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Oct. 1, 2026

A Personal Conversation With The Ambassador

A Personal Conversation With The Ambassador
Jack Hibbs Podcast
A Personal Conversation With The Ambassador

Key Takeaways

  • Pastor Jack Hibbs sits down with Israeli Ambassador Yechiel Leiter for a powerful, unscripted conversation connecting America's founding roots and biblical history to the modern rebirth of the State of Israel.
  • Ambassador Leiter shares his deeply personal family heritage, tracing his lineage from refugees fleeing 20th-century European conflicts to serving in Washington, D.C.
  • The discussion highlights the unprecedented military collaboration between the United States and Israel, emphasizing a shared belief in objective morality and the fight against global evil, particularly the regime in Iran.
  • Drawing on historical events like the Six-Day War and biblical prophecies such as the dry bones in Ezekiel, the episode underscores God's unwavering covenant and protection over the Jewish people and the nation of Israel.

Pastor Jack sits down with Israeli Ambassador Yechiel Leiter for an engaging, personal, and timely conversation covering a broad range of topics - from America’s founding and the rebirth of the State of Israel to Iran and the ongoing conflict in the region. They discuss America’s roots, Israel’s history and independence, the horrific October 7 attack, as well as share personal stories and experiences from their own lives.

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00:00 Introduction: A Personal Conversation With The Ambassador
00:45 Family Heritage: From Refugees to the Oval Office
02:02 Abraham's Revolutionary Message: God Creates Man
02:49 America's Divine Purpose: A Cradle for Israel's Rebirth
04:53 Tucker Carlson's Arrogance and Ignorance
05:38 The Founding Fathers and Biblical Israel
07:32 Epic Fury: The Unprecedented US-Israel Military Collaboration
08:53 The Reality of Good and Evil: Fighting Objective Morality
09:46 Iran and the Reformation of Islam
11:07 The Abraham Accords and Regional Transformation
15:36 The Six-Day War: Modern Miracles and Dry Bones
23:00 Biblical Boundaries: Limiting Human Power
25:42 From Water Shortage to Water Exporter: Israel's Miracle
29:05 John Locke and the Hebrew Bible: The Foundation of America
30:14 Washington DC: Patterned After Jerusalem
33:07 Replacement Theology: A Demonic Doctrine
34:45 God's Unchanging Covenant: Israel Will Never Be Uprooted
36:55 Fighting for Civilization: The Iranian Revolution's Global Threat
38:10 Discernment Lost: The Lesson of Genesis
38:38 October 7th: The Truth About Hamas and Gaza
41:02 A Father's Loss: Captain Moshe Leiter's Ultimate Sacrifice
42:29 Israel's Moral Warfare: The Lowest Combatant Ratio in History
43:11 The Gaza Reality: 50,000 Evacuated Through Israel
46:17 The Hope of Houses of Worship: Full Parking Lots on Sunday
48:05 A Personal Testimony: From Darkness to the Star of David
52:35 Proverbs 30:4: What is the Name of My Son?
54:30 Carrying the Weight: Captain Moshe's Final Lesson

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Frequently Asked Questions

Who is Yechiel Leiter?

Yechiel Leiter is Israel's ambassador to Washington, D.C., and an engaging speaker with deep family roots tracing back to refugees from Europe.

What is the connection between America's founders and biblical Israel?

The episode explores how America's founding fathers and early pilgrim settlers were deeply influenced by biblical Israel, incorporating scriptural principles into the foundational documents of the United States.

How do the speakers view the U.S.-Israel relationship?

Pastor Jack Hibbs and Ambassador Leiter view the alliance as a vital, historically unprecedented collaboration grounded in shared values, mutual defense against objective evil, and a divine purpose.

Transcript
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Mr.

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Ambassador, I have to tell you that this is something that is unscripted.

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You've walked into this podcast studio moments ago.

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We've never met before.

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I think some of our paths are we might know some people like Ambassador Huckabee.

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Dear friend.

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That's awesome to hear.

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Great man of God.

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You mentioned Dennis Prager.

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It's an honor to meet you.

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Dennis Prager as well.

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Yes.

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Also a good friend.

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And so I want to make sure, in fact, I'm going to try to say your name.

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I'll do the American version is Michael Leiter.

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Right.

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But how would you say it in Hebrew nice and clear?

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Yechiel.

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Yechiel is chai el, which means may God grant life.

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Amen.

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That's my first name.

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That was my great-grandfather's name.

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So I was the firstborn of my family, so I was named after my great-grandfather.

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That's amazing.

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Who came as a refugee from the First World War, Ukraine.

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Yes, oh my goodness.

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1916 to the United States.

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And then my grandfather came as a refugee from Vienna after the Nazis had entered

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Vienna, Austria in the Anschluss of 1938.

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So yeah, I'm here as Israel's ambassador to Washington and I remember the first time I sat down the Oval Office opposite the President of the United States, the Vice President Vance and Secretary Rubio and I'm thinking to myself, boy my dad came to this country with with a crusty piece of bread in his pocket and a quarter in the other pocket.

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He was eight years old and here I am

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you know, sitting in the Oval Office of the President of the United States.

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So it's, you say unscripted.

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Yeah.

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I think most of life is unscripted, right?

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We're all doing plan B.

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God had his plan A in the Garden of Eden.

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Yeah, thank you, Adam.

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And we screwed that up, right?

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Yeah, thanks, Adam.

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So it's all plan B.

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And, you know, listen, the message of Abraham.

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Yes.

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Here we can talk about biblical figures, right?

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Yes.

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We're in the church.

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100%.

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Abraham came with the unscripted message to the world.

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He told the world a thought that man creates God.

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He said, no, no, no, no, no.

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God creates man.

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Man doesn't create God.

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It was a revolutionary message.

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It was also a bit unscripted.

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Yeah.

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So we can follow in his footsteps.

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Absolutely.

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And we will.

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By God's grace, we will continue on.

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Boy, with what you just said a moment ago, my mind's jumping around and I'm telling my old brain right now, boy, I have to remember that and come back around before we come to the conclusion.

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But I can't risk that.

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I want to say this.

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You just talked about how your family came to this country.

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I have.

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In fact, I've had Dennis Brager tell me, Jack, I've never heard a Gentile say what you said.

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And here's what I said.

