Women's Rights, Trump, and Truth

00:00 - Speaker 1
Real Life presents the Jack Hibbs podcast with intention and boldness to proclaim truth, equip the saints and impact our culture.

00:09 - Speaker 2
Hey everybody, we're going to have an amazing time with a very special guest, a woman that has my utmost respect as she takes on the cultural warrior type issues of our day to day battle right here in America. So stay tuned. You'll find out who that is in a moment.

00:29 - Speaker 1
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00:58 - Speaker 2
Well, welcome to this podcast, and we are going to have a tremendous time together today, and you're going to see the reason why it's going to be filled with energy, insight, wisdom and, frankly, what I love so much activism. And you heard me right yes, I'm a pastor, but I believe that Christianity and our faith is active. It should make a big difference. Faith is a verb and it should be moving, and we have with us today Penny Nance, who has been a mover and shaker in the social and cultural battlefield in America when it comes to women's rights, when it comes to Supreme Court justices being approved or nominated or campaigned for, when it comes to what's going on in your local culture as a community and nationally. Penny has her hands on everything and we're impressed by her. She is the CEO and president of the Concerned Women for America, and so I'm honored, we are honored, to have with us Penny Nance.

02:02 - Speaker 3
Thank you. Oh my goodness, I appreciate that. That's a lot for a preacher's kid from Appalachia, graduate of Liberty University, get to be here with you. I'm a member of Liberty. Yes, I actually serve on their board of trustees now, which means a lot, but it's just a deep honor to be here with you, pastor Hibbs, and to have been with you last night talking about support for Israel. Just what a wonderful church. You have an incredible ministry and I'm grateful to be here with you.

02:26 - Speaker 2
Well, thank you. The people at the Church I, pastor, make it very easy for me to pastor. As you saw last night, they're out in force. She's referring to an evening that we just hosted Stand with Israel, and so we had a tremendous time together. Nancy led the congregation in specific prayer points and it was powerful. But we're here today to talk about what is on your heart, what is burdening your ministry, your heart, and what needs to be said at a time like this. We're living in very, very you know, to us it's bizarre days, but yet these are days that have been announced in Scripture. We're not surprised by these days.

03:14
But share with us what's burning in your heart.

03:19 - Speaker 3
Well, I think CS Lewis, I think, said it so well there's no neutral ground in the universe. Every square inch and every split second is claimed by God and counterclaimed by Satan. And that's really the crux of the battle that we're in, and it's been since the beginning of the time, since the fall of man. And here we are, and many of these battles aren't even new. Many of your viewers maybe know Beverly LaHaye founded Concern Women for America in 1979 from here in California, and then they moved the operation, the organization, to Washington DC. But they started.

03:55
These women, these faithful Christian women, came together in 1979 to stand up for truth, the truth in the public square, and fought the ERA and won Because, if you remember, it was sailing through before Christian women woke up and said, wait a minute, if this passes, because it sounds kind of good, right, equal rights for women, like we're for that, equal pay, sure we get it. But then they found out, reading between the lines, that actually that meant that it would strike down all the pro-life prohibitions in states. It meant the very things that we're fighting right now men in women's locker rooms, men in women's sports, all those things and like, wait, we're not for that. And so they came together and they educated people and educated their friends and their families and their churches and their Sunday schools and the parents, teacher associations and all their friends and came together and got people out and prayed and worked and they were victorious. But Satan doesn't have any new ideas.

04:57 - Speaker 2
No, no, no.

04:58 - Speaker 3
He just loses and reconstitutes and comes back and we fight those same battles, just like we are today.

05:04 - Speaker 2
In fact, I think it's very good with what you just said. Satan is, he's not an originator. He cannot do that. You're exactly right. He will do everything in a knockoff form. And so what he does is he promises people liberty and freedom when in actuality it's bondage, but he packages it in a very tasty, almost like candy-like style that if you're not grounded in the Word, if you're not a follower of Christ, you're going to fall for it. I mean, look, eve was not a dummy, so we've got to believe that when Satan spoke to her, he must have spoken in such cunning and appealing ways that she fell for that. So today that tactic still works to wrap something up with all the glitter and the bow. But when you open it up, there's this Pandora's box, and we're seeing that in our culture today, where we have gone through and you please correct me if I'm wrong, but we started with, like you said, the equal rights for women.

