The Trojan Horse Has Arrived

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Okay, so the plan was this, to have you come out and to speak, because I had a commitment, maybe we can talk about it later, a clandestine commitment that I had to be at.

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You were so graciously hospitable to say yes to my invitation to come and speak in our pulpit.

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You did that, and you have blown up.

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on the internet regarding the things that you were saying.

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And I thought we'd take the time right now for us to just talk about that and a whole lot more if you're okay with that.

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I'm okay.

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I'll tell you something though, Jack.

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When you say you want me to come to take your pulpit, I jump.

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But when you say, I want you to go political, I really run the other way.

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I am not political.

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I'm a pacifist.

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We're brethren in Christ.

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This is true.

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That's right.

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And so when you said you want me to go political, I said, I've run away from politics because I'm a theologian.

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I'm a historian.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And yet Matthew then said, no, he really wants you to do politics and he really wants you to confront these politicians, these Muslim politicians.

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There you go.

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That's the motive.

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And so that's what, and so I said, okay, I'll do it.

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But there's, you're not, you're going to have a lot of back, huge, enormous bout of people who are going to confront this.

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Yeah.

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So that's exactly what's happened, I think, in the last week, because we're now a week later.

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Well, let me ask you this.

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And I totally forgot about the brethren.

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I got it.

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That makes sense.

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Yeah.

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But now, since you've delivered that message and since I think it hit a million within a few days, viewers, and increasing, put in the numbers aside, how do you think it went?

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It was a little bit outside your comfort zone, but you delivered this, in my opinion, a perfect message.

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You hit the ball out of the park.

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How do you think it went?

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Yes.

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Well, obviously, there's a reaction.

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I knew there would be a reaction.

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I think it went fine because this is something that we need now.

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No one really has said what we said, what I said last Wednesday.

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Exactly.

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And it has to be said because we need to wake up here in America.

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I saw this same pattern happen in Britain.

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I was there for 25 years.

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And we've seen the same thing happening in Europe.

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Now it's coming to America.

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And what people don't realize is the pattern that Islam is using in the United States is

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is the same pattern that their prophet muhammad used and it's it's it's called the three stages of dahwa so it's well known if you're in radical circles and i work with radical muslims sheikh umar bakri muhammad was my uh was my friend in in london and he was the one that was thrown out of syria he came to britain and at britain as it is welcomed him with open arms he tried to overthrow the government in syria to begin with to create an islamic state there and

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They gave him a place to stay.

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They gave him a car.

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They pretty much put him a stipend for it to live on.

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And so he started an Islamic court, an Islamic school there in Tottenham in northern London.

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And I got to see him because every time when I was on university campuses engaging with the Muslim students, which I did, I would go to these Islamic societies and there may be 20 or 30 students.

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When he came on campus, it would jump to 200 to 300.

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I said, this guy has substance.

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So I started following him.

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And what I found he did, everywhere he went, no matter what he said, he always housed it in Scripture.

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Scripture meaning the Quran.

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The Quran.

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He always supported whatever he said in scripture, and he always looked at Muhammad's example to show how it's to be done in Britain.

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Well, no wonder he was so popular, because we understand that as Christians more so than anybody else.

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Because that's what you do when you get up on a pulpit.

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You have the Bible there, you read from scripture, and you quote what's there, and then you apply it to our lives today.

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Yeah.

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So if we understand that, we can see just how powerful people like this are.

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The West of the world does not understand that.

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They're confused by these injunctions.

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But see, when I saw him doing that, I went up to meet him and I wanted to get to know him.

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So he invited me to his school.

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And after a few months, and I went to his school in Tottenham, and this is how he introduced me to his students.

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He said, this is my favorite Christian, but this will be the first man I kill when Islam comes to London.

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Of course.

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Comes to Britain.

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Now, it didn't bother me.

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Which is a real honor, Jay.

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What's that?

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That's a real honor.

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It is an honor.

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And I saw that this guy was being absolutely honest.

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And that's why I like guys like that.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Because they are like us.

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They're very similar to us.

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They like scripture.

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We like scripture.

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They follow a model.

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We follow a model.

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Yeah.

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So we know exactly where they're going to go with this.

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And he used to say, and I would follow him as he went to the different institutions.

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He would say, when you look at Muhammad's life, there are three stages to Muhammad's life.

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There is the Meccan stage where he was a minority.

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He did not have any control.

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He was not part of the political structure.

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And all he did is what we call the pen stage or the tongue stage.

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I mean, she just wrote things.

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She just received.

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Well, he didn't write anything, actually.

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He was his secretary, Zaid Ibn Thabit.

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But he then received it and then he would recite it.

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from the angel Gabriel.

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And that's all he did.

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If you look at the Quran and you just divide it in half, the second part of the Quran is the Meccan material that he received from 610 to 622.

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So that's the pen stage, no authority, you're a minority, you are abused by the majority.

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And then he moved to Medina in 622.

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Once he moved to Medina, invited by the Ansar there to arbitrate between the Ansar and the Jews who control all the commerce,

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For the next two years, he then started imposing the what we call the scale.

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So this is the laws and institutions.

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Yeah, wow.

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And this is known as, well, he started imposing what he called the Constitution of Medina.

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And he was the arbiter between man and God.

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No Jew would sign it, like you would not sign it.

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Exactly.

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I wouldn't sign it.

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Nobody can be my arbiter, but God himself.

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So they refused to sign it, and yet he was now imposing it on them.

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As a guest from Mecca, he was there in Medina, and that was the next two years from 622 to 624.

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So what Sheikh Mubakri would say is, we're in Britain right now.

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Let's just say we are in what he calls Dal Arharap.

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Which means house of war.

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House of war.

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But we come from Dar al-Islam.

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Yeah.

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So when you leave Dar al-Islam and come to Dar al-Arhab, you are a minority.

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In the war.

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You're in a context of war.

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In a context of war, you say whatever they want you to say.

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And this is true in universal Islam globally, right?

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Absolutely.

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Every Muslim is taught this.

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They're all taught.

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Well, no.

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All the Orthodox Muslims are taught this.

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All Orthodox Muslims?

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Nominal Muslims don't know dili swat about this.

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Seriously?

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That's why you have to go to those who are in charge.

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You have to go to the opinion leaders.

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You have to go to those like Yasir Qadhi, who was here in Dallas at the Epic City.

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He's the one that created the Epic City.

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I was just there two weeks ago.

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He is the one that unpacks it for the United States.

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I went to Sheikh Omar Bakri to unpack it for Britain way back in the 1990s.

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When you go to Dar al-Harv, Jack, you are a minority.

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You know your minority.

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So therefore, what you do, you align yourself with whoever is...

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going to be in power.

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So what the Muslims are doing now here in the United States, people like Mamdani and Saeed out of Dearborn and Rashid Tlaib out of Detroit, and also Ilham Omar.

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Those four, let's look at those four.

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They are in what they call Dar al-Haab.

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When they are in Dar al-Haab, they can pretty much say whatever you want to hear.

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So they're very much on the left.

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They're very much pro-socialism.

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They're saying they are pro-LGBT, they are pro-abortion.

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No Muslim would be those two.

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No, but I'm assuming, sorry to interrupt, but I'm assuming, right, when they are in the state of war by immigration into the United States, as our example where we're at, that they will leverage homosexuality.

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They will leverage abortion or marriage, divorce, whatever, to help, what, tear apart the fabric, to use it as a part of the art of war, to bring in

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instability, even though they don't believe it.

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They don't believe it.

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When you're at war, CIA, whatever, Musaad, whoever, you will say and do anything.

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Okay, be careful here.

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With these four, I'm not sure they even know what we've just said.

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They really do believe in socialism.

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They really, especially Mamdani, he's grown up, his father was an academic.

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He was very much on the left, so he's been

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spoon-fed left ideology.

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He is a Muslim.

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But Yasir Qadhi explains.

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Wow.

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Yasir Qadhi says, we loved it when Mamdani won.

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This was a game changer, he said.

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Why?

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Because we use him because he brings the Muslim vote.

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True.

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So therefore, even though he... And he did.

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Even though he supports a LGB agenda, he supports the whole thing with abortion, which we as Muslims do not agree with.

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Yeah.

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We need the Democratic Party.

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We need them.

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Wait, the Democratic Party?

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Because it's what?

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Can I say this?

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Is this too mean to say?

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Because the position of the Democrat Party's...

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This is what I say.

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We need them as useful idiots.

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I was going to say that's exactly what I was going to say.

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That's what we call it.

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This is using useful idiots because they have no idea how to rule.

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They have no idea who God is.

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They're all as secular as you could get.

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Therefore, we can come in as accomplices and we will support their agenda.

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5%, then we get to 25%.

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Once we get to 51%, then we'll say, goodbye.

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We don't need you anymore.

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Thank you.

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And pretty much this is what happened in Iran.

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Look what happened in Iran when Ayatollah came in 1979 from Paris.

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He was invited by the secular president at that time.

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With, by the way, I learned recently with a lot of help behind the scenes by the British government.

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The British government, but who are the ones who took over our embassy and paraded all of the American officials blindfolded?

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Those were all leftist students.

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Wow.

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They are all students on the left.

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444 days.

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They were all exactly who the Mamdani's and the Saeeds and Ilham Omar's and the Rashid Tlaibs were.

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They were the ones clapping and clapping and saying, now we're going to get rid of this conservatism.

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We want the left to, we want the left.

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They thought that they were bringing the left agenda.

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What they didn't realize is that Ayatollah Khomeini had a completely different agenda.

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So when he came within a few months to introduce the IRGC, the Islamic Republican Guard, what was that guard for?

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To bring in the Mahdi.

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And this is something people don't understand.

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Shia Islam is completely different than Sunni Islam.

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They have completely different agendas.

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Sunni Islam is not interested in destroying Israel.

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Look and show me.

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Show me any country in the Sunni world who wants to destroy Israel and have nuclear weapons to do so.

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What would be some of the more predominant Sunni?

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Well, look at MBS.

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Probably the most predominant is MBS himself, Mohammed bin Salman, the Saudi prince.

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Who is realizing, and as every Sunni, especially in the Middle East, they're realizing that everybody's moving away from oil.

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If you're moving away from oil, you've got to diversify.

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That's right.

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That's why he's created the NOAM project.

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He's created now.

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He now has brought the four largest international sports.

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He controls them now with LAV's golf and professional boxing.

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Grand Prix.

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Grand Prix, the Formula One.

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And now he is trying to control world soccer.

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with people like Cristiano Ronaldo and Neymar, huge salaries so that they can control these areas of entertainment.

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He is now instituting four large universities, two in Riyadh, one in Jeddah, one is gonna be in Aqaba.

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That's what means you're gonna have to bring in an awful lot of Westerners.

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You're gonna have to bring an awful lot of researchers.

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You're gonna have to bring an awful lot of academics and sportsmen.

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If in order to do that, you're gonna have to change some of the laws and institutions that exist in Saudi Arabia.

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So what he said, if you look back about four years ago, he was asked this very question.

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How can you bring all these Westerners in here with all these rules and regulations that stymie them?

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You can't drink, you can't drive, and all the rest.

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He said, our Constitution is the Qur'an.

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And anything that stands against the Quran, we throw out.

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In that one statement, he threw out 80% of all the traditions.

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Because you go to the traditions to know how to walk, talk, eat, drink, and sleep.

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You don't go to the Quran.

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The Quran says very little about how you're to act.

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It's all in the sirah, the tafsir, the takhriq, and the hadith.

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Those four genres.

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And he threw that almost 80%.

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Now, most of the world didn't look at it, but the Muslim world did.

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And I was sitting there watching all these people who were throwing, pulling their hair.

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He says, what has he done?

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He's destroying Islam.

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And see, because for him, he wants to, basically, he wants Saudi Arabia to come into the West.

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That's why the Abrahamic Accords.

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He also knows he's running out of oil.

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That's it.

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And that's why the Abrahamic Accords are a genius by Kushner.

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Because in order to do that, in order to diversify, in order to grant your own future, you need to have an awful lot of financial investment.

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Yeah.

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Once you run out of oil, who's going to continue subsidizing all of this material and all these people and institutions?

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You've got to go to the West.

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How?

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And who are the people that have the biggest pockets in the West?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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God bless the Jews.

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They have been.

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It's true.

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It's true.

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Whether you like it or not, you may hate that idea.

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They work hard and they're not dumb.

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God has blessed them.

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And you can see, look at them.

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They are the ones that control our, the Hollywood industry here.

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They're the ones that control many of our banks.

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They control much of our academic institutions.

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Because they are so successful, you've got to go to them.

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How do you get to them?

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You have to go through Israel.

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Yeah, so true.

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You've got to have Israel.

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That's why the Abrahamic accords were brilliant.

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Wow.

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Now can you see why the Sunnis do not want Iran?

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Yeah.

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Because not only do they have a theological difficulty with them, for 1,400 years they've been at each other's throats.

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True.

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But they realize that their whole future is tied up in Israel.

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And Iran wants to destroy Israel.

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Using the Hezbollah, the Hamas, and the Houthis.

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Yeah.

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The three H's.

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But Hamas is not Shiite.

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Hamas is actually Sunni.

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Wow.

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See, because the moment of thinking this through, you've got to look at this divide.

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Now, let's back up and say, what are we talking about?

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See, the Shiites have a special, they have an apocalyptic vision that the Sunnis don't have.

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The Shias believe in the 12 imams.

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You've heard of this.

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And starting with Ali, Hussein coming on down, all the way down to Al-Hassan, who is the 11th.

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in 874 he dies now whenever you die your son takes over because it it has to for the shiites the mantle of the prophet has to come in the line of the prophet has to come from father to the son father to the son all the way down to the 11th he dies in 874 his son is only four years old he was born in 870 and he is the uh he is the mahdi known as the mahdi because he goes into occultation allah comes and puts him to sleep

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And he stays asleep until now.

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Where is he asleep?

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Exactly.

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You would like to know, wouldn't you?

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I'd like to know, wouldn't I?

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So Ahmadinejad is the one who is going to introduce him.

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Really?

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But Ahmadinejad was killed on February 28th.

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Yeah, bye bye.

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Bye bye.

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So the Ayatollah, when he came from Paris, here to, there to Tehran, one of the first things he said, if you look at his speeches, we are going to bring back the Mahdi, the 12th Imam.

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He's been in occultation, he's been asleep for 1100 years.

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Now stop and shake your head and say, hold on a minute.

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This sounds a little fishy, doesn't it?

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Can you understand why Sunnis don't believe this?

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Yeah, yeah.

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And Sunnis are saying, are you listening to this?

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Wow.

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This makes no sense, does it?

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But for every Shiite, this is absolutely sense.

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They believe that the Mahdi will return.

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And when the Mahdi returns, he will destroy the great Satan.

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And the great Satan, according to Ayatollahs, every Ayatollah in the last 47 years has said the great Satan is Israel.

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We've got to destroy Israel.

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Yeah.

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Well, how do you destroy Israel?

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You have to have nuclear weapons.

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That's why they're the only ones that want nuclear weapons.

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None of the Sunnis are looking for it.

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They don't care about it.

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The last thing they want in the world is to have Israel nuked.

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Because there goes their whole future.

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Yeah.

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Isn't it amazing?

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Because we don't... You mentioned earlier we're talking about politics.

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It's funny because you said you're not political.

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Believe it or not...

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But I am theological, and this is theological.

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And here's the thing.

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I'm not political.

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I'm theological.

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And because of that being true, I see no area of this world in my life that's exempt from the gospel infiltration.

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There you go.

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What's the term that you... Stop right there, right there.

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What you have just said, if a Muslim's listening to you, I hope you're listening to Jack.

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Because for a Muslim, that's the same paradigm they start with.

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They look at the entire world as impacted by Islam.

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How they walk, talk, eat, drink, sleep is impacted.

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They bring the mosque and the state together.

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Yes.

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Now we separate the two.

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We separate.

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That's why we have a hard time.

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For me especially, not so much you.

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You love politics more than I do.