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I said, Dennis...

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I am so committed to the scriptural record account of God's relationship with Israel and with the Jewish people that I believe that the crafting creation of America, the founding fathers producing documents that almost flirt with inspiration that had never been written before in the history of man.

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All of that's obviously fantastic.

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I actually believe that God created the United States of America to be, as it were, at the very least, a big brother to the future founding of the nation or the reestablishment, I want to say, of the nation of Israel in 1948.

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I believe that God created the United States of America to be almost a nursery, a protective place for the Jew to come here until the time of Aliyah would be available to them.

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I believe that America...

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contrary to Tucker Carlson's pathetic theology, I believe that America has been blessed because how America has treated Israel.

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I believe that America will be blessed based upon how we treat Israel.

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But if we disdain or discomfort Israel, it's not so much the politics of it all, it's the heart of God.

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God says regarding Israel, you're touching the apple of my eye.

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I believe that.

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And so I hold a radical view.

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The United States of America has been a place to cradle the rebirth of the nation of Israel.

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And I think that's why we've got people who, you can say this much more than I, but people like Golda Meir and even Netanyahu himself who spent a great, great, exactly.

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Their roots are here.

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So it is an honor to have you with us.

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It's an honor to be here.

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I can't thank you enough for hosting me.

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Oh, my goodness.

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There's so much in what you said that I'd love to unpack with you.

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Yeah, let's go.

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But, well, first of all, I don't think Tucker has theology.

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I think he has some political notions, and, you know, he maybe dabbled a little bit in some reading, and somebody is probably pushing his buttons.

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There's an incredible, I don't mean to be disparaging of anyone, but there's

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the worst combination, the most toxic combination is arrogance and ignorance.

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There are ignorant people who are humble and there are arrogant people who know a lot.

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But when you've got arrogance and ignorance together, that's the most toxic brew.

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So he should stick to politics and leave theology to yourself and other pastors around the country.

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In any case, it is...

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I know that many are trying to escape this now, but when you go back and look at the founding fathers, they were very much rooted in biblical Israel.

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That's right.

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And they were looking, I mean, this is a big difference between continental philosophy, political philosophy, and the Dutch, English, American political philosophy.

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Whereas continental philosophy abandoned scripture

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The Dutch influenced the English, and they were the remonstrants at the time.

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They were very biblically rooted.

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Absolutely.

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They influenced, of course, the Glorious Revolution in England, which afterwards was translated here into the United States as Founding Fathers.

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I'm sorry to interrupt, but even before that, remember the Pilgrim Fathers back...

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They left England and wound up in Holland for a great period of time.

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That was the influence.

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Exactly.

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And when you look at the speeches of the pastors who came over on the Arbella, for example.

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Yes.

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You know, you're talking about crossing, they saw it as crossing the sea, right?

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Crossing the ocean was crossing the...

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That's what Sam Adams said.

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They were going to liberation.

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Absolutely.

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And John Adams wrote to his wife something very similar.

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And there's an incident about Jefferson coming out of church on Sunday, and he was stopped by someone who said, Mr. Jefferson, I didn't know you attended church on Sunday.

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on Sundays, and he said, well, for the sake of the future of the United States of America, that's what I'm gonna do, that we all have to do that.

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Because it needed to be rooted, even if he wasn't exactly a card-carrying member of the Bible Society, but it needed to be rooted in those values.

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The Founding Fathers understood that.

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So there's this association, this affiliation, which has been grown into the most amazing collaboration that we had over the past year.

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I mean, Pastor, I must tell you this.

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I saw our pilots and your pilots sitting together for months preparing for Epic Fury.

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And in the 12-day war in June, you can't just put 200 F-35s in the sky from Israel and 200 F-35s in the sky from America and fly over enemy territory together without one plane coming down.

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Not a one.

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Okay.

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And nobody bumped into each other.

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Okay.

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Well, there was an incident of three American planes in Kuwait, but when we flew together over Iran, it's hard to explain that just with scientific data.

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It's true.

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But it takes months of preparation.

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And there was never this level of collaboration between two armies.

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And that's because we went together, the United States and Israel, the United States as senior partner.

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Okay, we may be theologically rooted.

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We must be an older partner.

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Well, and your technology ain't so bad either.

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Well, not so bad, but we're the junior partner.

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We know we're the junior partner.

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The United States has interests all over the world.

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We're very local, okay?

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But we flew together in the most incredible, cooperative and collaborative effort to defeat evil.

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In history.

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To defeat evil.

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You know, there's such a difficulty right now.

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We spoke before about, you know, wokeism, right?

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Yep.

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One of the ills of wokeism is that there's no such thing as good and evil.

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There's no objective truth.

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There's no objective morality, right?

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There's no objective good.

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We determined together the depth of this operation against Iran was we were saying, yes, there is such a thing as objective good.

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There is such a thing as objective morality.

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And what Iran represents is objective evil, which needs to be defeated.

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That's what happened on October 7th.

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What is remarkable is the fact that we're hearing more and more that the Persian people, I like to call them the Persian people,

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who in their history, date back, we know this even biblically out of the Old Testament, where Zoroasterism was their religion.

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I was told by someone who's within the movement to bring back the Shah's son, Reza Pavlevi, that the,

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contrary to what the world thinks, that the Iranians are carte blanche Islamic, that that's not the case.

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Oh, not at all.

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That there's a fraction, there's a tiny element of them being Muslim or Islamic.

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They want the yoke of Islam out of their country.

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Well, they certainly want the yoke of this fundamentalist, extreme version of Islam in the country.

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I mean, these mullahs, these ayatollahs, do not represent the people of Iran.

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It's a very small minority that's still represented by them.

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This is a brutal, barbarian, totalitarian regime.

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that represents perhaps 15 to 20% of the people, but with an iron boot on their necks.

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And what they're doing really is exporting this brand of extremism throughout the entire region.

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I mean, think about it.

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You know, if you go into the average university, you go to a Islam expert, he'll tell you, no, the big divide is between the Shiites and the Sunnis.

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It's incorrect.

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That's right.

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The big divide is between the fundamentalist extremists

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And the accommodationists, the moderates.

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You know, when President Trump, God bless him, gave us the Abraham Accords in 2019, 2020, it was a radical change within the region because it put the UAE Bahrain on the side of moderation.