06:09 - Speaker 3
Of course, we're all in favor for that, but Satan is a good marketer, though I will say that, oh well, he's a good marketer, a tremendous.

06:19 - Speaker 2
Yeah, he's able to get around the world in a moment what takes Apple computer months or years to market out there. But there's this thing where, oh, you're in bondage, you're not happy. You need this to really be something. This is the answer. Oh yeah, this is the answer, and here's your truth.

06:38 - Speaker 3
Speak your truth. Yeah, what do you feel? That's your truth and this is my truth. So this is my truth and the confusion that has ensued. I recently, and I've been thinking a lot about the truth. I keep talking about it because Jesus says I am the way, the truth in the life, no man comeeth to the Father, but by me, jesus is truth. We only know truth because we know God, who is the author of truth. Right and then, and we have the Holy Spirit to help clear away the cobwebs and see the reality of these situations, and sometimes not even right away, sometimes it's through prayer.

07:11
But you have an entire society that, particularly under COVID, where communities were broken, were churches, not great churches like yours, but churches that were even my churches that didn't come back together. They're very slow to come back together. They couldn't even manage to go to their parking lots and come before the Lord, and so young people were alone, they were broken off from community. They couldn't go to school. They had to have a computer in order to try to learn, although we know they didn't, we know that our school, our school children, particularly our underserved communities, are several years behind where they should be and may never catch up.

07:57
The people that were hurt the most by the heavy hand of government were the people who are the least of these, and when any of us said anything, we wanted to kill old people. Clearly that was it. We're selfish, we don't care. And so you had young people and old people alone and lonely in their homes, and we have record numbers of suicide now, record numbers of fentanyl overdoses, people fell off the wagon, people got involved in drugs and young kids went searching for love and found the dark corners of the internet and were dragged into the whole trans movement and we had doctors who were making bank at $100,000 a pop and then lifelong medical patients in order to do trans surgeries on little kids.

08:50 - Speaker 2
Listen with what you just said so clearly. Do you think there's any? I mean, you and I know there's a day of reckoning before God, but before that time comes, do you think they're ever gonna be held accountable, these physicians that thought up these horrific things of mutilating this kid or this person? Do you think they'll ever be held accountable?

09:14 - Speaker 3
Well, I don't know about the day, but I will tell you that and I know you think this too that Satan always overreaches right Always overreaches, Always overreaches, and so it went from.

09:26
we need to respect everyone. Okay, I get that to. You have to deny reality and you have to ascertain that my truth, which is a lie, is the truth. And you have to call me another pronoun. You have to pretend that I am a woman when I'm a man and welcome me into your sorority, into your locker room, onto your sports team. And that's where they went too far, Because mothers around this country and you know these women who got up at oh Dark 30 and drove their children to their sports team, to their practices, watched their daughters work so hard, all their for career, for their careers, in order just to have an opportunity to compete and to go to college on a scholarship and to win trophies and to win titles, and it was all taken away. And so you're seeing, finally, this moment, because at the beginning you had these young women who couldn't say anything because their scholarships were at risk, but now they're graduating and you have everyone from Gaines. What's?

10:41 - Speaker 1
her first name, riley Gaines, who I know well and love.

10:43 - Speaker 3
Yeah, we had her on our program, yeah, and you have, and she's a notable person who, early on, came on because she swam against Leah Thomas. Another person who you don't know as well is one of our members. Her name's Kylie Allons, 31 time All-American champion from NC State and has school titles out the ears, and she also swam against Leah Thomas, but her story's a little bit different. She, of course, resists the fact that she came in further behind because of him, but her biggest issue is that when they got there, they had no idea that they were gonna be sharing a locker room with him. No one told them ahead of time that a man would be in their locker room. An anatomically correct man who still dates girls, is going to be in their locker room. Now, I didn't really know this.