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I am over here on God's side, not Caesar's side.

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But I'm realizing guys like you bring the two better together than I do.

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So I have to come to you to ask your permission when I do this.

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I see the enemies of my country.

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Thus, my freedom to preach the gospel is connected to, or I should say this way.

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You and I are going to preach the gospel even if we're in prison.

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That said, we'd rather not be in prison to preach it.

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There are...

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There's the realm of politics that will either take away my rights to preach the gospel or protect those rights.

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You and I live in a constitutional republic founded by our founding fathers, who their understanding of Scripture and politics, the key person Samuel Adams, they understood, wait a minute, we have to enshrine and protect...

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man's ability to proclaim, speak freely, freedom of the press, freedom of religion.

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To do that, we need to use politics and laws to keep those God-given rights free.

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That's how they understood it.

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I love that.

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That said...

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What has caused me, Jay, to get even more into the fight is when an invader comes to seize upon the liberty and freedoms that we enjoy, I will say passively, they take on a militant role.

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engaging passion to use the very same laws that bring me freedom, they wanna circumnavigate those laws and bring upon me captivity.

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Okay, now we're coming back to Muhammad again.

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So you're speaking of what happened in Medina between 622 and 624.

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When he created and he said, I am gonna be the arbitrary to man and God.

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Why?

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Because God institutes laws and institutions that we have no right to change.

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Man will create all kinds of havoc if given their ways, what he's saying.

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And we understand that part as Christians.

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We can follow what's going on better than almost all the secular world can understand.

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And I hope the secular world is listening to us.

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Yes.

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Because you need to follow what the Muslims are saying.

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So if he comes to Medina, which is a foreign country to him, a foreign city.

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Yeah.

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And he puts himself up as the arbiter between man and God, creates the Medina, a Constituent of Medina.

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He then dictates those laws, and those laws are all Sharia law.

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That's where Sharia law comes in.

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That's why the second stage has the scale.

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The scale.

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Now, once he did that, the Jews rejected that.

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And so in the Battle of Badr in 624, when he went with 300 men and destroyed 1,000 men, came back, the Jews had not supported him.

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He threw out the Banu Kanuka family.

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He says, you are no good.

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I'm throwing you out.

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You didn't help me.

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A year later, they had a second battle called the Battle of Uhud in 625.

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At that battle, he lost the battle, almost was killed.

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He was gravely wounded.

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The Banu Nadir did not come to help him, so he then threw them out of Medina up to Chaybar in the north.

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Mm-hmm.

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Two years later, you have the third battle, the Battle of the Trenches.

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In this battle, neither side won, but the Banu Korayza family, the largest Jewish family there, the last remaining Jewish family, did not support him in that battle.

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As a result, he went and attacked them.

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They lived in their own fort outside of Medina.

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And after 21 days, they finally gave up.

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He then took every one of those men, 800 men in groups of 10 and slit their throats.

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He did?

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He did.

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He did himself.

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Well, not himself, himself.

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His men did, but he was there watching it happen.

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So he demanded that this happen.

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So he slit their throats, 800 men, took all the women as concubines for his men and the children as slaves, which means within five years of moving to Medina, he had pretty much eradicated all the Jews.

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Now I have a name for that.

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I call that genocide.

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That is genocide.

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You see, there's no other way to say it.

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So if that is their model, and when they come to United States or they come to Europe or they come to Dat Al-Harv, which they're coming in their droves now, especially as refugees, these politicians are doing exactly what Mohammed did.

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You start with politics.

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You get power.

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You use useful idiots.

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In this case, the Democratic Party.

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And there's a whole lot of them in the Democrat Party.

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And they're clapping, clapping, clapping.

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And half the Republican Party.

429
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That's unfortunate, but they, Republicans need to listen because you see if the, if you don't wake up, you're going to have the same problem that we're having in Britain right now.

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And I watched it happen in Britain.

431
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And the first thing they do is once they get in that, uh, into power, they have, we have 10 cities now in Britain that are now have Muslim mayors, including London itself.

432
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And then they are now instituting all these rules and regulations.

433
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You remember the incitement to religious hatred law that they tried to get in in 2000, is this 2006 or 2007?

434
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I was there when that was happening.

435
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That was a law that was instituted, which you're going to have now with this AB 1803 that they want to do.

436
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And that is hate.

437
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Yeah.

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Hatred law, law of hatred speech.

439
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You're speaking hate if you criticize or...

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If you criticize anybody or anything, that's another belief.

441
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Well, this was the incitement to religious hatred law, which stipulated you cannot confront Muhammad, you cannot confront the Quran.

442
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Now, those are the two things I do all the time.

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That's right.

444
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And if you do, and you would be incarcerated for seven years in Britain.

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That went back and forth between the House of Parliament and the House of Lords three times.

446
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It was finally brought back to the House of Parliament for its final vote.

447
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Tony Blair, seeing what was going on, stepped outside the door so his vote would not count, and it lost by one vote.

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That's how close we came to basically shutting down freedom of speech.

449
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But what about most recently?

450
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Hasn't London gone, the UK, haven't they passed something just rather recently?

451
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Okay, now what they've done is they've tried to enlarge on Islamophobia.

452
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On what does Islamophobia mean?

453
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Notice it's only on Islamophobia.

454
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Yeah, and what's, can I, Jay, sorry to interrupt.

455
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What's wrong with Islamophobia?

456
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Well, again.

457
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I don't know.

458
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I don't have any problem with it because- In fact, you are an Islamophobe, aren't you?

459
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I am.

460
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I am too.

461
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I'm not stupid.

462
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I wear it like a badge.

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I'm absolutely fearful of Islam.

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I'm fearful what they do to women, what they do to children, what they do to culture, what they do to communities.

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Absolutely, I'm phobic, but I love Muslims.

466
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Absolutely.

467
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See the distinction?

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Completely.

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I do not.

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And I'm absolutely fearful of the religion.

471
00:23:44.842 --> 00:23:47.683
And I love the people because of what the religion does to the people.

472
00:23:47.983 --> 00:23:48.503
Oh my gosh.

473
00:23:48.543 --> 00:23:49.263
And that's why-

474
00:23:50.123 --> 00:23:52.526
wear the Islamophobia badge as a badge.

475
00:23:52.546 --> 00:23:55.308
They say, of course I'm Islamophobic, and so should you.

476
00:23:55.809 --> 00:23:58.712
A person thinking correctly should be.

477
00:24:00.193 --> 00:24:03.777
Forget about the word Islam, which in and of itself means...

478
00:24:04.838 --> 00:24:05.739
I'm paraphrasing.

479
00:24:06.239 --> 00:24:07.120
You better submit.

480
00:24:07.461 --> 00:24:08.822
It's submission and obedience, yeah.

481
00:24:08.862 --> 00:24:13.146
I mean, if you bring up the word submit, it also implies you better submit.

482
00:24:13.166 --> 00:24:16.870
In this case, it always—and then there's a prophet example again.

483
00:24:17.070 --> 00:24:23.036
Yeah, so that said, people thinking rightly should be concerned about that.

484
00:24:23.616 --> 00:24:29.102
But there's a weird—I don't want to get too goofy, but these things—

485
00:24:30.815 --> 00:24:33.776
There are spiritual entities behind these doctrines.

486
00:24:34.257 --> 00:24:42.101
Jesus, the scriptures, the apostles warned us that in the last days, and I say this and I usually get pushback and I love it.

487
00:24:44.362 --> 00:24:50.945
When you look at the scriptures and when you look at the Bible and the Bible warning us in Galatians 1, for example, that...

488
00:24:51.737 --> 00:24:59.963
Beware of even those who might come to you preaching another gospel or an angel that comes down from heaven preaching another gospel.

489
00:25:00.463 --> 00:25:02.865
Let him be Maranatha Anathema.

490
00:25:02.965 --> 00:25:06.247
Let him be taken away to the damnation.

491
00:25:07.448 --> 00:25:10.250
That was all intact for the Christian church.

492
00:25:11.911 --> 00:25:15.554
So much so that I always mention Islam in this context.

493
00:25:16.454 --> 00:25:19.677
As a cult, it's relatively new.

494
00:25:20.792 --> 00:25:21.673
People don't want to hear that.

495
00:25:21.713 --> 00:25:33.572
When you match the age of Islam to the Jewish scriptures, the Hebrew scriptures, when you match the age of Islam to the Gospels, the first century, third century,

496
00:25:35.736 --> 00:25:36.917
Islam is relatively new.

497
00:25:37.278 --> 00:25:38.679
1,400 years.

498
00:25:38.699 --> 00:25:39.200
1,400 years.

499
00:25:39.260 --> 00:25:42.903
And even their revelation is not 1,400 years.

500
00:25:42.963 --> 00:25:44.004
It's more like 1,200 years.

501
00:25:44.145 --> 00:25:44.805
Well, you.

502
00:25:44.925 --> 00:25:46.627
Their prophet.

503
00:25:47.168 --> 00:25:49.810
That's where you are rocking the world.

504
00:25:49.850 --> 00:25:50.751
This is my area.

505
00:25:51.011 --> 00:25:52.153
This is what I love to talk about.

506
00:25:52.173 --> 00:25:53.434
I thought that's what we were going to talk about.

507
00:25:53.454 --> 00:25:53.874
Let's talk.

508
00:25:53.914 --> 00:25:54.195
Tell me.

509
00:25:54.255 --> 00:25:54.815
Please help me.

510
00:25:55.076 --> 00:25:56.217
Because I was traveling.

511
00:25:56.237 --> 00:25:56.677
You were here.

512
00:25:56.757 --> 00:25:57.278
I missed it.

513
00:25:57.878 --> 00:26:02.361
Before we go, can we just say to the camera, please, folks, please, folks, this is an agenda.

514
00:26:02.381 --> 00:26:03.482
We're in the first stage.

515
00:26:03.502 --> 00:26:04.623
This is called the tongue stage.

516
00:26:04.643 --> 00:26:06.164
This is called the pen stage.

517
00:26:06.584 --> 00:26:09.306
We are going to soon move into the second stage.

518
00:26:09.326 --> 00:26:10.227
That's already happening.

519
00:26:10.247 --> 00:26:10.747
Rapidly.

520
00:26:10.908 --> 00:26:12.228
It's happened in Kosovo.

521
00:26:12.549 --> 00:26:14.830
It's happening in Nigeria, where I'm going to be next month.

522
00:26:15.151 --> 00:26:17.912
They're taking over Nigeria using those three stages.

523
00:26:18.073 --> 00:26:18.293
Yeah.

524
00:26:18.793 --> 00:26:20.635
And it's quickly becoming a Muslim nation.

525
00:26:20.715 --> 00:26:24.418
And so that's why we've got to have it, make sure it does not happen here in America.

526
00:26:24.758 --> 00:26:27.420
Now let's move over into the historical problem you're talking about.

527
00:26:28.101 --> 00:26:33.005
So when you say these things, Jack, when you say, did Muhammad exist, people are going to react.

528
00:26:33.165 --> 00:26:34.366
I get reaction all the time.

529
00:26:34.746 --> 00:26:37.388
Because people have that knee-jerk response.

530
00:26:37.788 --> 00:26:39.850
That was asked of us about Jesus back in the 1800s.

531
00:26:39.910 --> 00:26:42.392
And we know good and well Jesus did exist.

532
00:26:42.592 --> 00:26:44.734
But why do we know good and well he existed?

533
00:26:44.754 --> 00:26:45.935
Because he was written about.

534
00:26:46.583 --> 00:27:03.425
Not only by those who were there, eyewitnesses, by John and Matthew who are eyewitnesses, and those who got it from the eyewitnesses, Mark and Luke, and then Peter and Paul, all the others, but by others who hated him, like Tacitus, who's Roman, who hated the Christians, or Thallus and Phlegon, who were Greek, who wrote about his death,

535
00:27:03.905 --> 00:27:09.168
20 years in 52 AD, 20 years after he died, they talked about the day he died.

536
00:27:09.388 --> 00:27:12.130
Or Josephus, who is a Greek historian.

537
00:27:12.330 --> 00:27:18.554
So you have Greek, Roman, and Jewish historians referring to him by name, talking about his death on the cross.

538
00:27:18.874 --> 00:27:21.275
So historically speaking, we can support him.

539
00:27:21.535 --> 00:27:24.657
Now ask the same question of Muhammad.

540
00:27:25.898 --> 00:27:32.642
I would love to ask that question with a little addition regarding Jesus versus Muhammad.

541
00:27:34.783 --> 00:27:53.639
The Old Testament is written about Jesus, names his birthplace 700 years in advance, tells you that in 743 years before the birth of Christ, that a virgin will conceive and bring forth a child, that this one is going to be Proverbs 30 verse 4.

542
00:27:54.079 --> 00:27:55.640
God says, what's my name?

543
00:27:56.041 --> 00:27:57.462
And what is the name of my son?

544
00:27:57.482 --> 00:27:58.283
If you can tell me,

545
00:27:59.517 --> 00:28:05.318
Psalmist, 1,000 years before Christ is born, the Messiah will be crucified in his hands and his feet.

546
00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:12.220
There's no previous prophetic writings of Muhammad and this, right?

547
00:28:12.440 --> 00:28:14.021
Going through- Well, it gets even worse than that.

548
00:28:14.341 --> 00:28:20.562
In the Quran itself, there are two places, chapter seven, verse 157 and chapter 61, verse seven.

549
00:28:20.962 --> 00:28:23.323
It says, there is this prophet, Ahmed.

550
00:28:23.423 --> 00:28:28.084
So that's the denominative of Muhammad, the Ahmed, who can neither read or write.

551
00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:34.264
Who will be referred to in both, and I'm paraphrasing, both the Taurat and the Injil.

552
00:28:34.525 --> 00:28:44.874
So they've got, not only is it, that's the only prophecy of this man, but they have to find it in both the Torah, which is the Taurat, and the Injil, which would be the Gospels.

553
00:28:45.475 --> 00:28:50.900
So they go to Deuteronomy 18, they go to Song of Solomon 516, and they go to John chapter 14.

554
00:28:50.940 --> 00:28:51.861
They go to the Bible.

555
00:28:52.121 --> 00:28:52.542
In the Bible.

556
00:28:52.862 --> 00:28:53.563
The Jewish Bible.

557
00:28:54.123 --> 00:29:19.750
our bible our bible because john 14 and 16. true that includes us as well so both the jewish and the in jail and over guys it is laughable when you look at every study the rest of it junei 18 is probably the best go and open it up in chapter of chapter 18 and start it's they go to june verse 18 which is for their god is speaking to moses there will be someone who comes from your line like you

558
00:29:20.650 --> 00:29:21.351
And that's where they stop.

559
00:29:21.371 --> 00:29:22.592
They don't read the second half part of it.

560
00:29:22.713 --> 00:29:23.714
From amongst your brothers.

561
00:29:23.954 --> 00:29:24.855
Yes.

562
00:29:24.875 --> 00:29:25.696
Him you will hear.

563
00:29:25.997 --> 00:29:27.318
Him you will listen to.

564
00:29:27.639 --> 00:29:28.420
And then what does it say?

565
00:29:29.121 --> 00:29:32.405
Be careful of anybody who comes not in my name.

566
00:29:32.986 --> 00:29:35.208
That's why you need to read verse 19 and 20 to the Muslims.

567
00:29:35.228 --> 00:29:35.549
Yeah.

568
00:29:35.869 --> 00:29:39.933
And he, if they come in the name of another God, what are you supposed to do?

569
00:29:40.353 --> 00:29:41.254
Put them to death.

570
00:29:41.294 --> 00:29:44.056
So I put Muhammad to death if you're going to claim that's him.

571
00:29:44.256 --> 00:29:46.558
You've got to read all 18, 19, and 20.

572
00:29:46.758 --> 00:29:49.180
So just open scripture for them and just read it to them.

573
00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:59.749
A Muslim would not appreciate another, I'm assuming, Jay, a Muslim would not appreciate another Muslim randomly, recreationally reading the Quran.