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In a sense, and this is something that the great professor of Islam, Bernard Lewis, who taught at Princeton for many years, he always used to say, he says, you know, Islam has not undergone a reformation yet.

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And the Reformation took place 1,500 years after Jesus.

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We're now 1,500 years after Muhammad.

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Interesting, right?

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And what the Reformation within Islam is dealing with is whether or not to accommodate Judeo-Christian civilization or not.

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Now, if you're a accommodationist, if you're interested in reform, then you're going to say, well, Islam can now live side by side with Judeo-Christian civilization.

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But if you're going to be a counter-

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reformer, if you're going to reject accommodationism, like you're going to reject moderation led by Iran, what's the first thing you're going to do?

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You're going to destroy Israel.

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Absolutely.

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Because Israel is this, you know, Judeo-Christian enclave in the middle of the Middle East.

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A prospering, free, modern state of liberty in a very rough neighborhood.

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So you have Shiites and Sunnis on either side.

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That's why you have Iran supporting Hamas.

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Hamas is Sunni, whereas Iran is Shiite.

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So how does that work out?

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It works out because they are both, first of all, opposed to the West.

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They first say we destroy Western civilization, then we fight out amongst ourselves, Sunni Shias.

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But first we have a common enemy.

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And that's why Iran is exporting this.

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Yes.

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And they're not alone.

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I mean, Qatar,

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That's right.

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Qatar is exporting this form of fundamentalist Islam.

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They do both, by the way.

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It's very dubious what they do.

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Sure.

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Because on the one hand, they support the fire department and then they support the arsonists.

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Right, they support everybody.

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Pouring billions and billions of dollars.

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One thing I can tell you, having been in Washington now for a year and a half, some of the, we'll call it the Tucker Orbit,

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Wow, what a strange word that is.

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They say, you know, Israel, the lobby, the Jewish lobby, the Israel lobby.

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One thing I can tell you with certainty, we do not control Washington.

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I mean, I've got an uphill battle all the time, you know.

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That is so good because so many people will say, oh, the Jews control everything.

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If that's true, then why isn't it going better for them?

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Yeah, it could be going a little better for us.

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Let me tell you, I got my work cut out for us.

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We don't control anything.

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But we could never compete with the amount of money that Qatar is pouring into this country.

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That is.

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You're talking about hundreds of billions of dollars.

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Universities, policy centers.

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K to 12.

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K through 12 education.

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This is true.

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Exactly.

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School books.

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We don't have any lobbying firm in Washington.

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Now, they call AIPAC the lobbying firm, but AIPAC is an American Jewish organization that has the right to say- That's what they say though.

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They'll label you guys something that you're not just for them to fuel their- Qatar has nine lobbying firms in Washington.

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Paid lobbying firms, nine.

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Not including Saudis, not including the others.

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No, no, no, no, we don't have one.

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And AIPAC is operating in what they believe is the best interest of America.

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They believe in America first, they just think part of America first is having a strong Israel, right?

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Can you be condemned for thinking that?

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Well, listen, I'm not an AIPAC, but I believe that it's very much in America's interest to have a strong Israel.

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And I think that relationship has proven in history to be a good one.

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I have a secret for you.

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Yes.

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You're not alone.

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Yes, amen.

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Because almost every American administration, some differences, there are variances, but the reason why the United States of America has supported Israel for so many decades, since the Six-Day War, by the way.

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Before the Six-Day War, not so much, when we proved that we could win.

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When you, uh-huh.

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Right?

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Yes.

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So every administration has supported Israel to one degree or another.

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As long as we mention the Six-Day War, we're having an associative conversation, right?

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So can I go off on a tangent here for a minute?

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Please.

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There's a great book by the American author James Mishner.

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Everybody knows him from the more famous novels he wrote, but there's a little-known novel called The Drifters.

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And in there, he's got a piece about the Six-Day War.

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And he says, you know, we're modern people.

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We don't believe in miracles, right?

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We don't believe in miracles.

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Right.

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So the splitting of the Red Sea, the moon shined on the water.

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We have scientific explanations for it.

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The moon, the water, a windy night, something.

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Says 2000 years from now, there'll be another generation of pseudo intellectual liberals.

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They'll get back to the six day war and they'll say, gee, how did the sons and daughters of soap and lampshades of Auschwitz defeat 150 million enemies in six days?

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You know, war is...

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The moon, the hood.

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No, each day stood for 100 years.

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Oh, gosh.

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It was really the 600 Years War.

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You're interesting.

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This is what's going to happen.

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You're right.

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That's what's going to happen.

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But, you know, think about that for a second.

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You know, 80 years ago, 20 years before the Six Day War, 1967, we were helpless and hopeless.

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I mean, you know, Auschwitz, 12,000 being burned a day,

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And nobody gave a damn.

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That's right.

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Nobody stopped it.

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That's right.

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20 years later, we're flying, you know, Mirage jets that we hijacked from France and defeating 150 million enemies in six days in a war that begins on Sunday morning and ends Friday afternoon to light the Shabbat candles.

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Yes.

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Right?

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And...

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people don't stop and say, gee, could this have something to do with those dry bones in Ezekiel?

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Exactly.

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I mean, you had bones in Auschwitz.

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Bones.

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Those were bones.

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Literal bones.

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Brother, you're getting into Bible prophecy here that is spot on.

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And all of a sudden, well, explain it differently.

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Spot on.

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The challenge isn't for those who can identify biblical prophecy.

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The problem is for those, the challenge is for those who refuse to accept it.

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That's right.

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So, I mean, you know, explain that.

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logically, that a people that's exiled from their land for 2,000 years, that's spread to four corners of the earth, comes back after Auschwitz, the greatest crime committed by mankind to mankind, and loses 1% of its population in 1948, against all odds, creates, recreates, as you so poignantly said before, recreates, recreates, recreates, and then, you know, people forget three weeks before the Six-Day War when Nasser...

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told the president of Egypt, he told the UN.

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Sadat, yes?

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No, no, Sadat came later.

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That came later.

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In 1967 it's Nasser, Gamal Abdel Nasser.

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Got it.

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And he tells, in the aftermath of the 56 operation, which was to open the Suez Canal, which we did together with France and Britain, there were UN troops to keep the peace between Egypt and Israel in Sinai.