11:31 - Speaker 2
Wait a minute, I get that.

11:35 - Speaker 3
At Georgia Tech and the.

11:36 - Speaker 2
NCAA. I get the biology part. Did you just say that he still dates girls with swims against women in the women's competitions?

11:44 - Speaker 3
That's true, that's correct. So we're, he's a lesbian. We're, we're.

11:51 - Speaker 2
So we're crazier than I thought a moment ago.

11:55 - Speaker 3
Oh, we're totally crazy. But then everybody is crazy. Just the grownups that are supposed to be in charge are crazy the heads of the NCAA and the new head of the NCAA, charlie Baker brand new guy, as it doesn't seem to be catching on either. So what happened is Kylie. So this was something that I did not understand until she explained it to me.

12:15
I'm never swim competitively in my life, but when you do, you don't just change one time, you change several times. You're in a practice suit, you're out of that, you're in something else. You change several times in the last suit, for the actual heat. You're putting on a performance suit that covers you from your knees to your neck. It's very thin and it takes between 10 and 30 minutes to get into. It's very tight and you have to be very careful or it will tear, I suppose. And so the women were so nervous. And now think about this. Kylie's a senior. This is her last chance. She's at Georgia Tech. This is her last chance. She's worked up her entire career. For this moment, and instead of being thinking about her race and what she needed to be thinking being having her head in the game she's having to think about oh my gosh, is he coming around the corner? Is he in here?

13:03
What's gonna happen. And so you know what she did Is. She took her swimsuit, she left the locker room and she found a utility closet. She was the one driven into the closet and a lot of her teammates went with her. The girls changed in the closet rather than being in the locker room with a man.

13:23 - Speaker 2
You would think that the other team would say there you go. Now you're thinking you're changing in the utility room where you should change, but that probably wasn't enough for them. They probably the changing of your uniform or your swim gear in the utility room is not enough. What must be enough is that even if you could beat this man in the event, you better not beat him. You have to sense, because, could you imagine, has it happened yet? I'm honestly ignorant about this. Has a woman yet beat him in swimming?

13:59 - Speaker 3
Has he ever asked anything? Yes, but we're not really sure if it's real right, frankly, Because that would be very unloving, but regardless. There are below him several women that should be in or women that didn't even make the team because of him. And it's not just swimming, it's track, it's weight lifting.

14:23 - Speaker 2
We just saw it in the US Marine Corps. There's a laughing stock video on TikTok, where the US Marine Corps just went down a massive path of compromise because of really not only could the test that you had to take physically to become a Marine, most men can't make it, well, they wound up changing the requirements in the time allowed it for the endurance to be so skewed. And it's all on video. And then it's been played in Russia.

14:57
It's been played, yeah, it's been played in Iran, and these people are laughing at the US Marines because there's a woman who can't carry an 80 pound sack backpack gear up a mountain, and so there's Marines standing around cheering her on and the spin out there in the other countries is this is what the US Marines have become. That's dangerous.

15:25 - Speaker 3
That is dangerous and the recruitment rates in our military are a bisphole 44% of that and I say this as an Army mom. My son will be active duty in the Army as a second lieutenant in a year and I am pro-military. We love our military, but there needs to be some changes and it has to start at the top. It has to start with a commander in chief and so.

15:48
But you know, what is his name? Well, you know, I think, does Joe Biden know he's the commander in chief? I don't know. I don't know. But I will say your original question is do I think there's a reckoning? Yes, I do, and I will tell you that I've seen glimpses of hope and, of course, always God is in control. He loves the weak, he loves women, he recognizes that it is wrong for them to be taken advantage of, and this is a situation in which they are.

16:18
But aside from that, you know, we've come alongside and linked arms with a group of women that we have nothing in common with, except for this, and this is they're called the women's liberation front. These are radical leftist women who, many of whom are bisexual and lesbians. Can a guy join? I may? No, no, they're on our team on this. They're like a woman, is it? You can materially not change from being a woman to a man. They are. They come hard. They're like the few little things that women fought so hard for, and they're a hundred percent right the right to vote it took a hundred years for us to get the right to vote.