574
00:29:59.769 --> 00:30:02.672
I would think that you're encouraged to read all of it.

575
00:30:04.906 --> 00:30:21.705
With that in mind, or that assumption of what I'm saying, if they're going to come on over and cite our scriptures, then why would they not read the entire Bible from cover to cover?

576
00:30:22.321 --> 00:30:25.083
They have and they don't like it, so therefore they say it's been corrupted.

577
00:30:25.724 --> 00:30:32.890
So what they would say, and Muslims have been, this was only created in 1056 by a man named Ibn Hazm.

578
00:30:32.950 --> 00:30:34.391
Muhammad died in 632.

579
00:30:34.451 --> 00:30:39.095
You're talking about 300 to 400 years later, somebody finally read our Bible.

580
00:30:39.376 --> 00:30:41.397
Ibn Hazm is what he's been credited for that.

581
00:30:41.778 --> 00:30:44.980
When he reads the Bible, he sees there's contradiction after contradiction after contradiction.

582
00:30:45.241 --> 00:30:46.622
So therefore, what's your conclusion?

583
00:30:46.902 --> 00:30:47.983
Ah, the Bible's been corrupted.

584
00:30:48.323 --> 00:30:50.626
That idea is not anywhere in any of the traditions.

585
00:30:50.646 --> 00:30:53.408
There's no reference to corruption in all of the traditions.

586
00:30:53.428 --> 00:30:54.810
There's no reference in the Quran.

587
00:30:55.110 --> 00:30:56.712
In fact, the Quran says just the opposite.

588
00:30:57.012 --> 00:30:58.593
And this is the dilemma for Muslims.

589
00:30:59.074 --> 00:31:04.820
Because if the Quran is the word of God and it's eternal, it's never been changed, no one can change even one word.

590
00:31:04.840 --> 00:31:06.701
That's in chapter 10, verse 15.

591
00:31:06.741 --> 00:31:08.123
That's in chapter 18, verse 20.

592
00:31:08.223 --> 00:31:10.125
Which the Bible preceded that statement.

593
00:31:10.590 --> 00:31:11.030
Absolutely.

594
00:31:11.450 --> 00:31:16.813
If that is the case, then where, then the Quran should be full of references to this corruption, not one.

595
00:31:17.173 --> 00:31:19.034
In 45 years, they can't come up.

596
00:31:19.054 --> 00:31:20.354
In fact, it says just the opposite.

597
00:31:20.734 --> 00:31:26.697
If you have any question, O Muslims, go to the people of the scriptures and ask them, for they have been given the taurit and the injil.

598
00:31:26.717 --> 00:31:29.718
That's chapter 10, verse 94, chapter 21, verse seven.

599
00:31:30.138 --> 00:31:33.680
O Muslims, go to those scriptures I have given you, the taurit, the injil.

600
00:31:33.860 --> 00:31:35.421
That's in chapter four, verse 136.

601
00:31:35.441 --> 00:31:36.121
Do they do that?

602
00:31:36.401 --> 00:31:38.222
They have to, because the Quran demands it.

603
00:31:38.802 --> 00:31:39.763
It may say it, but do they?

604
00:31:39.783 --> 00:31:40.443
This is the problem.

605
00:31:40.683 --> 00:31:45.247
Once they do, they scour their Quran to find out any reference for corruption.

606
00:31:45.627 --> 00:31:48.309
You can't find it except for chapter 2, verse 79.

607
00:31:48.649 --> 00:31:52.192
I can unpack that for you because that is a fun one, but it would take me about 10 minutes.

608
00:31:52.452 --> 00:31:53.073
Go, do it.

609
00:31:53.233 --> 00:32:04.121
Well, Jack, the only place that they could really justifiably go to to find any possible hint of corruption is chapter 2, verse 79, which says, Beware of those Jews who write with their own hands and call it the book.

610
00:32:04.541 --> 00:32:09.064
Now on face value, that sounds like the Jews have written something and they've written something other than the book.

611
00:32:09.624 --> 00:32:12.466
You need to go to the verse before chapter two, verse 78.

612
00:32:12.946 --> 00:32:15.767
There are those Jews who know not the book.

613
00:32:15.927 --> 00:32:17.108
That means they don't know scripture.

614
00:32:17.608 --> 00:32:22.291
They, but guess, beware of those Jews who write with their own hand and call it the book.

615
00:32:22.491 --> 00:32:24.072
So what Jews are we talking about?

616
00:32:24.312 --> 00:32:27.394
And obviously this is not scripture because they know not the book.

617
00:32:28.188 --> 00:32:30.812
What do they write with their own hand that's above and beyond the book?

618
00:32:31.292 --> 00:32:32.914
This is known as the Talmud and the Mishnah.

619
00:32:33.175 --> 00:32:33.715
Exactly.

620
00:32:33.735 --> 00:32:35.418
These are the apocryphal of writings.

621
00:32:36.098 --> 00:32:37.721
Now this is where it really gets juicy.

622
00:32:38.422 --> 00:32:41.726
If that's the case, what it's saying is beware of those apocryphal accounts.

623
00:32:42.287 --> 00:32:45.130
Beware of those Jews who write bedtime tales for their children.

624
00:32:45.711 --> 00:32:50.316
Look at chapter 5, verse 32 of the Quran, where you have the story of Cain and Abel.

625
00:32:50.636 --> 00:32:51.457
He kills his brother.

626
00:32:52.198 --> 00:32:52.939
This is verse 31.

627
00:32:53.059 --> 00:32:57.523
He doesn't know what to do with his brother, so he buries him like following the example of a raven.

628
00:32:57.964 --> 00:33:01.047
Well, that's from the targum of Jonathan Ben Uzziah.

629
00:33:01.067 --> 00:33:01.928
It comes straight out.

630
00:33:02.549 --> 00:33:06.453
It's not in our Bible, but it was written in the second century basically for the children.

631
00:33:06.973 --> 00:33:17.680
And then you have the famous verse, verse 32, which says, O children of Israel, for he who takes the blood of one, it's if he takes the blood of all, but he who saves the blood of one, it's if he saves the blood of all.

632
00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:20.802
Which is, most Muslims say, see, this is a book of peace.

633
00:33:21.443 --> 00:33:23.124
No, it's talking about the blood of Abel.

634
00:33:23.324 --> 00:33:23.984
That's right.

635
00:33:24.084 --> 00:33:25.505
It says children of Israel.

636
00:33:25.525 --> 00:33:26.586
It doesn't say, O Muslims.

637
00:33:27.146 --> 00:33:28.847
There's nothing about Muslims in that verse.

638
00:33:28.867 --> 00:33:30.849
Does it say the word Israel in the Quran?

639
00:33:30.869 --> 00:33:33.390
It says, O children of Israel, he who takes the blood of one.

640
00:33:33.630 --> 00:33:35.312
So this is referring to the blood of Abel.

641
00:33:36.072 --> 00:33:42.359
So this Muslims take this and Obama used to take this and say, this is proof that this book is a book of peace.

642
00:33:42.620 --> 00:33:46.224
It has nothing to do with Muslims unless they call themselves children of Israel.

643
00:33:46.544 --> 00:33:51.970
The next verse has to do with them, where it says, or those who cause mischief in the land,

644
00:33:52.691 --> 00:33:57.854
and stand against Allah and his apostle, crucify them, and cut off their hands and feet from opposite end.

645
00:33:58.194 --> 00:34:01.496
That's the verse that they should be using, which is absolutely violent.

646
00:34:01.817 --> 00:34:07.000
Nonetheless, the first two verses, the first one, verse 31, comes from the Targum of Jonathan Ben-Oziah.

647
00:34:07.220 --> 00:34:10.342
The second one comes from the Bar Sanhedrin, written in the 5th century.

648
00:34:10.762 --> 00:34:12.104
These are apocryphal accounts.

649
00:34:12.424 --> 00:34:14.947
You jump to chapter 21, verse 51 to 71.

650
00:34:15.187 --> 00:34:15.948
There's Abraham.

651
00:34:16.168 --> 00:34:20.013
He comes in the Masjid al-Haram, which is the Kaaba, what Muslims say the Kaaba.

652
00:34:20.033 --> 00:34:22.596
He takes a big idol and smashes all the small riders.

653
00:34:22.916 --> 00:34:24.618
The next morning, they throw him into a fiery pit.

654
00:34:25.098 --> 00:34:26.820
Now, that's not in your Bible, is it?

655
00:34:27.621 --> 00:34:29.203
He was never down in Mecca to begin with.

656
00:34:29.724 --> 00:34:31.306
But what in the world does that come from?

657
00:34:31.346 --> 00:34:35.671
That comes from the Mishnah of Rabbah, another apocryphal account written in the second century.

658
00:34:35.931 --> 00:34:41.698
You go to verse chapter 27, and there is our good friend, uh, uh, uh,

659
00:34:42.885 --> 00:34:46.829
Who is the, Solomon, Solomon and Sheba.

660
00:34:46.929 --> 00:34:48.090
The story of Solomon and Sheba.

661
00:34:48.190 --> 00:34:48.430
Yeah, sure.

662
00:34:48.550 --> 00:34:51.373
Chapter 27, verse 17 to 44, if I got it correct.

663
00:34:51.833 --> 00:34:54.776
He is there, he is marching his birds, getting them ready for battle.

664
00:34:54.916 --> 00:34:56.218
One bird is missing, the Hooper bird.

665
00:34:56.398 --> 00:34:59.280
He gets really angry when the bird flies in and talks to him.

666
00:35:00.021 --> 00:35:01.921
Jack, did you know that Solomon talked to birds?

667
00:35:01.981 --> 00:35:02.922
Yeah.

668
00:35:03.062 --> 00:35:05.222
He may have talked to birds, but it's not written down.

669
00:35:05.262 --> 00:35:06.102
He didn't put that in his diary.

670
00:35:06.142 --> 00:35:07.042
It's not in your Bible, is it?

671
00:35:07.423 --> 00:35:08.303
I mean, yep, exactly.

672
00:35:08.423 --> 00:35:11.603
It's a vicious story of the Solomon and the bird.

673
00:35:11.643 --> 00:35:13.544
The bird flies down, brings up the queen of Sheba.

674
00:35:13.764 --> 00:35:20.245
She talks to birds, comes into the room room, picks up her skirts to keep them from getting wet because she sees, she thinks it's a pond of water.

675
00:35:20.425 --> 00:35:20.745
Oh, boy.

676
00:35:21.065 --> 00:35:23.606
All of that comes from the second Talmud of Esther.

677
00:35:24.166 --> 00:35:25.167
Word for word, the same.

678
00:35:25.467 --> 00:35:28.009
It was an entertaining story for children's bedtime.

679
00:35:28.130 --> 00:35:28.390
Wow.

680
00:35:28.470 --> 00:35:30.231
And yet that was written in the second century.

681
00:35:30.291 --> 00:35:32.013
It's incorporated into chapter 27.

682
00:35:32.313 --> 00:35:38.018
So when you get to chapter 2, verse 78, 79, it's warning people about these three stories.

683
00:35:38.058 --> 00:35:38.218
Yeah.

684
00:35:38.419 --> 00:35:38.859
And many more.

685
00:35:38.879 --> 00:35:40.160
I'm just giving you three examples.

686
00:35:40.701 --> 00:35:41.261
Can you see?

687
00:35:41.301 --> 00:35:42.182
This is an own go.

688
00:35:42.222 --> 00:35:43.503
This shuts down the Quran.

689
00:35:43.623 --> 00:35:43.943
That's right.

690
00:35:43.983 --> 00:35:46.305
It's the Quran that's been corrupted, not the Bible.

691
00:35:49.048 --> 00:35:49.288
Yeah.

692
00:35:49.468 --> 00:35:49.748
Okay.

693
00:35:49.949 --> 00:35:50.289
Got it.

694
00:35:50.449 --> 00:35:50.849
Perfect.

695
00:35:50.909 --> 00:35:51.390
Wonderful.

696
00:35:51.410 --> 00:35:51.610
Wonderful.

697
00:35:52.697 --> 00:35:58.392
But you know more about the Quran and Islam than Muslims do.

698
00:35:59.706 --> 00:36:03.009
Some Muslims will know what I'm saying, but they don't say what I'm saying.

699
00:36:03.049 --> 00:36:04.030
Because you can see why.

700
00:36:04.170 --> 00:36:04.570
Of course.

701
00:36:04.590 --> 00:36:06.712
This would invalidate much of what they're teaching.

702
00:36:06.992 --> 00:36:12.997
They don't want Muslims to know that these are, if you look at the Quran, much of the Quran has been borrowed from other sources.

703
00:36:13.057 --> 00:36:14.619
In fact, this is what we're doing right now.

704
00:36:15.059 --> 00:36:19.543
We have a project called the Intertextual Project that is ongoing, it's gonna be finished by next year.

705
00:36:19.783 --> 00:36:24.928
We're looking at all the stories in the Quran, all this beautiful poetry, all of these antecedents,

706
00:36:25.488 --> 00:36:26.208
come from somewhere.

707
00:36:26.528 --> 00:36:31.830
And we're getting all the antecedents and re-recreating the Quran, going back to where those antecedents are.

708
00:36:32.290 --> 00:36:43.354
So for instance, chapter 23 of the Quran, that beautiful story, it's a beautiful poem about the believers and what their dues and their duties are.

709
00:36:43.674 --> 00:36:46.455
And if they do these duties, then they will have a rich reward in heaven.

710
00:36:46.475 --> 00:36:49.697
It's a gorgeous poem, except it doesn't belong in the Quran.

711
00:36:49.897 --> 00:36:53.138
It comes from actually, it comes from an early church father in the fourth century.

712
00:36:54.057 --> 00:37:02.823
And what's fascinating, in the fourth century, when he wrote it, Ephraim is his name, St. Ephraim, when he wrote it at that time, he had it, so it rhymed in Syriac.

713
00:37:03.263 --> 00:37:06.546
So it has anonyx at the end, each word at the end.

714
00:37:06.746 --> 00:37:08.387
So you can memorize that easy.

715
00:37:08.627 --> 00:37:13.391
You get the first five verses, which comes straight out of this Ephraim poem.

716
00:37:14.111 --> 00:37:23.475
Beautiful thing about the believer must do his prayers, he must do his zakat or his tithing, he must never speak against any other, and he must be chaste.

717
00:37:24.535 --> 00:37:25.556
Now you know what the word chaste means.

718
00:37:25.576 --> 00:37:26.156
Yes, of course.

719
00:37:26.776 --> 00:37:28.577
No sexual impurities.

720
00:37:28.617 --> 00:37:35.299
Verse six and seven in the Quran says, except for those which your right hand possesses, those slaves of war, and the many women that you take.

721
00:37:35.720 --> 00:37:36.840
Oh, what's that doing in there?

722
00:37:36.860 --> 00:37:38.401
Because it's not in St. Neffron's prayer.

723
00:37:38.481 --> 00:37:41.462
It's been added in by the Muslims at a later date.

724
00:37:41.682 --> 00:37:43.323
So that they can have all the women they want.

725
00:37:43.823 --> 00:37:46.924
It just pretty much, it just adulterates the poem.

726
00:37:47.424 --> 00:37:50.425
But the poem itself comes from the fourth century.

727
00:37:51.005 --> 00:37:53.626
And this is the same repeated again in chapter 70.

728
00:37:54.106 --> 00:37:56.687
All of this material, if you look, comes from five sources.

729
00:37:57.127 --> 00:37:59.888
It comes from these apocryphal writings, these Jewish apocryphal writings.

730
00:38:00.188 --> 00:38:05.590
It comes from Christian sectarian writings, especially the references to Jesus in chapter 19 and chapter 3.

731
00:38:06.450 --> 00:38:11.533
And then it comes from Zoroastrian writings, which makes sense since that was Sassanian.

732
00:38:11.673 --> 00:38:14.655
And it comes from Ethiopic writings, again, which was just across the border.

733
00:38:15.296 --> 00:38:17.697
And it comes from Chinese writings.

734
00:38:17.737 --> 00:38:19.038
Chinese writings.