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Three weeks before the Six Day War, Nasser said to the troops, get out.

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They got out and he moved 90,000 troops into Sinai.

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And he was asked on television three weeks before the Six Day War, what do you plan to do with 90,000 troops in Sinai?

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You know what he said?

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I'm going to turn the Mediterranean red with Jewish blood.

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He announced it.

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That was his answer.

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I'm going to turn the Mediterranean red with Jewish blood.

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And the press probably laughed.

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And that was even before we had legacy media, right?

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Yeah.

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But, you know, and then we had a prime minister.

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His name was Levi Eshkol.

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He was a lovely grandpa, but he couldn't make a decision about what to do about the garbage collector's strike, the police strike, the teacher's strike.

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And he had to make a decision whether or not to strike first.

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Yeah.

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Wow.

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Can you imagine?

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And he makes that decision.

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Now, you've got to ask yourself, somebody who was hesitant about all of his prime ministerial decisions suddenly takes a decision to launch a preemptive strike.

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Yeah.

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and saves the country and wins the war in six days, is that like not a hidden hand?

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Right?

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I mean, when we study economics, we have no problem saying there's a hidden hand, you know, Adam Smith's idea of a hidden hand.

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Well, is there not a hidden hand to history?

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Isn't it obvious?

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Well, maybe, okay, look, I've been a follower of Yeshua for 50 years.

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So somebody might say, oh, you've been brainwashed.

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Yes, I have.

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My brain has been washed of idiocy and I understand the scripture.

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And in the book of Amos, and Joel, or Yoel, is it?

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Yoel.

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Backs him up.

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Amos, he says, once I gather the people into their land again, again, they shall never again be uprooted.

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He didn't say they'd have no troubles.

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He said they would never again be uprooted.

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And I get a lot of pleasure saying that...

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Since May 14, 1948,

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The state of Israel is not going anywhere.

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And I don't base that on the incredible, awesome might and courage of the IDF or the IAF or the government.

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I say it based upon the promise of God.

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And it's amazing to go to a land where Mark Twain said something to the effect, what a wasteland.

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This is ridiculous.

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It's horrible.

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Only about 60 years before the state was founded.

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Yes.

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It's amazing.

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You go there today—

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For one thing, some of the greatest wines in the world are now produced in Israel.

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But it's so absolutely beautiful that when I show people pictures of Israel where we'll take vast amounts of people on tour of the land and Bible sites, when people take pictures, you would think you're looking at some areas of the Sierra Nevada of California or –

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You know, Colorado or something.

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People don't realize.

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They think it's just a sand pit.

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It's not that at all.

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It's absolutely gorgeous.

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Stunning.

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Why?

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What's happening?

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God said that the land was going to be brought back to life.

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You mentioned Ezekiel.

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Not only the bones would be standing up, but sinew and flesh would be put on them.

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That the land would begin to prosper and produce.

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And.

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And that the people would once again breathe.

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He says, I will put my breath in your nostrils.

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That's reminiscent.

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Back to life.

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It's exactly reminiscent of what God did to a clay mound called Adam.

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He breathed in him the breath of life.

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And so somebody like Tucker will try to school somebody like Tim, Tim, I'm sorry, Ted Cruz and his condescending matter not realizing that, well, you know, are you supposed are you are we supposed to support Israel and everything?

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What is Israel?

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And the answer you can you can ask what what Canada is or a Canadian or Germany and a German country.

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But Tucker's question, if he would only have gotten a good answer that day, should have really straightened him up.

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And that is you cannot answer...

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so simply regarding Israel, because Abraham, God says, I'm going to bless your descendants.

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That's those who believed like Abraham believed, but it's even more than that.

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It's the genetic people.

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It is the promised land.

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I have to tell you, Mr.

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Ambassador, one of the great joys I have as a Gentile teacher of the word of God, I get a lot of pleasure of showing on the screens, the geographical location of the land that God promised to Abraham.

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So, for example, Barack Obama said after his Cairo speech, we want to see Israel return back to her pre-67 borders.

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Immediately from this pulpit, I announced, no, no, no.

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Why stop at 67?

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Why go back to 67?

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Let's keep going.

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You're saying the Jews have no rights and no existence.

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Let's keep going.

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Let's go back.

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Let's go back.

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I got to share something.

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Let's go back to the day that God told Abraham, here's the borders.

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And when you look at that, it has shut the UN up and anybody else because Israel is yet to inhabit its promised borders.

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That day's coming.

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There's so much I'd love to unpack with you about what you just said.

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on the issue of borders, I want to go back to water and the greening of the desert.

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I want to tell you a few things about that.

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But on this issue of borders, you know, in that interview with Ambassador Huckabee, my esteemed colleague, who I'm so honored to serve with at the same time, and I was asked afterwards when...

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when Ambassador Huckabee was attacked over that issue of the borders of Israel.

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Yep.

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So if we believe in the Bible, does that mean that Israel should now occupy Jordan and Iraq and Lebanon?

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You remember when he kind of sarcastically intimated that we're expansionist?

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Yep.

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And I must tell you, I love this discussion about greater Israel.

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You know, our critics say greater Israel.

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We're a country, we're always compared to New Jersey.

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Right.

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But we're not New Jersey because you take out the Negev Desert, right?

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Yeah.

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We're more like half a Rhode Island.

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And people can't begin to understand just how tiny we are.

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So you're talking about greater Israel next to all the countries around us, even Lebanon.

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I mean, we're a fourth of Lebanon.

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It's just astounding.

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But this whole issue of the biblical contours of the land of Israel,

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The biblical contours, the boundaries of Israel was a revolution because it was the first time it was said that only God has an empire over the world.

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That's right.

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It limited boundaries.

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It wasn't meant to expand boundaries.

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It came and said the Nile to the Euphrates meant that you can't go beyond that.

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That's right.

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Okay.

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Exactly right.

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Exactly.

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Not like the Persians and not like the Assyrians and not like the Babylonians.

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Or the Nazis.

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Or the Nazis later.

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Take the world.

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Take the world.

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No, the idea of boundaries in the Bible is a limiting of human capabilities.

434
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It's, you know, you have to stop at a certain place because one man or one nation can't ruin the world.

435
00:25:17.070 --> 00:25:17.930
Only God can ruin the world.