16:56
We've only had it for a hundred years and the fact that you know these few little set-asides and that you know we only had the title nine for 50 years. Title nine gave us the opportunity to have equal opportunity in education and sports and suddenly the people that worked so hard have have changed teams and they feel completely betrayed. You know, I think it was a woman from Hawaii Patsy Mink, congress one from Hawaii, was the sponsor of that bill. She is turning over in her grave at this point to see what's happened to title nine. So one of the things that CWA has done as we move into this moment is to really try to to really set down some markers and to get ahead of things. So one of the things we did is we went to we put together a presidential pledge for American women to. We wouldn't send it to all the presidential candidates, democrats and Republicans, we send it to everyone. This is, this is current Currently, and so we've had four presidential candidates sign it. So far.

18:01 - Speaker 2
So right now, everybody listen. This could be breaking news right here on this podcast.

18:06 - Speaker 3
Yes, and so if you go to concernwomanorg, we have a copy of it up and you know, even you can take the same pledge and we have a version of it that you can take to your city council, take to your, take to your school board, take to anyone that you want, because this is an easy one. It should be for right thinking people to sign. And it says as president of the United States, I've promised to uphold truth, the truth that women are exclusively female. Only women can be pregnant and bear children. Only women can be mothers under law.

18:38
Under my administration, the status and dignity of women and girls will not be compromised in law policy. That sex is binary is a scientific reality and all federal agencies will be directed to hold up this fact in every policy and program at home and abroad. Um, a person's claim of gender and identity does not overrule their sex. My administration will focus on affirming sex based distinctions to protect women in every area, such as shelters, prison housing, healthcare, defense, education and sports. I will protect the dignity of women and motherhood in all circumstances.

19:21 - Speaker 2
That's awesome. That's the person I want to elect, and are you at liberty to tell us yes, I would have.

19:26 - Speaker 3
Well, I'll tell you who the first person was. It was Donald J Trump.

19:29 - Speaker 2
There he goes again, there he goes again and he was, and he was the first guy.

19:34 - Speaker 3
I gave it to him. Actually, I think I have a picture on my Instagram, if any of you viewers want to come when my husband and I went up. The funny thing about it is because you know President Trump and he he does have a great sense of humor. He started reading it and he got to the first thing. I said I'd like for you to take a look at this, mr President. He said he was reading I promise to hold the truth that women are exclusively female. Only women can be pregnant and bear children. Only women can be mothers.

19:58
He looked at my husband. He's like can you believe this? Like, can you believe that I have to tell people that this is what I believe? And that was just his gut reaction on it. He got it immediately, so he was the first guy out of the gate and I was very grateful for that. So I mean, it's been months that I gave that to him. And then, after that was Vivek Ramoswamy signed it, and then Nikki Haley and just, I don't know why it took so long, but Governor Ron DeSantis has signed just as a few days ago. So we've got four. We're going to continue pushing it. But I got to tell you it means a lot to me that President Trump immediately was spot on and understood the question and the time of the day.

20:41 - Speaker 2
Look, it speaks you and I've been with him before and he's boy. Don't we long for the days of mean tweets? Yes, if that's the big national issue is a mean tweet oh man, oh my goodness.

20:54
He has a remarkable ability to read the room, to read you. He has the remarkable ability people are shocked when they hear this, but he is an amazing listener. I remember the first time that I met him I think it was in Miami and I was surprised at how quiet he was in the room as people were talking. He didn't interrupt people, he was gathering data. You could see the gears turning, and once he is determined about something, he's locked on like a missile and we watch him respond accordingly, and this kind of leadership was what we need now today in America, for that matter of the world where it is correct, it's decisive, and he doesn't pull the trigger unless he knows what's going to happen.