735
00:38:19.058 --> 00:38:20.839
Because of all the trade they had with the Chinese.

736
00:38:21.439 --> 00:38:22.760
So you're going to see an awful lot of this.

737
00:38:22.780 --> 00:38:24.121
We're going to publish it next year.

738
00:38:24.701 --> 00:38:27.983
By the time we have this conference here again, we're going to probably give you a copy.

739
00:38:28.644 --> 00:38:30.005
But can you see what does this say?

740
00:38:30.045 --> 00:38:31.946
This proves that this is not an eternal book.

741
00:38:32.586 --> 00:38:45.296
as the Quran claims it is in chapter 85, verse 21 and 22, to allow al-Masfuz, this preserved tablet, it proves that men have introduced it, men have corrected, men have corrupted it, men have deleted, they have accreted it.

742
00:38:45.556 --> 00:38:48.578
That confronts chapter 10, verse 15, and chapter 18, verse 27.

743
00:38:49.579 --> 00:38:55.283
And it really confronts the reason why no man can change it if it's eternal is because Allah guards it.

744
00:38:55.323 --> 00:38:56.884
That's in chapter 15, verse 9.

745
00:38:57.204 --> 00:39:01.066
So it shuts down all those verses and shows this is as man-made as you can get.

746
00:39:01.427 --> 00:39:08.551
And that's why if you're borrowing all these stories from other groups and other traditions, you've got to give credit to those traditions.

747
00:39:08.631 --> 00:39:09.152
More than that,

748
00:39:09.772 --> 00:39:13.937
This pretty much shows you that there was no Quran at all in the 7th century.

749
00:39:14.178 --> 00:39:15.439
Say that again slowly, please.

750
00:39:15.459 --> 00:39:18.243
There was no Quran anywhere in the 7th century.

751
00:39:18.263 --> 00:39:26.773
You can't find any manuscript in the 7th century of a Quran that's 114 surahs from a place called Mecca and Medina for one very good reason.

752
00:39:27.534 --> 00:39:28.715
Just look at Meccan Media.

753
00:39:28.956 --> 00:39:30.457
I mean, you've seen it on a map.

754
00:39:30.537 --> 00:39:31.458
It's a desert.

755
00:39:31.879 --> 00:39:32.640
No desert, no water.

756
00:39:32.660 --> 00:39:35.303
No water, no food, no food, no people, no towns, no towns.

757
00:39:35.643 --> 00:39:36.304
There's no history.

758
00:39:36.324 --> 00:39:46.915
You cannot have a book like the Quran that's full of all these great debates with Christians and Jews, lots of theology in a place that has really no...

759
00:39:48.777 --> 00:39:49.717
No existence.

760
00:39:49.777 --> 00:39:51.478
Camel can't even exist there.

761
00:39:51.518 --> 00:39:53.819
So how do you expect Jews and Christians?

762
00:39:54.459 --> 00:40:01.322
There is no historical document of Jews and Christians being any further than Tabuk, which is way up in the north part of Arabia.

763
00:40:01.562 --> 00:40:02.822
They never were in Medina.

764
00:40:03.283 --> 00:40:08.745
All these stories that I just mentioned earlier about the three Jewish tribes, all of that is fictitious.

765
00:40:09.125 --> 00:40:10.746
This has all been added at a later date.

766
00:40:11.006 --> 00:40:12.206
Oh, you've raised a good...

767
00:40:12.386 --> 00:40:13.647
Okay, question.

768
00:40:14.307 --> 00:40:14.447
Okay.

769
00:40:16.045 --> 00:40:30.951
You're aware that many years ago, when the Mormon church in Utah, they were getting hit, lift, and right about its lack of authenticity.

770
00:40:31.771 --> 00:40:37.613
At BYU University, of course, they have the Department of Archaeology.

771
00:40:38.613 --> 00:40:42.375
And they were challenged about produce...

772
00:40:43.307 --> 00:40:46.428
archaeology that supports the Book of Mormon.

773
00:40:46.448 --> 00:40:48.148
And they were unable to do so.

774
00:40:48.389 --> 00:41:02.973
The settlements that Joseph Smith speaks about, the region or the realm where Nephi or those related to Alma, these locations, these peoples, there's no archaeological evidence.

775
00:41:05.214 --> 00:41:06.195
Regarding Islam.

776
00:41:06.535 --> 00:41:12.998
Well, just to say, am I correct and believe that a lot of that is lifted out of the book of the dead, the Egyptian book of the dead?

777
00:41:13.538 --> 00:41:13.838
Yes.

778
00:41:14.438 --> 00:41:18.000
And it's from the Chicago Metropolitan Museum where Joseph used to work?

779
00:41:18.020 --> 00:41:18.540
Oh, you're good.

780
00:41:19.101 --> 00:41:19.621
Isn't that true?

781
00:41:19.701 --> 00:41:20.281
I'm just guessing.

782
00:41:20.801 --> 00:41:21.622
This is what I've been told.

783
00:41:21.902 --> 00:41:23.603
So you can see where he lifted it from.

784
00:41:23.883 --> 00:41:24.423
Exactly.

785
00:41:24.583 --> 00:41:27.465
With those beautiful golden glasses that don't exist anymore.

786
00:41:27.505 --> 00:41:28.525
Golden glasses.

787
00:41:28.765 --> 00:41:30.626
Those tablets we just can't find.

788
00:41:30.646 --> 00:41:32.307
But that said...

789
00:41:33.501 --> 00:41:38.225
So if that is happening in just the last few hundred years, why can't we ask the same question?

790
00:41:38.586 --> 00:41:55.241
Because if we were asked that of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John back in the 1800s in Germany, and yet we came up with all kinds of documents, and we came up with all kinds of proof that Jesus did exist, and that these were correct, if we have been able to do that in the last 200 years, shouldn't we ask the same thing of Islam?

791
00:41:55.261 --> 00:41:55.501
Absolutely.

792
00:41:55.721 --> 00:41:56.302
Absolutely.

793
00:41:57.643 --> 00:42:00.787
If you are the true religion, have at it.

794
00:42:00.948 --> 00:42:01.408
Have at it.

795
00:42:01.749 --> 00:42:02.770
Shoot us all you want.

796
00:42:02.870 --> 00:42:03.712
We'll take it.

797
00:42:03.752 --> 00:42:05.875
We'll be standing at the end of the day because truth is.

798
00:42:06.015 --> 00:42:09.179
So this was the question asked of Dr. Yasir Khadi a year ago.

799
00:42:09.780 --> 00:42:10.481
After I was here,

800
00:42:11.348 --> 00:42:12.989
A few days, two days after I was here.

801
00:42:13.049 --> 00:42:14.149
Which, by the way, you were here.

802
00:42:14.169 --> 00:42:19.532
That talk you gave is three and a half million views.

803
00:42:19.712 --> 00:42:19.912
Is it?

804
00:42:20.052 --> 00:42:20.272
Okay.

805
00:42:20.312 --> 00:42:20.672
Oh, yes.

806
00:42:21.113 --> 00:42:31.598
But three days after I did that talk, Yasser Khadi, who is considered probably, I would say, is the world's best theologian because he has the highest degree you can get in Hadith literature from Medina University.

807
00:42:32.138 --> 00:42:40.582
And he has the highest degree you can get in Western historical criticism from Yale University, a PhD from Yale University, looking at Ibn Taymiyyah.

808
00:42:41.122 --> 00:42:43.284
So he has a foot in both camps.

809
00:42:43.764 --> 00:42:45.205
He is the only one that does have that.

810
00:42:45.225 --> 00:42:48.828
So he understands his focal criticism, and he also understands Hadith sciences.

811
00:42:49.088 --> 00:42:50.209
Was asked the same question.

812
00:42:50.449 --> 00:42:53.371
How can you know what Muhammad said and did since no one wrote it down?

813
00:42:54.051 --> 00:42:59.015
See, we have Matthew and John who are eyewitnesses, Mark and Luke, who are what they call tabiun.

814
00:42:59.035 --> 00:43:00.256
That would be second generation.

815
00:43:01.056 --> 00:43:02.577
Sahaba would be the first generation.

816
00:43:02.597 --> 00:43:03.418
Let's use their words.

817
00:43:03.718 --> 00:43:05.499
Sahaba, we're the companions around Muhammad.

818
00:43:05.740 --> 00:43:08.081
We have the Sahaba of Matthew and John.

819
00:43:08.101 --> 00:43:09.863
We're the Sahaba of Jesus Christ, okay?

820
00:43:09.903 --> 00:43:10.383
Like with like.

821
00:43:11.023 --> 00:43:12.444
they wrote it down before they died.

822
00:43:13.205 --> 00:43:14.986
So that was a smart thing to do.

823
00:43:15.106 --> 00:43:16.347
Why did not the Sahaba?

824
00:43:16.787 --> 00:43:22.071
And when Dr. Shabit Ali was asked in July last year, how many Sahaba were there around Muhammad?

825
00:43:22.311 --> 00:43:23.532
He said 120,000.

826
00:43:24.913 --> 00:43:25.474
Not just four.

827
00:43:26.414 --> 00:43:27.455
They had 120,000.

828
00:43:27.935 --> 00:43:29.737
Not one of them wrote one word down.

829
00:43:30.457 --> 00:43:31.138
How inept.

830
00:43:32.330 --> 00:43:35.212
Now, when he was asked, he said, well, what do you do?

831
00:43:35.252 --> 00:43:36.173
How are you going to support?

832
00:43:36.193 --> 00:43:45.879
Because the West over here are looking at your Hadith sciences, and every Western scholar discredits your Hadith sciences.

833
00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:48.081
And he says, yes, I understand that.

834
00:43:48.101 --> 00:43:48.922
They do discredit it.

835
00:43:49.242 --> 00:43:57.487
But when I am over here, when I go to the mosque, I quote from Al-Buhari, Sahih Muslim, Ibn Daw, the Maja and Nisai.

836
00:43:57.507 --> 00:43:58.108
I quote from them.

837
00:43:58.982 --> 00:44:03.006
enormously, because though I have to, because that's how I need to know how to walk, talk, eat and drink.

838
00:44:03.386 --> 00:44:09.532
When I come to Dallas, Texas and go to Epic Senate, I do not quote from them because they consider those to be discredited.

839
00:44:09.692 --> 00:44:10.032
Wow.

840
00:44:10.392 --> 00:44:12.734
He said, we have two completely different epistemologies.

841
00:44:13.135 --> 00:44:13.875
Amazing.

842
00:44:13.916 --> 00:44:16.278
And he says, these two epistemologies are in conflict.

843
00:44:16.298 --> 00:44:16.818
Conflict.

844
00:44:16.898 --> 00:44:17.539
Collision.

845
00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:18.420
They're in a collision.

846
00:44:19.439 --> 00:44:24.684
And he says, there's no way that I can right now, as I speak, I cannot know whether or not these will ever come together.

847
00:44:24.904 --> 00:44:29.889
But if someone could do from over here, could prove it historically, I would be the first to buy his book.

848
00:44:30.695 --> 00:44:34.036
Now, he said that on July 9th, 2025.

849
00:44:34.156 --> 00:44:39.878
On July 31st, he went back to Epic City and his students were quite upset because this went all over the world.

850
00:44:40.538 --> 00:44:42.398
They said, how is it you can- But he spoke truth.

851
00:44:42.638 --> 00:44:43.479
He was speaking truth.

852
00:44:43.499 --> 00:44:45.079
This is the private side.

853
00:44:45.099 --> 00:44:46.440
Remember, he's speaking to Muslims.

854
00:44:46.900 --> 00:44:52.421
That's why you need to be careful what they say publicly because what they say publicly is not what they say privately.

855
00:44:52.581 --> 00:44:53.542
That's very political.

856
00:44:53.562 --> 00:44:54.622
Because remember, they're in-

857
00:44:55.182 --> 00:44:56.703
Publicly, they're in Dalal Harb, okay?

858
00:44:56.723 --> 00:44:57.223
That's right.

859
00:44:57.263 --> 00:44:58.323
Remember, back to Dalal Harb again.

860
00:44:58.343 --> 00:44:58.743
They're at war.

861
00:44:58.763 --> 00:44:59.144
They're at war.

862
00:44:59.164 --> 00:44:59.524
They're at war.

863
00:44:59.744 --> 00:45:00.284
They're at war.

864
00:45:00.304 --> 00:45:00.644
They're at war.

865
00:45:00.664 --> 00:45:00.964
They're at war.

866
00:45:00.984 --> 00:45:02.745
Just like you would do behind enemy lines.

867
00:45:02.765 --> 00:45:02.965
Yeah.

868
00:45:03.245 --> 00:45:04.686
You'll tell the enemy anything they want to hear.

869
00:45:04.706 --> 00:45:04.986
Exactly.

870
00:45:05.006 --> 00:45:05.386
You're at war.

871
00:45:05.406 --> 00:45:09.248
But when you come home again to Dalal Islam, you've got to speak privately.

872
00:45:09.448 --> 00:45:10.628
You've got to speak honestly.

873
00:45:10.848 --> 00:45:14.690
And that's what he was when he was back in Epic City in Dallas on July 31st.

874
00:45:15.250 --> 00:45:16.831
His students wanted to know how he could do this.

875
00:45:16.911 --> 00:45:18.211
And he says, okay, okay, listen.

876
00:45:18.851 --> 00:45:22.533
The historical criticism, which is on this side, is based on a bias.

877
00:45:22.553 --> 00:45:22.993
Okay?

878
00:45:23.193 --> 00:45:24.193
That's why we don't use it.

879
00:45:24.614 --> 00:45:25.494
And what's the bias?

880
00:45:25.994 --> 00:45:27.655
They demand everything be written down.

881
00:45:28.795 --> 00:45:29.275
Not a bad.

882
00:45:29.395 --> 00:45:30.055
Absolutely.

883
00:45:30.115 --> 00:45:31.176
Not a bad request.

884
00:45:31.316 --> 00:45:31.796
That's right.

885
00:45:31.856 --> 00:45:33.417
And that's exactly what we demand.

886
00:45:33.757 --> 00:45:37.398
If you buy a car tomorrow, you want to have a receipt that you paid for it, right?

887
00:45:37.938 --> 00:45:39.399
Otherwise, they could say you haven't paid for it.

888
00:45:39.479 --> 00:45:40.399
We want another $28,000.

889
00:45:40.779 --> 00:45:41.660
Right.

890
00:45:42.260 --> 00:45:45.381
You have to write down what you said and what you did.

891
00:45:46.683 --> 00:45:47.844
These guys were all there.

892
00:45:48.284 --> 00:45:57.830
And he says, but we don't worry about that because we know that the Sahaba, who, and it's on this side now, we don't worry about, he said, because we don't use historical criticism.

893
00:45:58.350 --> 00:46:01.312
We can trust because of iman.

894
00:46:01.552 --> 00:46:02.572
Iman means belief.

895
00:46:03.373 --> 00:46:10.097
We can have belief because these men who were there watching what Muhammad said and watching Muhammad did, they were absolutely pure.

896
00:46:11.263 --> 00:46:12.323
Now, I'm sitting there going like this.

897
00:46:12.343 --> 00:46:13.723
That is risky thinking.

898
00:46:13.763 --> 00:46:14.544
Stop and think that.

899
00:46:14.724 --> 00:46:20.905
Can you imagine us demanding of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John that they have to be absolutely pure before they can write anything down?

900
00:46:21.365 --> 00:46:21.625
No way.

901
00:46:21.665 --> 00:46:21.725
No.

902
00:46:22.405 --> 00:46:22.785
We knew.

903
00:46:22.845 --> 00:46:23.725
I mean, look at Chosen.

904
00:46:24.465 --> 00:46:25.786
They're just like you and me, aren't they?

905
00:46:25.806 --> 00:46:25.986
Yeah.

906
00:46:26.486 --> 00:46:27.946
They have a whole lot of kinds of foibles.

