the ugly and then we're going to try to move forward and so next year when we come out with it we're going to look at where it broke down in social policy and make sure that the society recognizes that this is not about race this is the challenges we're having today are moral challenges it's about spiritual well-being and we've lost that in our in our culture we've lost it all throughout our culture so now we have to get to the place that when Nehemiah he was crying he went in to them and they said will you build you want to do this and people said yes that's why I'm encouraged because people they all said yes but he did go around the leaders to get to the people he had to go around all of them he slept a few guys you're right I just lapped a few guys around you know well you said I'm Deborah I think she slapped around a paper but yeah exactly well yeah I think that um you know if your Christians will get their their their encouragement back that God saved them yeah then I think that we can get our country back and get our culture back so listen you've got some materials that people get at cure dot orgy right yeah well you've got to go to cure policy dot or or and everything we have books we have and we only we don't bother you we've just once a week you're going to get an email or to have my tv show in there or have my podcast in there have um some research we've done in there so just once a week and kind of go through all of that but books are available and things like this as well including the state of black America and then annually we have a policy summit for the clergy that are serving in those zip codes and so we really want people to come to the one that we have coming up in October this year because it's one month before the election and so we're encouraging people to send their gifts to us so that we can scholar pastors that are in some of our battleground senate states and get them in a room for three days and lock the door and let them know that that Tuesday they need to encourage their congregation to stop voting against their Christianity wow don't vote your color vote your Christ that's what we're doing this year where and when again it's in Washington DC every year but it's in the fall it's in October the first week but this year we're really pushing in to get pastors that are from those different states just come in and listening to this regular diet of what has broken down and in particular for their congregations and how it is imperative that they do what you do on Sunday they inform their congregation say you know what we love God but we're going voting against him and we need to stop don't worry about whether there's a DNR anymore just go and vote your values that's right that's right so that's in October for us amazing yeah where you guys start Parker so send your love to cure policy dot orgy cure policy dot orgy I would love for you guys to respond to her website because she mentioned the word sponsorship to get leaders to this conference that they can make a difference in their community that's how we're going to experience things changing in America two different ways revival will take place within the church it's the church that must be revived when the churches revive the culture is changed if you study revival in history that's exactly what happens she mentioned Nehemiah a couple of times that's exactly what happened and that's what the hope for California is it's in the church it's not in the state house it's in God's house and so please remember pray for star Parker support star Parker cure policy dot orgy awesome materials there and star is great heavy you thank you love your love your boldness love your clarity thank you this jack hips podcast as well as all the broadcast outreach opportunities are listener supported will you consider partnering with us through a special gift go to jackhybs.com to learn more and stay connected