21:46 - Speaker 3
He's not a knee-jerk reaction person, and so I'm not surprised, well, but I also added that he has a really solid gut Right. He has, you know, and I don't. I think he's on a spiritual journey, as we all are, but I think you know he has a solid understanding of certain things and particularly issues like this. In the second debate he famously went for the first time we saw a presidential candidate go after the other guy on abortion and say you're the extremist, the fact that you want to rip a little baby, limb by limb, from its mother's womb. No, I'm not for that. You're the extremist. And we're like yep, where's this guy? Look, we've been waiting for this guy and it's Donald Trump, I mean. Who knew?

22:34 - Speaker 2
So watch, let me interrupt this whole thing on this with what you just said. You just hit a nerve that I have and you are so right. Trump just said it. The room went silent. People gasped. Why was that reaction? Thus, it's because he said what everybody was honestly really thinking. How is it?

22:56
Why is it that for some and here I'm a pastor, I'm a Christian, so don't don't read this the wrong way, people but we're at war. It would be easier if we actually had our AR-15s and hand grenades and tanks and airplanes. That would be easier than the war that we're in right now. We're in an invisible war. It's a war of not only, I believe, spiritual dynamic, but the war of words and what is meant. So when Trump responds the way that he does and he gets the magnitude of votes behind him or wins the polls as he is doing, what is happening, what's going on, he is speaking truth. Now I I agree with you. I think he's on a journey, finding out who God might be. We have to work on that more with him. But having said that, I'm not. I already have a savior. I've got a Messiah his name's Jesus.

23:58
When it comes to president, why is it that the Christian community has somehow diluted themselves into thinking that, well, we can't vote for Trump because he's not polite. Well, when is politeness, when it comes to warfare like this, a virtue? I don't understand this. I believe in the fruits of the Holy Spirit, don't get me wrong. But here we are. We've got somebody who's like a Nebuchadnezzar. We've got a Cyrus that acknowledges the God of Abraham, isaac and Jacob makes the right decisions People who read their Bible. We have no evidence for sure that Nebuchadnezzar or Cyrus is in heaven. Yet God calls both of them my servants, and they did the right thing.

24:42
Trump has survived several FBI forensic audits. You and I may not be able to survive that. I may not be able to produce a receipt for a basketball I bought two years ago. Trump survived these. He's gone through impeachment attempts. He survived these. He's still alive today. He's being sued by everybody and their mother, and yet he's surviving. Nobody could survive these types of things, and yet the man is still standing. And having said that, penny, what would you say?

25:19
and then I'll tell you what I would say what would you say to Trump right now If Trump was sitting at this chair over here? President Trump, this is what we would love to hear from you moving into 2024.

25:31 - Speaker 3
Well, I think first and I have said this to him I am so grateful that he understands that he's making promises to the American people and he intends to keep them. That's right.

25:45 - Speaker 2
Seriously.

25:46 - Speaker 3
And I have to tell you I have to admit I'm kind of embarrassed about this, but I kind of had gotten trained by really good Republicans, I mean like George W Bush, who was evangelical that you listen to what they say and then you plan on them falling through them maybe half, because they're gonna get in there in the deep state, and I used to not believe in that, by the way.

26:08 - Speaker 2
Nobody did when we first heard that.

26:09 - Speaker 3
Yeah, I thought that was crazy. I thought that was conspiracy theory. No, it's real. I mean, maybe not in the way some people see it, but certainly there is a group of people who are abroad into the system and the administration, slow roll, everything that the other side tries to do. But what I saw from President Trump is he told you what he was gonna do, including who his Supreme Court justices were gonna be, which, by the way, gave us the overturner of Roe v Wade. He told us that he was gonna move the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, which every president prior said that they would do For 22 years.

26:47
And here's something that a lot of people don't understand. You probably know this Congress passed that law and in order for it to not happen, they had to sign a waiver every six months. So not only all they had to do for it to happen is do nothing, so they actively had to stop it from happening. And so President Trump said I'm gonna move the embassy. And they come to him and like here, sign this. And he's like what's that? And he's like that's the waiver, you can't move the embassy. He's like, but I said I was gonna move the embassy. And then they're like well, you can't do that. The Middle East will burn and the State Department? You know Harpy's all said you can't do it.