907
00:46:28.066 --> 00:46:38.308
In fact, I was at Cal Poly Pomona here in Southern California, and we had a table set up because we had heard that the Muslim Brotherhood had their table set up.

908
00:46:39.960 --> 00:46:42.662
And so they're handing out Quran, so we're handing out Bibles.

909
00:46:43.582 --> 00:46:45.183
And this one guy, Amir was his name.

910
00:46:45.243 --> 00:46:47.904
He comes on over and he introduces himself.

911
00:46:48.605 --> 00:46:53.788
And he said, very, very arrogantly, very confidently, but listen to what he said.

912
00:46:54.988 --> 00:46:58.670
He said, hey, we really appreciate what you're doing, which of course they didn't.

913
00:46:59.471 --> 00:47:03.633
But he said, there's no doubt about it.

914
00:47:04.501 --> 00:47:06.262
I don't know if you've ever heard such a thing before, Jay.

915
00:47:06.782 --> 00:47:07.662
I'd never heard this before.

916
00:47:07.722 --> 00:47:09.462
He said, there's no doubt about it.

917
00:47:10.383 --> 00:47:15.824
The message that you Christians have, it's a far better message than we have.

918
00:47:16.365 --> 00:47:16.845
Far better.

919
00:47:18.105 --> 00:47:19.806
The only problem is, it's not true.

920
00:47:20.126 --> 00:47:26.168
So you can just flip that on its head next time and say, yours is not only not amazing, it's not also true.

921
00:47:26.508 --> 00:47:27.468
It's a double negative.

922
00:47:28.500 --> 00:47:30.965
Thank God that you recognize that it's amazing.

923
00:47:31.025 --> 00:47:33.871
But it is absolutely true because we've got the evidence.

924
00:47:33.911 --> 00:47:34.732
Where's your evidence?

925
00:47:35.053 --> 00:47:35.273
True.

926
00:47:35.313 --> 00:47:35.674
I should.

927
00:47:35.694 --> 00:47:39.221
If I'd have been on my toes, I would have said, isn't God able to do amazing?

928
00:47:39.962 --> 00:47:41.543
Because the message is amazing.

929
00:47:41.623 --> 00:47:46.066
Why is it that our God preserved his message and your God did not a thing?

930
00:47:46.086 --> 00:47:46.266
He can't.

931
00:47:46.466 --> 00:47:50.189
If your God is guarding the message and yet not one... Now, here's what's amazing.

932
00:47:50.489 --> 00:47:52.691
Not just the first generation didn't write it down.

933
00:47:52.711 --> 00:47:53.991
The tabiun didn't write it down.

934
00:47:54.172 --> 00:47:55.552
The tab tabiun didn't write it down.

935
00:47:55.572 --> 00:47:56.453
The tab tabiun.

936
00:47:56.673 --> 00:47:58.815
So five generations didn't write it down.

937
00:47:59.315 --> 00:48:00.376
All of them were pure.

938
00:48:00.816 --> 00:48:04.979
If they were all pure, therefore, everything they said was 100% accurate is what he said.

939
00:48:05.379 --> 00:48:06.320
He said this a year ago.

940
00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:10.202
Now I'm sitting there and saying, thank God we don't have to depend on that.

941
00:48:10.503 --> 00:48:11.944
So here's what really gets juicy.

942
00:48:12.244 --> 00:48:18.528
He says, but finally it was written down by Ibn Hisham and Al-Buhari, Sahih, Muslim, Ibn Daud and all the others in the ninth century.

943
00:48:18.568 --> 00:48:19.589
But how pure were they?

944
00:48:19.649 --> 00:48:20.150
200 years.

945
00:48:20.190 --> 00:48:22.151
What he doesn't know is what we now know.

946
00:48:22.551 --> 00:48:24.373
There was nothing written down in the ninth century.

947
00:48:24.693 --> 00:48:30.037
We have no documentation, no extant manuscript for any of these, these seven guys that,

948
00:48:30.677 --> 00:48:33.177
They don't begin to appear to the 11th century.

949
00:48:33.578 --> 00:48:39.218
Al-Buhadi that everybody uses, the nine volumes, are finally written down in the 15th century.

950
00:48:39.258 --> 00:48:40.539
That's 800 years later.

951
00:48:40.979 --> 00:48:47.500
There's another three volumes that are written in the 12th century, and we're now looking at the 12th century and the 15th and seeing how different they are.

952
00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:51.481
They were accreted and deleted and corrupted and changed for 800 years.

953
00:48:51.901 --> 00:48:57.682
So even what he's going on, that 200-year gap, is not 200 years, it's 400 to 800-year gap.

954
00:49:00.972 --> 00:49:08.996
that we can bring into court to prove Muhammad's existence.

955
00:49:09.056 --> 00:49:09.356
Zero.

956
00:49:09.897 --> 00:49:11.077
Just his very existence.

957
00:49:11.097 --> 00:49:11.938
Okay, now be careful.

958
00:49:12.058 --> 00:49:15.940
I have to be careful because I got hammered by this when I said this last year.

959
00:49:16.260 --> 00:49:20.202
When I say zero, there are lots of references to Muhammad in the 7th century.

960
00:49:20.803 --> 00:49:21.223
From whom?

961
00:49:22.064 --> 00:49:23.026
They're all up in Syria.

962
00:49:23.086 --> 00:49:23.887
They're all up in Jordan.

963
00:49:23.947 --> 00:49:24.868
And it's called Mahmud.

964
00:49:25.149 --> 00:49:26.170
Mim HaMim Dal.

965
00:49:26.210 --> 00:49:26.831
It's four letters.

966
00:49:27.512 --> 00:49:30.697
Just like there are hundreds of references to Jesuses in the first century.

967
00:49:31.318 --> 00:49:32.239
There are lots of Jesuses.

968
00:49:32.259 --> 00:49:32.980
It was a common name.

969
00:49:33.441 --> 00:49:34.082
Very common name.

970
00:49:34.242 --> 00:49:35.764
But which Jesus are you concerned about?

971
00:49:36.545 --> 00:49:37.706
I'm only concerned about one Jesus.

972
00:49:37.726 --> 00:49:38.307
There's only one.

973
00:49:38.667 --> 00:49:40.468
One who was born in Bethlehem, grew up in Nazareth.

974
00:49:40.488 --> 00:49:41.509
The one the prophet spoke of.

975
00:49:41.529 --> 00:49:41.970
Exactly.

976
00:49:42.010 --> 00:49:44.832
And died and rose again in Jerusalem and claimed to be the son of God.

977
00:49:44.892 --> 00:49:46.073
Yep, because God can do that.

978
00:49:46.253 --> 00:49:47.934
And that's the only Jesus I care about.

979
00:49:47.974 --> 00:49:49.396
That's the only Jesus I'm going to support.

980
00:49:49.676 --> 00:49:52.218
That's the only Jesus you will die for and I will die for.

981
00:49:52.538 --> 00:49:54.279
And that's the Jesus the Muslims need.

982
00:49:54.539 --> 00:49:55.820
And that's the Jesus they need.

983
00:49:56.040 --> 00:50:01.202
But if we are demanding that Jesus, then we have to make sure the Muslims have their Muhammad as well.

984
00:50:01.643 --> 00:50:07.646
I am not going to sit there and waste my time talking about all the other Mahmads that are all over the Syria and Jordan.

985
00:50:07.986 --> 00:50:12.508
These are known as the praised one, the altogether lovely that we see in Song of Solomon.

986
00:50:12.928 --> 00:50:16.830
There's Mahmoudim right there in Song of Solomon 516.

987
00:50:17.291 --> 00:50:18.912
It's 11 times in our Old Testament.

988
00:50:18.952 --> 00:50:20.372
In Hebrew, it's the same word in Hebrew.

989
00:50:20.392 --> 00:50:21.473
So Jay, with all of this,

990
00:50:23.170 --> 00:50:28.812
Putting yourself in the Muslims' sandals right now, wherever they are in the world, what hope do they have?

991
00:50:29.473 --> 00:50:30.313
Well, they only have one hope.

992
00:50:30.333 --> 00:50:33.434
When they wake up in the morning, what is their purpose for living?

993
00:50:33.895 --> 00:50:36.436
What hope do they have where they're at?

994
00:50:36.576 --> 00:50:36.836
Okay.

995
00:50:37.276 --> 00:50:46.000
Can you understand, if you're in their shoes, just to put themselves in their shoes, they are hoping with all hope that they really do believe what that man said to you in that university.

996
00:50:46.558 --> 00:50:48.818
We may not like, we don't like what Muhammad did.

997
00:50:48.858 --> 00:50:50.659
We don't like, he doesn't have a pleasant story.

998
00:50:50.879 --> 00:50:54.520
Like your Jesus who didn't kill a soul and said, put away your sword.

999
00:50:54.740 --> 00:50:56.400
He who lives by the sword dies by the sword.

1000
00:50:56.420 --> 00:50:57.460
That's a much better message.

1001
00:50:58.080 --> 00:51:01.401
Or Muhammad said, slay the unbeliever wherever you find them.

1002
00:51:01.461 --> 00:51:06.562
And the word believer is mushrikun, those who commit shirk, those who elevate another alongside God.

1003
00:51:06.622 --> 00:51:07.642
We are the mushrikun.

1004
00:51:07.962 --> 00:51:12.423
Because we're guilty of elevating Jesus as though he's something other than God.

1005
00:51:12.463 --> 00:51:13.303
He's equal with God.

1006
00:51:13.383 --> 00:51:14.504
That's called shirk.

1007
00:51:14.544 --> 00:51:15.884
Rather than seeing him as the same.

1008
00:51:16.304 --> 00:51:18.005
So he doesn't like that message.

1009
00:51:18.025 --> 00:51:18.846
He's aware of that.

1010
00:51:19.326 --> 00:51:21.288
And that's why he's hoping, he's wishing.

1011
00:51:21.588 --> 00:51:25.751
He wants to make sure that he shuts down what you're believing and shuts down what you're saying.

1012
00:51:25.991 --> 00:51:28.653
He wants to censor you because you will.

1013
00:51:28.954 --> 00:51:30.315
We are really their only threat.

1014
00:51:30.795 --> 00:51:33.197
When you stop and think of it, nobody is a threat like we are.

1015
00:51:33.825 --> 00:51:37.209
Because not only of who Jesus is, but also the message he's giving.

1016
00:51:37.429 --> 00:51:40.212
And they recognize that the message of Jesus is a lot more attractive.

1017
00:51:40.332 --> 00:51:40.873
Absolutely.

1018
00:51:40.893 --> 00:51:42.254
Of course, everybody loves Jesus.

1019
00:51:42.314 --> 00:51:44.757
Muslims come to me all the time and says, we love Jesus.

1020
00:51:44.777 --> 00:51:45.678
Why don't you love Muhammad?

1021
00:51:45.698 --> 00:51:46.519
And I said, exactly.

1022
00:51:46.979 --> 00:51:47.900
Of course you love Jesus.

1023
00:51:48.040 --> 00:51:49.582
And you're making me think about something.

1024
00:51:49.682 --> 00:51:55.669
So is it true, Jay, that Muslims around the world report

1025
00:51:57.089 --> 00:52:00.831
that they are seeing visions or dreams of Jesus speaking to them?

1026
00:52:01.051 --> 00:52:01.392
Everywhere.

1027
00:52:02.032 --> 00:52:05.374
This is probably the greatest way people are coming to the Lord to do that.

1028
00:52:05.594 --> 00:52:12.498
So are there not people waking up after having the same dream about Muhammad saying who he is?

1029
00:52:12.838 --> 00:52:13.699
I've not yet heard one.

1030
00:52:13.779 --> 00:52:14.539
I've not heard one.

1031
00:52:14.759 --> 00:52:15.420
I've not heard one.

1032
00:52:15.620 --> 00:52:24.305
I've only heard Muslims say that they, in fact, we are now broadcasting in many Muslim nations in their original languages,

1033
00:52:26.333 --> 00:52:27.454
And we're getting letters now.

1034
00:52:27.474 --> 00:52:29.095
We're getting responses from people.

1035
00:52:29.115 --> 00:52:29.896
It's fantastic.

1036
00:52:31.157 --> 00:52:38.102
And several of those we've gotten, people have made the comments that Jesus had appeared to them or that they had.

1037
00:52:39.383 --> 00:52:41.084
This is absolutely awesome.

1038
00:52:41.104 --> 00:52:44.587
So you are saying it is, in fact, something that you've heard of.

1039
00:52:45.405 --> 00:52:47.067
You could look at most, not necessarily.

1040
00:52:47.708 --> 00:52:51.412
At one point, they were saying 75% of all converts are coming through this method.

1041
00:52:51.852 --> 00:52:52.693
This is what they were saying.

1042
00:52:52.853 --> 00:52:55.756
I've heard this of Muslims in the region of Iraq.

1043
00:52:55.776 --> 00:52:56.617
I've heard the same thing.

1044
00:52:56.637 --> 00:53:00.541
Well, they're all over the Muslim world because God is doing our job for us.

1045
00:53:01.734 --> 00:53:04.737
He's appearing because we're wasting our time not talking about him.

1046
00:53:05.017 --> 00:53:07.439
And we're wasting our time so fearful of the other.

1047
00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:13.886
We're wasting our time paralyzed with this fear that even when we're sending our missionaries out, they're not preaching the gospel.

1048
00:53:14.026 --> 00:53:14.366
That's right.

1049
00:53:14.406 --> 00:53:15.347
They're just making friendships.

1050
00:53:15.807 --> 00:53:16.088
That's right.

1051
00:53:16.148 --> 00:53:16.868
And they're looking.

1052
00:53:16.989 --> 00:53:22.554
It's this whole disciple ministry, DMM, which says to look for people of peace.

1053
00:53:22.994 --> 00:53:28.179
And if you spend your whole time looking for people of peace, you're not going to find many in the world of Islam.

1054
00:53:28.639 --> 00:53:33.163
The most radical ones, the ones that we really need to bring home, the ones who are Saul's who become Paul's.

1055
00:53:33.804 --> 00:53:35.485
Those people, I want Saul's who become Paul's.

1056
00:53:35.585 --> 00:53:36.246
Look what Paul did.

1057
00:53:36.726 --> 00:53:41.790
And in order to get that, you're going to have to use, you're going to have to preach the gospel to them, which means you're going to have confrontation.

1058
00:53:42.331 --> 00:53:43.552
And they're going to be anything but peaceful.

1059
00:53:43.592 --> 00:53:44.633
But they're the ones I want.

1060
00:53:45.129 --> 00:53:47.751
Because they are the ones who can go much quicker than you and I can go.

1061
00:53:47.971 --> 00:53:48.892
They know the languages.

1062
00:53:48.912 --> 00:53:49.853
They have the relationships.

1063
00:53:50.033 --> 00:53:51.054
They understand the culture.

1064
00:53:51.334 --> 00:53:54.056
And they can contextualize it much quicker and much better than I can.

1065
00:53:54.396 --> 00:54:00.001
And they can also, they are the opinion leaders like Paul, when he became Paul, look and see all the churches he started.

1066
00:54:00.381 --> 00:54:03.884
Look and see all the, but look at all the harassment he had to go through.

1067
00:54:04.284 --> 00:54:05.325
He got thrown into prison.

1068
00:54:05.345 --> 00:54:06.386
He got beaten up twice.

1069
00:54:06.546 --> 00:54:07.247
Left for dead, yeah.

1070
00:54:08.047 --> 00:54:10.068
He caused a riot in Ephesus and they killed him in Rome.

1071
00:54:10.528 --> 00:54:13.910
So we have to have people like that who are willing to die for what they believe.

1072
00:54:14.351 --> 00:54:15.771
Like the disciples.

1073
00:54:16.051 --> 00:54:16.932
They all went through that.

1074
00:54:17.432 --> 00:54:21.074
And here's what's interesting because that's part of the commissioning in chapter 10 of Matthew.

1075
00:54:21.134 --> 00:54:21.514
That's right.

1076
00:54:21.895 --> 00:54:23.515
If you go in my name, you're going to be hated.