436
00:25:17.950 --> 00:25:18.250
That's right.

437
00:25:18.490 --> 00:25:19.110
Can run the world.

438
00:25:19.450 --> 00:25:21.011
And that was a revolutionary idea.

439
00:25:21.031 --> 00:25:23.911
And it was soiled in that, by Tucker.

440
00:25:23.931 --> 00:25:25.372
It was absolutely soiled.

441
00:25:25.392 --> 00:25:26.512
He soiled the biblical text.

442
00:25:27.292 --> 00:25:34.039
But what I want to say about the development of Israel and what you beautifully described as the greeting of the desert and how much we've developed.

443
00:25:34.660 --> 00:25:39.205
When I came to Israel in 1978, I came to a dormitory.

444
00:25:39.365 --> 00:25:40.326
I went to study rabbinics.

445
00:25:41.708 --> 00:25:44.631
And they told me, you have 90 seconds in the shower.

446
00:25:45.976 --> 00:25:47.657
I said, 90 seconds in the shower.

447
00:25:47.857 --> 00:25:49.597
I come from Scranton, Pennsylvania.

448
00:25:49.877 --> 00:25:50.638
We shower.

449
00:25:50.678 --> 00:25:52.158
Yeah, spend half the day there.

450
00:25:52.218 --> 00:25:54.039
I said, no, we have a shortage of water.

451
00:25:54.399 --> 00:25:58.020
And believe it or not, there was this gizmo on the shower head.

452
00:25:58.040 --> 00:25:58.761
Oh, like a governor?

453
00:25:58.961 --> 00:25:59.541
That shut off.

454
00:25:59.661 --> 00:26:00.481
Yes.

455
00:26:00.561 --> 00:26:01.582
After a certain amount of time.

456
00:26:02.542 --> 00:26:08.564
So today, Pastor, we are a net water exporter.

457
00:26:09.024 --> 00:26:10.345
You're getting me excited here now.

458
00:26:10.585 --> 00:26:10.885
Okay.

459
00:26:11.825 --> 00:26:17.147
In a couple of decades, we went from a water shortage to a net water exporter.

460
00:26:17.167 --> 00:26:18.847
We export water to Jordan.

461
00:26:19.007 --> 00:26:21.248
We export water to the Palestinian territories.

462
00:26:21.708 --> 00:26:23.129
We are a net water exporter.

463
00:26:23.149 --> 00:26:24.569
We have no longer a shortage of water.

464
00:26:24.589 --> 00:26:25.189
87% of water.

465
00:26:26.950 --> 00:26:30.352
of our industrial water is waste water that's recycled.

466
00:26:30.473 --> 00:26:32.134
87%, it's the highest in the world.

467
00:26:33.074 --> 00:26:38.478
And all of these developments we have, you know what we can do in Africa if everybody would just stop fighting with us?

468
00:26:38.878 --> 00:26:43.782
Everybody just stop fighting and let us be and cooperate with us instead of fighting all the time?

469
00:26:44.562 --> 00:26:48.085
There are 900 million people that go to sleep every night hungry.

470
00:26:48.485 --> 00:26:51.447
We could end food insecurity today.

471
00:26:51.887 --> 00:26:56.030
In a five mile radius of Tel Aviv, you've got all the solutions to food insecurity.

472
00:26:57.020 --> 00:27:02.862
What you just said a moment ago, people watching this program right now need to know this loud and clear, and I love what you just said.

473
00:27:03.623 --> 00:27:11.366
The famines that are in the world, they are political or religious, 100% based famines.

474
00:27:12.506 --> 00:27:14.527
They're not... Look, no one...

475
00:27:15.569 --> 00:27:19.192
sits around and tries to eat in the middle of the Sahara Desert, you don't live there for a reason.

476
00:27:19.652 --> 00:27:28.397
But places like Ethiopia, for example, or Sudan, where there shouldn't be any famine, but there are political... Sudan was a breadbasket of Africa.

477
00:27:28.718 --> 00:27:30.799
And now people are suffering.

478
00:27:30.819 --> 00:27:33.140
People say, well, you know, I don't get involved in politics.

479
00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:34.081
Politics, that's dirty.

480
00:27:34.101 --> 00:27:34.982
I don't get involved in that.

481
00:27:35.162 --> 00:27:36.262
I just believe in God.

482
00:27:36.863 --> 00:27:43.187
I just can't stand that comment because when I read my Bible, through Moses, God is the one who invented government.

483
00:27:43.207 --> 00:27:43.467
Right.

484
00:27:44.523 --> 00:27:50.322
What's happened is people, by politicking it the wrong way, have ruined the...

485
00:27:51.323 --> 00:27:53.164
construction of government.

486
00:27:53.404 --> 00:27:55.285
Government is a sacred institution by God.

487
00:27:56.005 --> 00:28:03.289
And you think about how the kings or the leadership that you see throughout scripture.

488
00:28:03.849 --> 00:28:07.171
And then you come, you mentioned earlier in our opening about our forefathers.

489
00:28:07.631 --> 00:28:08.411
I'm a big fan.

490
00:28:08.552 --> 00:28:11.213
I read everything that Sam Adams has ever put out.

491
00:28:12.013 --> 00:28:19.297
And I wish Americans would read about Sam Adams because Sam Adams is the one who over and over again mentions the fact,

492
00:28:19.697 --> 00:28:22.118
that we are going through our Red Sea experience.

493
00:28:22.619 --> 00:28:26.681
He said to the Second Continental Congress, he said, wait a minute.

494
00:28:28.421 --> 00:28:30.282
God says he's no respecter of persons.

495
00:28:30.983 --> 00:28:32.363
He did this for Israel.

496
00:28:33.844 --> 00:28:35.565
He delivered them from the yoke of Pharaoh.

497
00:28:37.306 --> 00:28:39.107
King George III is our Pharaoh.

498
00:28:40.413 --> 00:28:41.473
He's going to deliver us.

499
00:28:41.533 --> 00:28:42.914
And he gave this tremendous speech.

500
00:28:42.954 --> 00:28:51.597
I forget the date of it, but it was impromptu referencing so many biblical works of God, which inspired the Continental Congress.

501
00:28:52.077 --> 00:28:53.598
And they wound up getting the job done.