27:25 - Speaker 2
Someone in that room said, with all due respect Mr President, you will be starting the Third World War.

27:32 - Speaker 3
That's right. They did tell him that and he said I don't believe that.

27:38
He probably said a little more colorfully than that, and he said I'm signing it this time, but never again. You get it worked out and you get it done, and then we're going to move it. And so I was grateful to have actually been present at the opening of the US Embassy in Jerusalem and watch the Israeli people weep with joy and to celebrate in the streets with Donald Trump's name hanging everywhere, because that meant safety for them. That meant that once again, someone recognized the eternal capital of Israel is Jerusalem, and we know this to be true. And so I guess I would start by and as I have in the past, saying thank you.

28:20
But we also understand and we recognize this and we thank you for this. But we understand we also need to look forward in the future, because we are in troubled times in this country. The economy's in the tank. People are having trouble paying their bills, putting food on their table, Parents no longer believe their children have a brighter future than they had. That's the first time this happens since they've been asking that question in polling. I mean, we really, as a country, have really lost sight of being that shining city on the hill. At the crux of that, I truly believe is the fact that we've allowed this cancer to metastasize in our educational system and we have spent billions of taxpayer dollars paying for ideologies that are absolutely sinful and hurtful and

29:13
anti-American to be used in our campuses all over this country, and even in our elementary schools, as we were just discussing these ideologies. And so what I would say to them is Mr President, what are you gonna do about all these things? What are you gonna do to help us restore America? And I would say, and as I have done, is remind him that we all are under the authority of the King of Kings, and so when I'm with the president or any leader, my prayer is to always point them towards Jesus first, and when we recognize the pecking order of reality, the heavenly pecking order, that God Jesus is king, as they said in Revelation, no king but Jesus. But underneath that, underneath his authority, he places people in authority, which also means Joe Biden at this time, and we need to pray for them, but we also need to work hard to have a righteous leader who can lead us in the direction that will stand within the principles of.

30:17 - Speaker 2
God. Let me say this because some Christians, they just don't get it. You just said we need to get a righteous leader. The, the bubble wrapped Christian says well, sorry, penny, I can't vote for Trump because he's you know his past. They forget about their own past, mind you Right? No, no, penny said a righteous leader. A righteous leader means a leader that does the right thing, not a leader that glows in the dark, walks on water that can raise the dead. Okay, we've got Christ Jesus for this. We are not. Years ago this popped into my head and I'll say it again we're not to be looking for the Messiah to arrive on Air Force One. Okay, that's not going to happen. That's right. But you put Trump's promises up against his actions and what those actions were actually about, and you have Donald J Trump as that righteous leader.

31:23 - Speaker 3
Now I'm going to get hate mail for that, and I love it.

31:25 - Speaker 2
It. Actually, I enjoy that, but try to unpack that. It's a fact and the scripture says I'm loving this verse, I'm studying it, I'm marinating in it. I have to confess I read it probably all my life as a believer never really stopped to think what it meant. 2 Corinthians 10, verse six, says by your obedience obedience to Christ punish all disobedience, and by doing so, your obedience will be commended. Now, how does that? What does that mean? What does that play out? Well, in this republic, we don't go around throwing bombs at our opponents. We vote, we speak up, we go to school board meetings, we honor the Constitution, which gives us the right to be involved. We need to wrap this up. Tragically, we're running low on time, but I want to.

32:20
It's my turn to respond to my question to you about what would you say to President Trump. I would say this I would say President Trump, if I could be your advisor for a moment, I'd say this your track record's already established. We know what you can do it's a matter of fact Regarding your past and who was after you, and Crickard, hillary and the deep state. We get that too. But here's what we need from you If you want to quietly take care of all that mess. Once you're elected, go ahead. More power to you, but right now we've got a whole lot of young people who are real listen, who are real suckers for promises. Right, oh, we'll forgive your school debt, or whatever it might be. Well, mr President, you're the only one that can actually follow through on the promises. Here's what young people need to hear, and you'll have their vote. In fact, this is what we all need to hear, and you'll have our vote. Tell us where you're going to take us. That's why we voted for you in the first place.