1077
00:54:23.535 --> 00:54:24.496
You're going to be persecuted.

1078
00:54:24.516 --> 00:54:24.916
You're going to be.

1079
00:54:24.956 --> 00:54:26.297
It's a promise.

1080
00:54:26.317 --> 00:54:28.398
You're going to be flogged and you're going to be killed.

1081
00:54:28.858 --> 00:54:29.959
Now, were you commissioned like that?

1082
00:54:31.053 --> 00:54:33.236
As a believer, I'm commissioned like that.

1083
00:54:33.256 --> 00:54:34.817
In the Calvary Chapel church?

1084
00:54:35.037 --> 00:54:35.578
Oh, no.

1085
00:54:35.638 --> 00:54:36.979
You mean like in the coordination?

1086
00:54:36.999 --> 00:54:38.121
Do they commission you like that?

1087
00:54:38.381 --> 00:54:38.581
No.

1088
00:54:38.861 --> 00:54:42.165
Well, we need to because that's how Jesus commissioned his 12.

1089
00:54:42.345 --> 00:54:43.426
You're exactly correct.

1090
00:54:43.526 --> 00:54:44.607
It should be said that way.

1091
00:54:44.807 --> 00:54:52.015
And my Saul's who become Paul's, guys and gals who are like over here, they don't care dillish what if they're going to die because they have been so freed

1092
00:54:52.612 --> 00:54:54.392
from what Islam has been doing to them.

1093
00:54:54.753 --> 00:54:55.413
They want to say it.

1094
00:54:55.633 --> 00:54:56.873
They want to preach it from the rough top.

1095
00:54:56.893 --> 00:55:07.496
Not only is that true what you just said, but according to true, absolute Christian theology, we ourselves are to reckon ourselves dead.

1096
00:55:08.436 --> 00:55:15.578
If we reckon ourselves dead, and if we have been, Galatians 2, 2, crucified with Christ, nevertheless, we live...

1097
00:55:16.748 --> 00:55:20.029
then who can take our lives from us because our lives have already been offered.

1098
00:55:20.169 --> 00:55:21.590
You need to bring Hutton back here.

1099
00:55:21.870 --> 00:55:22.670
She was here this week.

1100
00:55:22.710 --> 00:55:23.811
Did any of you meet Hutton?

1101
00:55:24.311 --> 00:55:25.271
Did any of us meet her?

1102
00:55:25.531 --> 00:55:26.972
Hutton is a Turk lady.

1103
00:55:27.052 --> 00:55:29.413
She's a Turkish leader in, I guess in her forties now.

1104
00:55:29.833 --> 00:55:33.054
And she was on the ladder with me for three years before I left in London.

1105
00:55:33.734 --> 00:55:35.175
This woman- She was at the ladder?

1106
00:55:35.932 --> 00:55:36.632
Did you sit on the ladder?

1107
00:55:36.652 --> 00:55:37.453
She was on the ladder with me, yeah.

1108
00:55:37.473 --> 00:55:38.334
She would get on the ladder?

1109
00:55:38.674 --> 00:55:39.955
She was the best one on the ladder.

1110
00:55:40.255 --> 00:55:41.175
I've never seen her on the ladder.

1111
00:55:41.216 --> 00:55:41.756
Except for Beth Beltola.

1112
00:55:41.776 --> 00:55:43.157
Beth Beltola was probably a little better.

1113
00:55:43.377 --> 00:55:45.618
But Hatun Tash was a Muslim.

1114
00:55:45.879 --> 00:55:47.900
Her father is a well-known imam in Turkey.

1115
00:55:48.420 --> 00:55:54.584
She fell in love with Jesus, had to flee to Britain, became a part of our team.

1116
00:55:55.145 --> 00:55:57.186
This woman goes into mosque after mosque.

1117
00:55:57.206 --> 00:55:59.468
She's been into over 400 mosques all by herself.

1118
00:56:00.108 --> 00:56:05.931
And she is the one that found the in the these, the 30 different Korans that are no two are alike.

1119
00:56:06.271 --> 00:56:06.912
She found them.

1120
00:56:07.212 --> 00:56:08.833
And so we introduced them in 2016.

1121
00:56:08.873 --> 00:56:09.733
She found them.

1122
00:56:09.853 --> 00:56:11.494
She found them all over the Muslim world.

1123
00:56:11.514 --> 00:56:12.634
They're there, you can get them today.

1124
00:56:13.095 --> 00:56:13.815
You can buy them.

1125
00:56:14.435 --> 00:56:17.137
Over 30 different Korans, over a thousand years old.

1126
00:56:17.157 --> 00:56:18.918
They're all written in Arabic.

1127
00:56:18.938 --> 00:56:20.078
These are not translations.

1128
00:56:20.518 --> 00:56:21.699
Every one of them is different.

1129
00:56:21.919 --> 00:56:26.642
There are 93,000 differences between the hafs, which is the one that we use today and all the other 29.

1130
00:56:26.702 --> 00:56:27.342
Isn't that right?

1131
00:56:27.502 --> 00:56:28.943
horrifically compromising to there.

1132
00:56:28.983 --> 00:56:33.544
Exactly, you're just starting to get to why this is so dangerous and why she, they're trying to kill her.

1133
00:56:33.584 --> 00:56:34.104
Of course.

1134
00:56:34.144 --> 00:56:38.586
They've broken her feet, they've broken her ribs, they hanged her almost to death.

1135
00:56:38.626 --> 00:56:41.167
She's been stabbed in the head right on camera.

1136
00:56:41.187 --> 00:56:43.528
You can see it there at Speaker's Corner, blood everywhere.

1137
00:56:43.988 --> 00:56:46.169
And even when she came to, she got back up and says,

1138
00:56:46.923 --> 00:56:49.065
You, God, your God tells you to kill me.

1139
00:56:49.105 --> 00:56:50.305
My God says to love you.

1140
00:56:51.026 --> 00:56:53.648
She just preached the gospel with blood streaming down her head.

1141
00:56:54.008 --> 00:56:55.889
And she goes back into the mosque again.

1142
00:56:56.470 --> 00:57:05.096
She goes, she's been into 400 mosques in the three-year period she brought a thousand Muslims to Jesus Christ only using polemics, only using confrontation.

1143
00:57:05.216 --> 00:57:10.660
Explain to the audience what polemics is and why we, why each and every one of us as believers are.

1144
00:57:11.260 --> 00:57:14.668
Polemics is going on the offense apologetics is defense, like your football team.

1145
00:57:15.349 --> 00:57:16.552
Two completely different teams.

1146
00:57:16.612 --> 00:57:18.356
I mean, you say it so simply and easily.

1147
00:57:18.396 --> 00:57:19.118
Yes, I understand.

1148
00:57:19.138 --> 00:57:20.180
Well, let's have two different skills.

1149
00:57:20.641 --> 00:57:20.802
But –

1150
00:57:22.551 --> 00:57:28.693
To elaborate on that, no football team wins a game without the two.

1151
00:57:28.773 --> 00:57:33.155
You can have the best defense in the world, but you're not going to score unless you have a good offense.

1152
00:57:33.255 --> 00:57:39.477
But the Christian church today, by and large, because of its seminaries, because of its persuasions, is...

1153
00:57:39.717 --> 00:57:40.438
I love this guy.

1154
00:57:40.458 --> 00:57:41.678
He's right up my alley.

1155
00:57:42.438 --> 00:57:43.599
Is predominantly...

1156
00:57:44.936 --> 00:57:46.077
Peace and reconciliation.

1157
00:57:46.177 --> 00:57:48.078
Exactly, anything but those two.

1158
00:57:48.198 --> 00:57:52.260
You don't confront Muhammad, you don't confront the Quran because this is not Christ-like.

1159
00:57:52.420 --> 00:58:01.746
So this is, so the church by and large in the West and maybe wherever, the church barely scarcely can defend

1160
00:58:03.445 --> 00:58:06.869
And it certainly almost isn't advancing.

1161
00:58:07.210 --> 00:58:12.776
You know, we're the only school in the world that has a master's degree in apologetics and polemics of Islam.

1162
00:58:12.896 --> 00:58:15.419
We're the only ones that have the P. And that's tragic.

1163
00:58:15.439 --> 00:58:15.980
There's only one.

1164
00:58:16.120 --> 00:58:20.345
I'm the only person in the world that has a PhD in Islamic polemics.

1165
00:58:20.706 --> 00:58:21.286
You're looking at it.

1166
00:58:21.927 --> 00:58:23.128
There should be thousands of me.

1167
00:58:23.188 --> 00:58:23.368
Yeah.

1168
00:58:23.728 --> 00:58:26.810
There should be thousands because this is exactly what Paul did.

1169
00:58:27.190 --> 00:58:32.373
When Paul, he went on the offense everywhere in Laodicea, in Cappadocia, in Berea, in Ephesus.

1170
00:58:32.693 --> 00:58:32.894
Yeah.

1171
00:58:33.034 --> 00:58:34.955
He went right into the synagogue uninvited.

1172
00:58:35.375 --> 00:58:37.456
There's no friendship evangelism there.

1173
00:58:37.676 --> 00:58:41.359
He went right up to the Pharisees and confronted them with what they had done to the Messiah.

1174
00:58:41.379 --> 00:58:41.619
He did.

1175
00:58:41.639 --> 00:58:42.439
That's called polemics.

1176
00:58:43.020 --> 00:58:43.720
Yep.

1177
00:58:43.800 --> 00:58:44.260
And who is it?

1178
00:58:44.300 --> 00:58:46.722
Vince Lombardi who says the best defense is a good offense?

1179
00:58:46.742 --> 00:58:47.082
Yes, of course.

1180
00:58:47.581 --> 00:58:48.682
I understood that perfectly.

1181
00:58:49.323 --> 00:58:51.245
Why aren't we doing what they did in the first century?

1182
00:58:51.285 --> 00:58:52.787
Why aren't we doing it in the 21st century?

1183
00:58:52.807 --> 00:58:53.588
Hope Lombardi.

1184
00:58:54.638 --> 00:58:55.498
Yes, exactly.

1185
00:58:55.518 --> 00:58:56.278
Yeah.

1186
00:58:56.298 --> 00:59:08.601
So when you get back and you see, if you go on the offense on this, you're going to confront not only their scriptures, you're going to confront them with their man, and you're going to confront their place, the book, the man, and the place, which we love because we have the better book, the better man, and the better place.

1187
00:59:09.281 --> 00:59:10.982
And that has been confronted for 200 years.

1188
00:59:11.042 --> 00:59:16.503
And we have found reference after reference for all three based on evidence for the first century.

1189
00:59:16.863 --> 00:59:18.584
They need evidence for the seventh century.

1190
00:59:18.704 --> 00:59:19.604
They cannot find it.

1191
00:59:20.104 --> 00:59:21.966
That's why they are shutting it down.

1192
00:59:22.026 --> 00:59:26.029
Why then do you think the first thing they do is get in laws like incitement to religious hatred?

1193
00:59:26.269 --> 00:59:32.755
Why do they even have a reference called Islamophobia so that you cannot say anything against their prophet and anything against their book?

1194
00:59:32.935 --> 00:59:36.378
Because those are the two weakest pillars of Islam.

1195
00:59:36.959 --> 00:59:41.803
You confront Muhammad and you confront the Quran historically and all of Islam comes falling down.

1196
00:59:42.083 --> 00:59:42.664
Help me out here.

1197
00:59:42.764 --> 00:59:47.147
I'm just being very honest with you right now on this...

1198
00:59:51.842 --> 00:59:59.124
This was probably formed in my head from being a kid, growing up in a non-Christian home.

1199
00:59:59.824 --> 01:00:00.965
It was a very moral home.

1200
01:00:00.985 --> 01:00:05.346
It was not like an ungodly, mean, ugly home.

1201
01:00:05.906 --> 01:00:06.846
There was just no Bible.

1202
01:00:07.066 --> 01:00:08.787
There was no reference to God.

1203
01:00:08.807 --> 01:00:10.207
There was no church.

1204
01:00:10.347 --> 01:00:11.688
I had never been to church in my life.

1205
01:00:11.868 --> 01:00:19.110
That said, at a very young age, my first understanding that Jesus might be somebody important

1206
01:00:19.944 --> 01:00:30.933
was when my dad would curse, he would, let's say he dropped the brick on his foot, out would fly the words GD and Jesus Christ.

1207
01:00:33.516 --> 01:00:37.699
I began early on thinking, whoever Jesus is, he must be very important.

1208
01:00:37.879 --> 01:00:38.100
Thank you.

1209
01:00:39.498 --> 01:00:39.778
Right?

1210
01:00:39.978 --> 01:00:41.479
So your dad used him in vain.

1211
01:00:41.739 --> 01:00:55.046
Believe it or not, God used my dad's pain or frustration to sow the seeds of evangelism in my heart because Jesus must be somebody important if he's being tied to God in this event.

1212
01:00:55.287 --> 01:00:56.507
That said, fast forward.

1213
01:00:58.868 --> 01:01:07.133
Why do you think in all of the world, and Lisa and I actually experienced this, we got off shortly after the wall came down

1214
01:01:10.023 --> 01:01:13.644
We land in Moscow taking a group of people to preach the gospel.

1215
01:01:14.104 --> 01:01:14.924
This is early on.

1216
01:01:14.984 --> 01:01:19.285
I mean, some of it's still going down.

1217
01:01:20.645 --> 01:01:28.607
We're on the streets, and we don't understand Russian, but I don't know what happened.

1218
01:01:28.627 --> 01:01:32.188
The guy slammed his finger in the door or got upset.

1219
01:01:32.248 --> 01:01:33.028
I don't know what it was.

1220
01:01:33.048 --> 01:01:33.628
It doesn't matter.

1221
01:01:34.605 --> 01:01:40.749
But out of all of this, there is Russian talk, there was Russian talk, and oh, Jesus Christ.

1222
01:01:40.769 --> 01:01:41.889
Is that his Russian?

1223
01:01:42.930 --> 01:01:45.832
You know, the Russian words, and then, what was that?

1224
01:01:46.972 --> 01:01:47.993
I just understood something.

1225
01:01:48.033 --> 01:01:48.193
Yeah.

1226
01:01:49.434 --> 01:01:50.554
Jesus Christ was said.

1227
01:01:50.594 --> 01:01:52.095
The guy was cursing, Jesus Christ.

1228
01:01:52.876 --> 01:01:54.056
It's the same wherever you go.

1229
01:01:54.897 --> 01:01:56.778
Why does that, why, why?

1230
01:01:58.305 --> 01:02:02.228
Has anyone ever dropped a brick on their foot and not said Muhammad?

1231
01:02:02.508 --> 01:02:03.108
No, no.

1232
01:02:03.268 --> 01:02:03.468
Why?

1233
01:02:04.009 --> 01:02:06.150
Well, obviously one will kill you, the other one will save you.

1234
01:02:07.411 --> 01:02:08.271
Jesus will save you.

1235
01:02:08.572 --> 01:02:09.072
That's true.

1236
01:02:09.092 --> 01:02:13.415
You drop a brick on your foot, Muhammad would come, he would cut off your foot.

1237
01:02:13.435 --> 01:02:15.716
Innately, they know that Jesus will save you.

1238
01:02:15.756 --> 01:02:16.497
Isn't that something?

1239
01:02:16.957 --> 01:02:19.178
Whereas you do Muhammad, he didn't even exist.

1240
01:02:19.198 --> 01:02:20.339
What a waste of time.

1241
01:02:22.515 --> 01:02:26.358
I hate to say it that they use his name in vain, but nonetheless, can you see what you're saying?

1242
01:02:26.378 --> 01:02:31.941
And what this tells all of us is they still know that there is only one person that can help them with their pain.

1243
01:02:31.961 --> 01:02:35.964
There's only one person that can help them with their salvation, and that is Jesus Christ.

1244
01:02:36.324 --> 01:02:38.666
So in some ways, thank you for mentioning him.

1245
01:02:38.886 --> 01:02:40.387
Thank you that you do acknowledge that.