502
00:28:53.658 --> 00:28:59.780
The point is, our source is founded upon the great quotes of John Locke, who wound up quoting scripture.

503
00:28:59.800 --> 00:29:05.662
Thomas Jefferson, a lot of people what Jefferson wrote in the Declaration of Independence was lifted from John Locke.

504
00:29:05.722 --> 00:29:07.543
Did you know that I wrote my doctorate on John Locke?

505
00:29:07.943 --> 00:29:08.564
I didn't know that.

506
00:29:08.584 --> 00:29:09.044
You didn't know that?

507
00:29:09.064 --> 00:29:09.664
Gosh, I wish I could do that.

508
00:29:09.684 --> 00:29:10.605
Here's a little bit of prophecy.

509
00:29:10.625 --> 00:29:11.065
Tell me.

510
00:29:11.425 --> 00:29:11.726
Tell me.

511
00:29:11.746 --> 00:29:13.427
Well, you can get it.

512
00:29:13.447 --> 00:29:15.468
It was printed by Cambridge University Press.

513
00:29:15.488 --> 00:29:17.269
You can get it on Amazon.

514
00:29:17.309 --> 00:29:18.350
You got to take out a mortgage.

515
00:29:18.370 --> 00:29:19.010
We have to get that.

516
00:29:19.030 --> 00:29:21.452
You got to take out a mortgage because it sells for like $130.

517
00:29:21.472 --> 00:29:26.975
But yeah, I wrote a book on John Locke and his use of the Hebrew Bible.

518
00:29:28.822 --> 00:29:44.470
But yeah, because in the 17th century, what I was fascinated by was as the divine rights of kings was losing its luster, where did these philosophers look for guidance?

519
00:29:44.570 --> 00:29:50.272
I said, hey, there is a book that tells us about what God would choose as governance.

520
00:29:51.133 --> 00:29:53.394
And this is a little known fact, by the way, but...

521
00:29:54.862 --> 00:30:14.716
The idea of Washington not being one of the states, that comes from Hugo Grotius, who is the founder of international law, who is a Dutch legal scholar and philosopher, who said that the Netherlands should—the capital should—the capital should—the

522
00:30:15.790 --> 00:30:17.892
should not be part of any one of the 12 states.

523
00:30:18.112 --> 00:30:20.213
12 states, like the 12 tribes?

524
00:30:20.734 --> 00:30:21.034
Why?

525
00:30:21.694 --> 00:30:25.097
Because Jerusalem was not divided among the tribes.

526
00:30:25.357 --> 00:30:29.600
So all the tribes could feel, it sat in between Benjamin and Judah.

527
00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:30.321
Centrality.

528
00:30:30.541 --> 00:30:32.923
But everybody should feel that they belong to the capital.

529
00:30:33.704 --> 00:30:35.425
So that's why you have D.C.

530
00:30:35.725 --> 00:30:37.967
It's not Maryland or Virginia.

531
00:30:37.987 --> 00:30:38.327
That's right.

532
00:30:39.048 --> 00:30:42.430
That was patterned after Grotius, who patterned after the Hebrew Bible.

533
00:30:42.670 --> 00:30:43.151
I love this.

534
00:30:44.211 --> 00:30:44.732
Absolutely epic.

535
00:30:44.772 --> 00:30:44.892
Yeah.

536
00:30:46.192 --> 00:30:55.217
So again, I think, again, all the more, I do believe the founding of America for many other reasons, because you gotta think about it, is Egypt in the Bible?

537
00:30:55.357 --> 00:30:58.279
Of course, Israel of course, the most mentioned nation in the Bible.

538
00:30:58.459 --> 00:31:02.381
Babylon, Medo-Persian Empire, you go on, there's other countries.

539
00:31:02.621 --> 00:31:04.102
Libya's mentioned in Ezekiel.

540
00:31:04.302 --> 00:31:04.823
Louv, yeah.

541
00:31:05.043 --> 00:31:05.943
On and on you could go.

542
00:31:06.444 --> 00:31:09.045
You cannot open the Bible and turn to the United States.

543
00:31:09.405 --> 00:31:10.226
You don't see it in there.

544
00:31:10.806 --> 00:31:22.237
But how could, to prove my point, how could you see the most free nation that's ever been, religious freedoms, military power, finance and wealth,

545
00:31:23.393 --> 00:31:26.135
I mean, on and on it goes.

546
00:31:26.515 --> 00:31:30.817
And what was Martin Luther King quoting when he was fighting for black rights in this country?

547
00:31:31.017 --> 00:31:31.217
Yes.

548
00:31:31.338 --> 00:31:31.538
Right?

549
00:31:31.558 --> 00:31:32.578
He saw the promised land.

550
00:31:32.738 --> 00:31:32.958
Yes.

551
00:31:33.259 --> 00:31:33.419
Right?

552
00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:33.979
Yes.

553
00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:35.160
One of the most famous speeches.

554
00:31:35.180 --> 00:31:39.862
The promised land, which to me, harkened back to John Winthrop's A City on a Hill.

555
00:31:39.902 --> 00:31:40.283
A City on a Hill.

556
00:31:40.363 --> 00:31:40.963
All of that.

557
00:31:41.523 --> 00:31:48.667
You've got this remarkable nation, yet I can't find it mentioned in the Bible, but therein might be our saving grace as well.

558
00:31:49.528 --> 00:31:51.449
I think that America is a miracle.

559
00:31:52.788 --> 00:32:01.852
that again, in God's infinite sovereign wisdom, used it and uses it for a lot of reasons, but the main thing was to be that cradle for the rebirth of the nation Israel.

560
00:32:03.653 --> 00:32:09.275
That said, I'm concerned about where we're going in the American pulpit.

561
00:32:09.735 --> 00:32:16.558
I'm not a real fan of much of America's pulpits because they're not teaching about God's promises to Israel.

562
00:32:17.339 --> 00:32:17.739
They're not...

563
00:32:18.840 --> 00:32:19.060
Mr.

564
00:32:19.100 --> 00:32:33.287
Ambassador, the Bible tells us in the New Testament, from a Jew, mind you, from Saul of Tarsus, known as the Apostle Paul, that you Gentiles should love the God of Israel, Romans chapter 9, 10, and 11.