33:28
You told us how bad it's been. So you said this is what I'm going to do and we jumped on board. We overlooked your past and the you know we're going to take a risk on Donald J Trump and in 2016, we voted for you, turns out. We were very glad we did, because you took us forward. I think if Trump began to talk forward, like you said a moment ago, here's why. If you're 19 years old, here's why you should vote for me. Or if you're 85 years old, here's why you should vote for me, I think it's.

34:01
I think it would be a slam dunk and somebody's going to say oh, jack and Penny, you guys are so naive, the cheat is overwhelming. Hey, you know what? Let's say? There is a cheat. How do you stop the cheat? There's only one way to stop cheat and that is to turn out in mass. Cheat only works when the numbers are close enough to manipulate. That's right. When a mass group shows up to vote, the cheat won't work. That's right. It's very simple math Overwhelm them, people. You need to show up. First of all. You got to register to vote and then you need to show up and you need to vote. Listen, I'm right now. We're in a cuckoo state called California. We get to vote for months here. Vote as soon as you can Make sure your vote is taken care of, but what are some of the closing words Tell us all about? You know how can people get plugged in and why should they support you? Well, I appreciate that.

34:59 - Speaker 3
Well, let me just say that I think that I just want to finish this one thing about the president. I had a time magazine uh reporter asked me who now works the New York times like, why did a vengeful woman vote 82% for Donald Trump? Don't they know about all the things he did? Like, yeah, I mean, we're all sinners, by the way. Christians recognize we're sinners and we're broken. Um, but we weren't looking for a pastor and we weren't looking for a husband. We were looking for a bodyguard, a guy that would stick the knife in his teeth and swim the moat for us, and that's why we supported him and that's why we will support him again If he can manage to win the primary, and I believe that he will. But I want to say, um, that right now, at concern, women for America, we are working on policy issues and we talked about some of those right now, and I um we are the nation's largest public policy women's organization. We have chapters all over this country.

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Last night Our uh California leader was there Also. We have 250 young women for America chapters and we've been doing pro Israel rallies on their campuses all over this country. What a refreshing antithesis to the hate and the just, the, the evil, uh vapid arguments that have been coming out of the left. We've had these young, beautiful women coming together, prayer vigils, inviting the Jewish students from their campus, praying over them, being there with them, and I've watched these young Jewish students weep and say this is the one I felt the most supported since October 7th on my campus, and so we would love for your listeners to come join what we're doing. Come to concern womenorg, follow us on all the social media channels and, um, it's just great to be here with you.

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It's great to have you. Keep it up, keep standing. Uh, there are several women in my life my wife, obviously, one of them, Uh, and you have that mantle, and that is a Deborah. There's a Deborah spirit from the scriptures who was no doubt Deborah, the woman judge of Israel, but she was a warrior and she even led men into battle and she even deferred to them. She said to them we're going to go into battle and are you guys sure you want me to lead the way? Yes, lead the way.

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Because she was going to get all the credit. And she said you know, I'm going to get the credit for this, Are you sure? And she did.

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And she look, we're talking about her right now, yeah, and so I thank God for you. Yes, thank you For thank God for your entire organization and um women messengers matter in this moment, especially all these issues we've discussed.

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women's voices matter, so we want to train our women, our members and women, your listeners to be able to be more able and more blessed in their ability to share the truth, the truth, the gospel, their policy beliefs and to advocate in the public square.

37:58 - Speaker 2
So all the women watching right now, they need to go to concern womenorg.

38:03 - Speaker 3
Sign up, and we'd love to have you join what we're doing.

38:06 - Speaker 2
And if you're a man watching and you just heard that you can send your money to them Sure Okay.

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Women have money.

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Women sign up and men, you can send money, we'll take it. That's right, that's right. So listen, as always, uh, on our gathering together at these podcasts. It's it's our belief that it's time for you and I to live out what it is that we believe in. It's time for us to live real life. So, God bless you guys, until next time.

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