1246
01:02:40.587 --> 01:02:41.868
It's just you don't want to follow him.

1247
01:02:42.903 --> 01:02:43.303
There you go.

1248
01:02:43.323 --> 01:02:43.704
Come on home.

1249
01:02:43.804 --> 01:02:44.264
Come on home.

1250
01:02:44.644 --> 01:02:45.946
No, you mentioned Muhammad.

1251
01:02:46.046 --> 01:02:48.988
And if he didn't even exist, I mean, I have to be careful.

1252
01:02:49.369 --> 01:02:51.410
There was a Muhammad at some time.

1253
01:02:51.450 --> 01:02:53.532
He was then created to become that.

1254
01:02:53.872 --> 01:02:58.016
Just like, just like there was a Robin Hood possibly.

1255
01:02:58.376 --> 01:02:59.417
There was an Arthur.

1256
01:02:59.517 --> 01:03:03.901
Arthurian legend is based on somebody, but he did not have 12 knights and there was no round table.

1257
01:03:03.921 --> 01:03:06.303
And there was probably no one named Guinevere and Sir Lancelot.

1258
01:03:06.363 --> 01:03:09.746
All of these, you have to add to it to make the story believable.

1259
01:03:10.006 --> 01:03:14.430
A man by that name that was embellished.

1260
01:03:15.290 --> 01:03:20.275
But he certainly didn't receive a book called the Quran because almost all of it comes from the north.

1261
01:03:20.495 --> 01:03:21.035
Much later.

1262
01:03:21.275 --> 01:03:22.577
And it's all from our material.

1263
01:03:22.897 --> 01:03:24.238
It's all borrowed from our material.

1264
01:03:24.258 --> 01:03:24.959
This is true.

1265
01:03:25.179 --> 01:03:27.260
Over by many, many different individuals.

1266
01:03:27.401 --> 01:03:32.725
And so the Quran that we have today, even the manuscripts that we have in the 8th century, none of them are complete.

1267
01:03:33.329 --> 01:03:34.611
They're all over the place.

1268
01:03:34.651 --> 01:03:38.717
They don't agree with each other, and they don't completely agree with the Quran we have today.

1269
01:03:38.757 --> 01:03:40.259
And this is from the 8th and 9th century.

1270
01:03:40.900 --> 01:03:44.264
Even going up, we don't even know when the first Quran was finally finalized.

1271
01:03:44.284 --> 01:03:47.489
So it obviously did not come from somebody who died in 632.

1272
01:03:48.619 --> 01:03:57.130
and then compiled in its complete form in 652 by a scribe named Zaidi bin Thabit under the authority of Uthman.

1273
01:03:57.391 --> 01:04:01.296
That pretty much is fictitious and certainly not from a place called Mecca.

1274
01:04:01.576 --> 01:04:02.578
We can't find any reference.

1275
01:04:02.598 --> 01:04:04.921
So throw those out from the 7th century

1276
01:04:05.623 --> 01:04:12.928
And then you're going to say, well, if this man didn't exist or this book didn't exist, that everything that Muslims are dependent on is based on a fraud.

1277
01:04:13.448 --> 01:04:14.809
How are they going to salvage that?

1278
01:04:14.869 --> 01:04:17.611
And how are they going to support that?

1279
01:04:17.631 --> 01:04:21.994
Well, the only thing they have left to do is to make sure they censor anybody from attacking that.

1280
01:04:22.713 --> 01:04:24.435
That's why you have all the censorship going on.

1281
01:04:24.755 --> 01:04:25.756
We don't censor anything.

1282
01:04:25.816 --> 01:04:25.976
No.

1283
01:04:26.156 --> 01:04:27.658
Why would we censor Jesus Christ?

1284
01:04:27.898 --> 01:04:28.058
Yeah.

1285
01:04:28.258 --> 01:04:29.259
He is our best defense.

1286
01:04:29.439 --> 01:04:35.585
I want everybody, I want you to throw everything you can at Jesus Christ and I just sit back and let Jesus defend himself.

1287
01:04:35.745 --> 01:04:36.026
Yeah.

1288
01:04:36.566 --> 01:04:37.907
There's just not a thing you can throw.

1289
01:04:38.268 --> 01:04:42.331
Everybody loves, as I say this all the time, Muslims come to me and say, we love Jesus.

1290
01:04:42.371 --> 01:04:43.152
Of course you do.

1291
01:04:43.172 --> 01:04:44.293
Who doesn't love Jesus?

1292
01:04:44.333 --> 01:04:45.695
Even Madonna loves Jesus.

1293
01:04:46.255 --> 01:04:47.955
Even the most secular people love Jesus.

1294
01:04:48.215 --> 01:04:49.656
That's why they use his name in vain.

1295
01:04:49.816 --> 01:04:50.016
Yeah.

1296
01:04:50.156 --> 01:04:53.037
Because he is the most practical person.

1297
01:04:53.297 --> 01:04:55.717
He is probably certainly the best model.

1298
01:04:55.977 --> 01:04:58.338
It's just that we can't live what he lives.

1299
01:04:58.538 --> 01:05:00.879
We try our best to live at his standards.

1300
01:05:00.899 --> 01:05:01.099
Yeah.

1301
01:05:01.219 --> 01:05:03.519
But he is the standard for everybody to live by.

1302
01:05:03.539 --> 01:05:03.659
Yeah.

1303
01:05:03.839 --> 01:05:05.000
So why don't you come on home to him?

1304
01:05:05.300 --> 01:05:05.440
Amen.

1305
01:05:05.480 --> 01:05:06.400
He's a much better man.

1306
01:05:06.600 --> 01:05:07.760
He's a much better model.

1307
01:05:08.240 --> 01:05:14.802
And goodness sake, even if you want to throw aspersions against him, make sure that at some point you come back to him.

1308
01:05:15.042 --> 01:05:15.482
Amen.

1309
01:05:16.002 --> 01:05:16.803
Absolutely stunning.

1310
01:05:18.263 --> 01:05:20.444
So what's going on in America right now?

1311
01:05:22.044 --> 01:05:26.885
The Muslim, the average American Muslim family, they're in America.

1312
01:05:27.085 --> 01:05:29.746
They've been born and raised here.

1313
01:05:31.707 --> 01:05:36.108
What do they want regarding their doctors or their...

1314
01:05:37.710 --> 01:05:41.511
whatever they are, they have a career, they have a home, they have a family.

1315
01:05:42.671 --> 01:05:44.852
Islam is advancing in the United States.

1316
01:05:45.552 --> 01:05:46.693
What do they think about this?

1317
01:05:47.333 --> 01:05:49.413
Do they think they're winning and this is going to be great?

1318
01:05:50.053 --> 01:05:58.656
Or do they want to have their life at peace as it is, enjoy their wealth and their life

1319
01:05:59.897 --> 01:06:00.698
And it's good?

1320
01:06:01.398 --> 01:06:05.221
Or do they see what's advancing in America as something that even threatens them?

1321
01:06:05.441 --> 01:06:06.022
Yes, to both.

1322
01:06:06.362 --> 01:06:07.363
Let me explain what I mean.

1323
01:06:08.063 --> 01:06:11.245
This happened back when 9-11 happened.

1324
01:06:11.305 --> 01:06:12.546
I was in Britain at that time.

1325
01:06:12.746 --> 01:06:13.967
Actually, I was in the States when it happened.

1326
01:06:13.987 --> 01:06:19.792
But back in Britain, the month after those atrocities happened here in the United States, they put out a survey.

1327
01:06:19.912 --> 01:06:21.393
They went to about 10,000 Muslims.

1328
01:06:21.953 --> 01:06:23.034
And they asked a simple question.

1329
01:06:23.074 --> 01:06:24.255
Do you support al-Qaeda?

1330
01:06:25.704 --> 01:06:27.648
Do you support, now let's go on your right.

1331
01:06:27.788 --> 01:06:29.652
So over here on the right, that's Al Qaeda.

1332
01:06:29.672 --> 01:06:30.474
They would be radical.

1333
01:06:30.534 --> 01:06:33.019
Radical means that they are like a radical number.

1334
01:06:33.059 --> 01:06:34.261
They go down to the foundation.

1335
01:06:34.281 --> 01:06:35.764
They're Orthodox Muslims.

1336
01:06:35.784 --> 01:06:36.546
Do you support that?

1337
01:06:38.251 --> 01:06:43.936
And, or do you support, you're not sure where you stand on this?

1338
01:06:43.976 --> 01:06:48.340
So that would be the, so you have the radicals here, the nominalists in the middle who don't understand what's going on.

1339
01:06:48.600 --> 01:06:49.261
They're confused.

1340
01:06:49.281 --> 01:06:50.542
They would still call themselves Muslims.

1341
01:06:50.782 --> 01:06:53.384
And then you have re-liberals on the left who have left Islam.

1342
01:06:53.404 --> 01:06:54.425
They want nothing to do with it.

1343
01:06:54.465 --> 01:06:56.647
They've come to Britain to get away from it.

1344
01:06:56.687 --> 01:06:59.330
And many of them are academics in our academic institutions.

1345
01:06:59.830 --> 01:07:03.013
About 15% where it said yes over here on the right

1346
01:07:03.945 --> 01:07:04.826
That's a big number.

1347
01:07:05.046 --> 01:07:06.707
70% said, we're not sure.

1348
01:07:06.727 --> 01:07:07.668
We don't understand.

1349
01:07:07.748 --> 01:07:08.188
70.

1350
01:07:08.428 --> 01:07:09.249
70, 7-0.

1351
01:07:09.969 --> 01:07:13.452
And the last 15% said, we are liberal.

1352
01:07:13.532 --> 01:07:14.933
We want nothing to do with it.

1353
01:07:14.973 --> 01:07:16.714
We're glad to be here in the United Kingdom.

1354
01:07:17.315 --> 01:07:18.996
Thank God we're in a peaceful place finally.

1355
01:07:19.396 --> 01:07:20.757
Now, that was in October of 2001.

1356
01:07:23.797 --> 01:07:26.602
The next year in 2002, they did the same survey again.

1357
01:07:26.622 --> 01:07:27.563
They asked the same question.

1358
01:07:27.583 --> 01:07:28.885
Do you still support Al-Qaeda?

1359
01:07:29.466 --> 01:07:34.254
This group here that had been 15% had grown to 25%, all taken from the middle.

1360
01:07:35.177 --> 01:08:01.594
still 15 over here interest in 2006 they asked the same question now where do you stand and this group that had been 15 to 25 now was 43 no almost half of the muslims had moved to the right all taken from the middle so what's going on well i was there watching this happen i saw and a lot of was the sheikh muhammad himself who was going from university to university and being uh being recorded

1361
01:08:02.034 --> 01:08:07.898
And then this was going on, back then it was these videotapes, you know, these box videotapes, VHSs.

1362
01:08:08.378 --> 01:08:14.562
And they were going through and watching and seeing that really what this Al-Qaeda was doing was exactly what Muhammad said.

1363
01:08:15.082 --> 01:08:23.448
It's right there in the Quran, in chapter 9, verse 5, in chapter 8, verse 39, in chapter 47, verse 4, verse after verse after verse after verse, chapter 5, verse 38.

1364
01:08:23.528 --> 01:08:27.951
I mean, there's so many verses to support what Al-Qaeda is doing in the Quran itself.

1365
01:08:28.251 --> 01:08:31.693
And so they were being radicalized just by opening up and reading the Quran.

1366
01:08:32.363 --> 01:08:35.585
Now, so it depends on who's standing in front of you.

1367
01:08:35.845 --> 01:08:37.846
You're going to have the same thing here in the United States.

1368
01:08:38.346 --> 01:08:44.070
I would say probably right now, it's probably 15, 70, 15 as well here in the United States.

1369
01:08:44.550 --> 01:08:46.271
It would be interesting to see if that were the case.

1370
01:08:46.651 --> 01:08:48.212
This may be a little bit bigger than 15.

1371
01:08:48.853 --> 01:08:52.735
So if you're talking to a radical Muslim here, they would agree with you.

1372
01:08:52.815 --> 01:08:54.616
Yes, this is what we're supposed to do.

1373
01:08:54.656 --> 01:08:55.556
This is our agenda.

1374
01:08:55.997 --> 01:08:57.478
We want to take over America.

1375
01:08:57.538 --> 01:08:59.979
We are here to make sure because this is God's law.

1376
01:09:00.564 --> 01:09:03.566
We don't believe in democracy because democracy is man's law.

1377
01:09:04.046 --> 01:09:05.407
Man can never stand against God.

1378
01:09:05.667 --> 01:09:07.629
God has always instituted his law.

1379
01:09:08.089 --> 01:09:16.594
Now, we would agree with that, but we know that democracy allows us to introduce God's law through all the functions of government.

1380
01:09:16.654 --> 01:09:18.676
And that's why in Acts 13, Paul says,

1381
01:09:23.179 --> 01:09:26.362
He says, we must give authority to the governments.

1382
01:09:26.382 --> 01:09:26.823
Is that right?

1383
01:09:26.843 --> 01:09:27.423
Romans 13.

1384
01:09:27.483 --> 01:09:29.205
Romans 13, not Acts 13, Romans 13.

1385
01:09:29.605 --> 01:09:34.250
So we must adhere to the government unless it does not superimpose or above our law.

1386
01:09:34.931 --> 01:09:40.316
So we would understand that, but we always also realize that they do not have any Romans 13.

1387
01:09:41.449 --> 01:09:42.951
They just know that they are to obey it.

1388
01:09:42.971 --> 01:09:43.831
That's what Islam means.

1389
01:09:43.891 --> 01:09:47.635
As you just said a few minutes ago, they are to obey it and submit to it.

1390
01:09:47.775 --> 01:09:50.798
You don't ridicule it, you don't criticize it, you don't even question it.

1391
01:09:51.259 --> 01:09:53.681
Now the people in the middle, they're confused on either side.

1392
01:09:54.202 --> 01:09:57.865
And that's why you'll find most of those who come to America are refugees there in the middle.

1393
01:09:58.146 --> 01:09:59.707
They've had no theological background.

1394
01:10:00.248 --> 01:10:02.390
They have grown up in a Muslim environment.

1395
01:10:02.750 --> 01:10:05.633
They have left because of economic reasons, because of warfare.

1396
01:10:06.343 --> 01:10:16.365
The vast majority of refugees that come to our country are in this group and they tend to be Muslim because almost all the warfare and all the violence happening around the world, surprise, surprise is happening in Muslim countries.

1397
01:10:17.466 --> 01:10:28.468
And then you have the liberals on this side and they are in a dilemma because they know that they still do want to call themselves Muslims, but they are the Rashid of Tlaibs.

1398
01:10:28.488 --> 01:10:30.389
I was just gonna say, is that the Mamdani?

1399
01:10:30.749 --> 01:10:31.929
They're not Mamdani.

1400
01:10:32.449 --> 01:10:34.990
Mamdani is, okay, let's say Mamdani, but not Saeed.

1401
01:10:36.193 --> 01:10:37.475
Sidewood would not be there.

1402
01:10:37.815 --> 01:10:38.876
He is not a liberal.

1403
01:10:39.196 --> 01:10:40.338
He's more over here.

1404
01:10:40.458 --> 01:10:41.539
He knows what he's saying.

1405
01:10:41.559 --> 01:10:42.380
He knows what he's doing.

1406
01:10:42.400 --> 01:10:45.163
He has a PhD and he also has a medical degree.

1407
01:10:45.563 --> 01:10:46.544
He is an academic.

1408
01:10:46.584 --> 01:10:48.186
He understands exactly what's going on.

1409
01:10:48.206 --> 01:10:49.488
But is he considered radical?

1410
01:10:49.908 --> 01:10:51.490
He is considered very radical.

1411
01:10:51.530 --> 01:10:52.791
I mean, look what the first thing he said.

1412
01:10:53.312 --> 01:10:54.533
We want to bring Sharia law.

1413
01:10:55.015 --> 01:10:59.837
And when asked by Jesse Waters there on Facts News, he said, why do you want to bring Shuddy of Law here?