565
00:32:35.055 --> 00:32:43.457
that you guys should love the God of Israel so that the Jews who don't know God would be provoked to jealousy to know their own God from you.

566
00:32:43.837 --> 00:32:45.797
He told the Gentiles that.

567
00:32:46.257 --> 00:32:47.737
I believe that with all of my heart.

568
00:32:47.757 --> 00:32:48.578
We have a lot to learn.

569
00:32:48.898 --> 00:32:50.098
We have a lot to learn.

570
00:32:50.738 --> 00:32:51.678
What I'm saying is this.

571
00:32:52.138 --> 00:33:00.200
Why are not these Gentile churches reading the Bible and these pastors teaching their people the full counsel of God

572
00:33:01.060 --> 00:33:07.230
If they did, it would shut down the progressive lunacy of replacement theology.

573
00:33:07.450 --> 00:33:08.532
Oh, the church is Israel.

574
00:33:08.852 --> 00:33:10.575
The Christian's the new Jew.

575
00:33:11.364 --> 00:33:11.804
Really?

576
00:33:12.625 --> 00:33:16.769
That is, in my opinion, it's a demonic doctrine.

577
00:33:16.889 --> 00:33:18.590
It's satanic.

578
00:33:18.910 --> 00:33:22.153
It allows for then anti-Semitism.

579
00:33:22.794 --> 00:33:27.177
It allows for people to not recognize the borders of Israel, the government of Israel.

580
00:33:27.798 --> 00:33:36.085
And all of this just happens to just dovetail beautifully into the narrative, or at least they use it, the Islamic argument.

581
00:33:37.284 --> 00:33:39.025
which is what we're dealing with in our world today.

582
00:33:39.045 --> 00:33:40.225
I'd love for you to talk on this.

583
00:33:42.365 --> 00:33:48.847
You know, I know, even though we've never talked together, I've seen, I've been to Israel 23 times.

584
00:33:49.547 --> 00:33:52.448
I have seen areas that everything was fine.

585
00:33:53.128 --> 00:33:59.610
And either Abbas or UN or PLO or the PA said, Israel, get out.

586
00:34:00.170 --> 00:34:01.591
And when Israel got out,

587
00:34:02.691 --> 00:34:04.312
They didn't maintain their crops.

588
00:34:04.472 --> 00:34:06.194
They didn't maintain their irrigation.

589
00:34:06.214 --> 00:34:07.575
They completely fell apart.

590
00:34:07.615 --> 00:34:08.655
And who came to their aid?

591
00:34:08.715 --> 00:34:09.055
Gaza.

592
00:34:09.496 --> 00:34:09.716
Yeah.

593
00:34:09.996 --> 00:34:10.777
Who came to their aid?

594
00:34:10.817 --> 00:34:11.597
People don't even know this.

595
00:34:11.997 --> 00:34:12.978
Israel came to their aid.

596
00:34:13.058 --> 00:34:13.959
I saw it with my own eyes.

597
00:34:14.279 --> 00:34:15.140
Nobody believes this.

598
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:16.821
Can you speak on this?

599
00:34:16.841 --> 00:34:21.984
Well, you know, I don't want to presume to be an expert on Christian theology.

600
00:34:24.446 --> 00:34:25.947
But I will say this.

601
00:34:27.628 --> 00:34:30.130
I cannot believe in a God that...

602
00:34:31.998 --> 00:34:35.028
would turn his back on me because I can't,

603
00:34:35.980 --> 00:34:44.022
well, I can't believe in a God that would turn his back on you because I don't wanna believe in a God that turns his back on me or you or, you know, if he turns his back on the Jewish people.

604
00:34:44.422 --> 00:34:45.103
Could turn his back.

605
00:34:45.143 --> 00:34:53.325
I mean, if he negates the covenant that he has with the Jewish people, why can't tomorrow he negate the covenant he has with the Christian people?

606
00:34:53.785 --> 00:34:57.566
So I think we kind of should leave that discussion aside.

607
00:34:57.866 --> 00:35:02.928
The fact, and you know what, maybe, maybe, that had a voice up until

608
00:35:03.506 --> 00:35:04.866
May 14th, 1948.

609
00:35:05.507 --> 00:35:11.368
You know, it was hard to say that the Jews still had a place in God's world in Auschwitz.

610
00:35:12.009 --> 00:35:14.849
You know, it was easy to say, you know, where is God?

611
00:35:15.330 --> 00:35:16.670
The Nazis can get away with this.

612
00:35:17.350 --> 00:35:19.431
You've got that kind of brutality.

613
00:35:21.091 --> 00:35:25.653
You know, I could see somebody hard pressed to say the Jews are still at the apple of God's eye.

614
00:35:26.913 --> 00:35:32.575
But after 1948 and the history of Israel, I think you gotta stop and say, something's going on here.

615
00:35:33.367 --> 00:35:34.248
Something's going on here.

616
00:35:34.448 --> 00:35:37.510
We talked about the dry bones before, we talked about the prophecies of Isaiah.

617
00:35:38.031 --> 00:35:39.872
Something's going on here.

618
00:35:40.133 --> 00:35:58.368
And if you go, you talk about America creating a cradle of liberty for the entire world, look at that one area of the world where democracy, where fairness, where equality, hasn't made a dent other than Israel.

619
00:35:58.868 --> 00:36:01.110
You go look in the Middle East and just hasn't made a dent

620
00:36:02.112 --> 00:36:10.197
And in the Abraham Accords, you start seeing that accommodationist element within Islam willing to say, we can go in that direction too.

621
00:36:10.277 --> 00:36:12.998
Gradually, slowly, but we can go in that direction too.

622
00:36:13.238 --> 00:36:14.679
That's a civilizational change.

623
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:19.022
You know, Pastor, I wear a kippah, right?

624
00:36:20.182 --> 00:36:24.805
I can walk down the street of Abu Dhabi and feel comfortable.

625
00:36:24.905 --> 00:36:25.065
Mm-hmm.

626
00:36:25.808 --> 00:36:27.109
I can't do that today in Paris.

627
00:36:27.970 --> 00:36:28.450
That's true.

628
00:36:28.810 --> 00:36:29.191
Okay.

629
00:36:29.291 --> 00:36:30.071
You'd be hard pressed.

630
00:36:30.111 --> 00:36:31.412
I can't do that today in London.