1414
01:11:00.137 --> 01:11:02.858
He said, well, you have canon law, so why not?

1415
01:11:03.138 --> 01:11:04.959
Without thinking how stupid that sounds.

1416
01:11:04.979 --> 01:11:06.639
And I wish Jesse had learned his lesson.

1417
01:11:06.819 --> 01:11:10.441
Jesse should have come back to him and say, canon law is only for those who participate in the canon.

1418
01:11:10.461 --> 01:11:12.281
He got caught with his theology down.

1419
01:11:12.441 --> 01:11:16.823
And he says, you cannot, canon law doesn't affect you and me, but Shuddy of Law affects all of us.

1420
01:11:17.623 --> 01:11:20.366
So that should have been shut down in that discussion.

1421
01:11:20.686 --> 01:11:24.429
Nonetheless, can you see, he is very clear that he wants to bring Shari Allah to the country.

1422
01:11:24.449 --> 01:11:25.310
Absolutely, no doubt.

1423
01:11:25.330 --> 01:11:28.273
Remember, he is born here, so that means he could be president.

1424
01:11:29.254 --> 01:11:30.595
That's why he's a lot more dangerous.

1425
01:11:30.975 --> 01:11:36.841
And he was chosen by Bill Clinton in 2007 because he saw what a great speaker he was.

1426
01:11:36.861 --> 01:11:39.863
Well, he's very charismatic, highly educated, like you said.

1427
01:11:40.063 --> 01:11:41.765
So this is the man we need to be careful of.

1428
01:11:41.905 --> 01:11:42.686
Yeah, I agree.

1429
01:11:43.215 --> 01:11:48.018
And that's why in many respects, this is a man I want to spend more time confronting.

1430
01:11:48.658 --> 01:11:55.223
The Talibs of the world and the Ilham Omars, they're in some ways, they have done so many stupid things.

1431
01:11:55.263 --> 01:11:57.684
I mean, Ilham Omar is gonna have a huge problem with all that fraud.

1432
01:11:57.944 --> 01:11:59.745
Exactly, she's in big trouble as you and I speak.

1433
01:11:59.765 --> 01:12:02.247
She's in big trouble with her marriage and she's in big trouble with fraud.

1434
01:12:02.627 --> 01:12:03.027
Money is support.

1435
01:12:03.047 --> 01:12:04.568
So I'm not too worried about her.

1436
01:12:04.628 --> 01:12:05.649
I'm much more worried outside.

1437
01:12:05.929 --> 01:12:10.252
But I'm also more worried about Yassad Qadi, who is the one that's interpreting this for the whole world.

1438
01:12:10.945 --> 01:12:12.506
And that's why we need to be careful.

1439
01:12:12.546 --> 01:12:13.586
We need to get our antenna up.

1440
01:12:13.947 --> 01:12:22.271
And we need to make sure that these two laws that they want to impose, AB 2017 and AB 1803, that they want to bring here to California.

1441
01:12:22.751 --> 01:12:23.912
I'm so glad you've got that.

1442
01:12:24.192 --> 01:12:25.353
You're handing out that leaflet.

1443
01:12:25.593 --> 01:12:26.593
Hand it out to everybody.

1444
01:12:26.633 --> 01:12:28.954
Those must be squashed.

1445
01:12:29.495 --> 01:12:35.518
We cannot have Islamic institutions brought part of our calendar, and we cannot have hate speech.

1446
01:12:35.978 --> 01:12:40.439
That's ill-defined hate speech imposed on all of our, including you in the church.

1447
01:12:40.459 --> 01:12:44.180
You're going to have to take these classes on what to say and what not to say.

1448
01:12:44.580 --> 01:12:48.821
The church cannot be told that because we separate ourselves from the state for that reason.

1449
01:12:48.841 --> 01:12:52.122
So we can always impose on the state whenever they impose on us.

1450
01:12:52.142 --> 01:12:52.642
Exactly.

1451
01:12:52.762 --> 01:12:53.982
And what back against it?

1452
01:12:54.062 --> 01:12:54.642
Who said it?

1453
01:12:54.702 --> 01:13:00.864
Some great, some great divine of old said that the, that the church is the conscience of the state.

1454
01:13:01.524 --> 01:13:02.064
I like that.

1455
01:13:03.197 --> 01:13:05.298
The state is out doing what state stuff does.

1456
01:13:05.338 --> 01:13:10.242
Well, everywhere I go, everybody talks about you because you are such a great spokesman on these issues.

1457
01:13:10.822 --> 01:13:15.245
You're one of the few ones that actually gets up and says it and actually gets hammered for it.

1458
01:13:15.925 --> 01:13:16.566
Yeah.

1459
01:13:16.606 --> 01:13:18.007
God bless you, Jack, for what you do.

1460
01:13:18.027 --> 01:13:21.769
And that's one reason why I work with you because you've got a backbone that very few have.

1461
01:13:22.390 --> 01:13:29.634
Well, I tell you what, brother, God has been good in my life rescuing me from an abortion.

1462
01:13:29.654 --> 01:13:30.655
Yeah.

1463
01:13:31.715 --> 01:13:33.837
having a lot of problems and issues growing up.

1464
01:13:34.897 --> 01:13:40.081
On June 20th, 1977, Jesus was looking for me.

1465
01:13:40.401 --> 01:13:41.942
I cannot say I was looking for him.

1466
01:13:42.683 --> 01:13:45.585
And he tackled me, won me over in an instant.

1467
01:13:46.405 --> 01:13:52.009
I knew that I was just absolutely, when I heard the gospel, I knew that my life was in great peril.

1468
01:13:52.109 --> 01:13:52.770
You know what you are.

1469
01:13:53.250 --> 01:13:54.431
You're a soul who's become a Paul.

1470
01:13:55.832 --> 01:13:57.013
He definitely changed my name.

1471
01:13:58.314 --> 01:13:59.514
Yeah, he did that in an instant.

1472
01:13:59.534 --> 01:14:00.455
Saul has become a Paul.

1473
01:14:00.735 --> 01:14:05.196
And these men like you and your wife, they're the people we're looking for.

1474
01:14:05.896 --> 01:14:07.477
Because you are opinion leaders.

1475
01:14:07.757 --> 01:14:09.257
You are highly gifted.

1476
01:14:09.577 --> 01:14:11.938
You are amazingly gifted in your communication skills.

1477
01:14:12.358 --> 01:14:13.498
You have an enormous background.

1478
01:14:13.518 --> 01:14:15.819
But look what you've come from.

1479
01:14:16.059 --> 01:14:17.259
What a testimony you have.

1480
01:14:18.019 --> 01:14:20.180
And that's why you can speak better than I can speak.

1481
01:14:20.240 --> 01:14:22.801
As I've grown up in a Christian home, I don't have your story.

1482
01:14:23.601 --> 01:14:26.262
I think we have different stories, Jay, because...

1483
01:14:27.727 --> 01:14:37.050
For such a time as this, it is so obvious that God has got you in this position where the church needs to hear you.

1484
01:14:38.450 --> 01:14:41.011
The Muslims are hearing you.

1485
01:14:42.751 --> 01:14:54.535
And so what we're all about is getting you more and more exposed with hopes that, yes, of course, that Muslims would come to the light, come to the truth.

1486
01:14:55.726 --> 01:15:04.413
But the church needs to wake up to get equipped to bring that light and that truth to the Muslim in their community.

1487
01:15:05.374 --> 01:15:10.618
And I'm not disparaging missionary work.

1488
01:15:10.818 --> 01:15:11.518
We support that.

1489
01:15:12.099 --> 01:15:15.842
But it is clear that in America, the mission field has come to our neighborhood.

1490
01:15:16.582 --> 01:15:18.344
And we need to be equipped to take care of that.

1491
01:15:19.625 --> 01:15:20.526
As we wrap this up.

1492
01:15:21.730 --> 01:15:23.251
what are some of the final words?

1493
01:15:23.351 --> 01:15:24.552
What are some of the projects?

1494
01:15:25.232 --> 01:15:26.894
What are some of the things that excite you?

1495
01:15:29.435 --> 01:15:39.321
And I know that some of the things that we've talked about off camera, I'm praying that there's the coming opportunity for you and I to be in Tehran.

1496
01:15:41.443 --> 01:15:42.664
So you're giving it away already.

1497
01:15:43.004 --> 01:15:43.284
Yeah.

1498
01:15:43.524 --> 01:15:44.765
We're letting it out.

1499
01:15:44.785 --> 01:15:49.788
You're going to have to say it because I've been saying, I accidentally said it on Wednesday and I wasn't supposed to.

1500
01:15:49.848 --> 01:15:51.189
I hope you've clipped that out, right?

1501
01:15:51.785 --> 01:15:53.807
Okay, so I'm not going to say any more about that.

1502
01:15:54.367 --> 01:15:54.607
Yeah.

1503
01:15:54.647 --> 01:15:57.169
What I'm going to say, Jack, is, and I'm going to, which camera should I look at?

1504
01:15:57.189 --> 01:15:57.509
This one?

1505
01:15:58.230 --> 01:15:59.091
I want to talk to Muslims.

1506
01:15:59.691 --> 01:16:00.532
I really want to talk to them.

1507
01:16:00.952 --> 01:16:01.993
Because I know you're listening.

1508
01:16:02.093 --> 01:16:04.034
This is one of the few channels you do listen to.

1509
01:16:04.054 --> 01:16:09.218
And I know that you don't, you probably have not appreciated some of the things that Jack and I have been saying right now.

1510
01:16:09.899 --> 01:16:10.739
But let me just say this.

1511
01:16:11.080 --> 01:16:11.440
Remember.

1512
01:16:12.328 --> 01:16:13.469
You are here in America.

1513
01:16:13.529 --> 01:16:15.111
Many of you have come from Muslim countries.

1514
01:16:15.151 --> 01:16:19.016
You have left what you've come from because of what's happening in your own countries.

1515
01:16:19.636 --> 01:16:24.742
Your countries, show me any Muslim country that's been successful outside of having oil wealth.

1516
01:16:24.962 --> 01:16:28.406
If you didn't have any oil wealth, none of the Middle East would be successful.

1517
01:16:28.626 --> 01:16:29.948
And that has nothing to do with Islam.

1518
01:16:30.668 --> 01:16:42.071
The fact that you're coming from countries that are failing, they're enormously failing on every front, politically, economically, certainly when it comes to the social fabric of your countries, they're failing.

1519
01:16:42.251 --> 01:16:44.211
And you're not coming to Muslim countries.

1520
01:16:44.451 --> 01:16:46.392
You're not going to the Middle East where there's lots of money.

1521
01:16:46.632 --> 01:16:48.112
You're coming here to United States.

1522
01:16:48.452 --> 01:16:49.233
And you're coming to Europe.

1523
01:16:49.313 --> 01:16:52.513
Why are you coming here when you should be going to other Muslim countries?

1524
01:16:52.673 --> 01:16:53.894
Because they're much closer to you.

1525
01:16:54.374 --> 01:16:56.034
They have the same background.

1526
01:16:56.054 --> 01:16:57.094
They have the same cultural grid.

1527
01:16:57.375 --> 01:16:59.135
Why are you coming to this country?

1528
01:16:59.535 --> 01:17:01.577
Because there's something about America that you love.

1529
01:17:01.838 --> 01:17:02.599
I'll tell you what it is.

1530
01:17:03.199 --> 01:17:10.248
It's based, everything that we, our constitution, the way we live, the way we function, the choices we make are based on the Bible.

1531
01:17:10.763 --> 01:17:12.543
We are a Judeo-Christian country.

1532
01:17:12.884 --> 01:17:32.668
Now, you may not like that to hear that, but the reason why everything is successful, the reason it's so attractive, the reason we have so many jobs, the reason our economy is spinning along so fast and giving you jobs and giving you the freedom to go to the mosque, even build your mosque, and to worship and to evangelize, something I can't do in your countries.

1533
01:17:33.368 --> 01:17:34.128
I can't do that.

1534
01:17:34.509 --> 01:17:35.589
I'm not permitted to do that.

1535
01:17:35.969 --> 01:17:36.189
Why?

1536
01:17:36.429 --> 01:17:38.830
Because if I were permitted, you would all come home to us.

1537
01:17:39.370 --> 01:17:40.450
You'd all become Christians.

1538
01:17:41.030 --> 01:17:45.314
But we allow you to do that here, knowing that, why don't you just come on home?

1539
01:17:46.034 --> 01:17:52.380
Why don't you just come home and become part of what Jesus has done, the great things he's done in this country and in Europe.

1540
01:17:52.780 --> 01:17:53.881
Europe is falling back now.

1541
01:17:54.521 --> 01:18:05.190
But do you realize that if you follow the precept of Jesus Christ, if you follow what he did and do what he said, just look at his example, his Sira and his Hadith, his example and his sayings.

1542
01:18:05.818 --> 01:18:07.799
Look and see how easy your life will be for you.

1543
01:18:07.819 --> 01:18:10.120
But more than that, you want eternal life.

1544
01:18:10.580 --> 01:18:12.801
It's not good enough just what's happening here in the United States.

1545
01:18:13.181 --> 01:18:18.283
I want to be with that man, and I want to be walking and talking with Jesus again, and you can do the same.

1546
01:18:18.623 --> 01:18:20.824
All you need to do is just accept what he did on the cross.

1547
01:18:21.605 --> 01:18:22.865
That's all we're saying.

1548
01:18:22.905 --> 01:18:23.745
You don't have to pay it.

1549
01:18:23.765 --> 01:18:29.488
You don't have to work it off like you believe, working off and doing all your buttoke, buttoke, buttoke, buttoke with that angel sitting on their shoulder.

1550
01:18:29.748 --> 01:18:31.149
You cannot get to God that way.

1551
01:18:31.349 --> 01:18:33.189
You've got to come through what Jesus did for you.

1552
01:18:33.750 --> 01:18:34.550
He died for you.

1553
01:18:35.033 --> 01:18:35.913
He rose for you.

1554
01:18:36.293 --> 01:18:39.254
That happened 2,000 years ago, and he did it exactly for you.

1555
01:18:39.954 --> 01:18:42.015
It doesn't choose just this person here and that.

1556
01:18:42.255 --> 01:18:45.636
He says anybody that believes that he died and rose again, that's all it takes.

1557
01:18:45.656 --> 01:18:46.936
It doesn't cost you a cent.

1558
01:18:47.296 --> 01:18:48.876
Why don't you come on home to that, Jesus?

1559
01:18:49.317 --> 01:18:55.058
Then why don't you start living like he lived and talking like he talked and just see how successful you will be?

1560
01:18:55.458 --> 01:18:57.499
We know it because we've already experienced it.

1561
01:18:57.719 --> 01:18:58.799
Look what Jack came from.

1562
01:18:59.647 --> 01:19:07.362
look at the background that he came out of and just look how god is using him in every case if you just come home to jesus christ you muslims especially

1563
01:19:08.176 --> 01:19:09.257
God's going to come into your life.

1564
01:19:09.277 --> 01:19:18.444
The Holy Spirit's going to infill you, going to give you the words to say, and you're going to start waiting to give a little bit of your steak on your plate while you wait, but wait for the pie in the sky when you die.

1565
01:19:18.684 --> 01:19:19.745
That's what you're really waiting for.

1566
01:19:20.145 --> 01:19:24.308
And that's what I want to offer you to because I want to be with you forever.

1567
01:19:24.709 --> 01:19:26.310
I want to be with you for eternity.

1568
01:19:26.610 --> 01:19:29.993
I'm scared to death what Islam is doing to you, but I love you.

1569
01:19:30.273 --> 01:19:31.234
And I want to be with you.

1570
01:19:31.434 --> 01:19:32.415
And I want to see you with me.

1571
01:19:32.835 --> 01:19:33.355
God bless you.

1572
01:19:33.656 --> 01:19:35.337
It'd be lovely to have you come home.

1573
01:19:36.748 --> 01:19:39.161
And to that, I can only say amen.