631
00:36:32.093 --> 00:36:33.854
That's a civilizational change.

632
00:36:33.894 --> 00:36:34.314
That's right.

633
00:36:34.835 --> 00:36:40.099
And the potential here for real enlightenment in the Middle East is there.

634
00:36:40.539 --> 00:36:43.521
And you see Saudi Arabia kind of in this internal tug of war.

635
00:36:43.561 --> 00:36:48.565
You know, one day they're gonna make peace with us, the next day they're drawn back and so on.

636
00:36:49.746 --> 00:36:54.450
But it's gonna come if we are successful, and I think we will be successful ultimately.

637
00:36:55.380 --> 00:37:07.311
in removing this nemesis from the neck of the world, this Iranian revolution, which the 1979 Khomeini revolution in Iran is as big an issue as all the revolutions in history.

638
00:37:07.331 --> 00:37:08.252
People don't appreciate this.

639
00:37:08.872 --> 00:37:15.118
This was an attempt to move Islam back into the Middle Ages and take Islam back into a,

640
00:37:15.941 --> 00:37:30.287
confrontation with the West, with Judeo-Christian civilization, and what we're fighting now against Iran is not just to open up the Straits of Hormuz, and not just to prevent them from having nuclear weapons, but fighting against the exportation of evil which will ultimately encompass the world.

641
00:37:30.527 --> 00:37:33.048
We fought an ideology against the Soviet Union.

642
00:37:33.728 --> 00:37:37.170
It was an ideology we fought that was going to devour the entire world.

643
00:37:37.470 --> 00:37:40.131
Well, their intention is to do the same, make no mistake about it.

644
00:37:40.751 --> 00:37:41.952
And if you don't stop it there,

645
00:37:43.113 --> 00:37:46.135
It's going to come here, not only in the form of Sharia law in your back door.

646
00:37:46.776 --> 00:37:47.556
It's going to be much worse.

647
00:37:47.596 --> 00:37:50.818
The whole story of Genesis, this is how the Bible opens.

648
00:37:51.419 --> 00:37:53.040
The Bible opens with discernment.

649
00:37:53.240 --> 00:37:53.400
Yeah.

650
00:37:53.580 --> 00:37:57.163
God separates the waters above from the waters below.

651
00:37:57.483 --> 00:37:59.604
He separates the dry land from the wetland.

652
00:37:59.644 --> 00:38:03.127
He separates the light from darkness.

653
00:38:03.167 --> 00:38:06.189
He separates plant life from animal life, animal life from man.

654
00:38:06.209 --> 00:38:06.729
Day from day.

655
00:38:06.849 --> 00:38:08.470
Day from day, right?

656
00:38:08.611 --> 00:38:09.471
Keep the Sabbath day.

657
00:38:10.132 --> 00:38:11.653
And he separates one tree from...

658
00:38:12.353 --> 00:38:13.914
from all the other trees.

659
00:38:14.395 --> 00:38:15.195
And what happens?

660
00:38:15.736 --> 00:38:17.717
Man loses discernment.

661
00:38:17.918 --> 00:38:18.378
That's right.

662
00:38:18.418 --> 00:38:22.061
When man loses the ability to discern, the world comes to end.

663
00:38:22.241 --> 00:38:23.342
Comes disaster.

664
00:38:23.602 --> 00:38:23.922
Disaster.

665
00:38:23.962 --> 00:38:24.583
Exactly right.

666
00:38:24.783 --> 00:38:27.005
And we've lost so much of the West.

667
00:38:27.505 --> 00:38:29.227
has lost the ability for discernment.

668
00:38:29.247 --> 00:38:31.389
They abandoned Genesis, there's no more discernment.

669
00:38:31.630 --> 00:38:36.175
And one of the things I have to do as ambassador is remind everybody that there is something that's true.

670
00:38:36.755 --> 00:38:37.476
There is a truth.

671
00:38:38.097 --> 00:38:40.119
Israel was attacked on October 7th.

672
00:38:40.660 --> 00:38:43.463
After it left Gaza, because it was pressured,

673
00:38:43.963 --> 00:38:52.029
We gave up all of those agricultural centers that were developing flowers for Europe and food for Africa.

674
00:38:52.329 --> 00:38:53.350
We turned it all over.

675
00:38:53.510 --> 00:38:55.091
We gave it to the Palestinian Authority.

676
00:38:55.111 --> 00:38:58.454
Within a year, the Palestinian Authority was annihilated.

677
00:38:58.554 --> 00:39:00.715
Hamas took over, which we said was going to happen.

678
00:39:01.416 --> 00:39:02.697
And they built up.

679
00:39:03.117 --> 00:39:03.858
Do you know how many...

680
00:39:04.618 --> 00:39:06.500
tunnels of terror that were in Gaza?

681
00:39:06.580 --> 00:39:08.521
I've lost count of how many kilometers?

682
00:39:08.541 --> 00:39:10.182
250, 300 something nuts?

683
00:39:10.202 --> 00:39:10.723
Well, I'll tell you.

684
00:39:10.863 --> 00:39:11.503
No, it's much more.

685
00:39:12.244 --> 00:39:17.107
Gaza, and this is really important for your viewers to understand because they've heard so much about Gaza.

686
00:39:18.709 --> 00:39:22.011
Gaza is 24 miles long and 8 miles wide.

687
00:39:22.872 --> 00:39:27.955
And underneath 24 miles long and 8 miles wide is 350 miles of terror tunnel.

688
00:39:30.806 --> 00:39:47.890
They took all the money they received from Qatar and from other places around the world, billions of dollars, and built these terror tunnels from which, in which they stored missiles, arms, explosions, drones, and from which

689
00:39:49.085 --> 00:39:54.808
They entered Israel and just slaughtered anybody in their wake, babies, women.

690
00:39:54.888 --> 00:39:56.568
They raped women as they were killing them.

691
00:39:57.109 --> 00:39:59.310
Okay, they cut off people's heads.

692
00:39:59.450 --> 00:40:01.651
I saw the 47 minute video.

693
00:40:01.891 --> 00:40:09.374
And I just, you know, when some senators on the Hill asked me, you know, why we're being so aggressive, why we're, so what would you do?

694
00:40:10.215 --> 00:40:11.155
Tell me what you would do.

695
00:40:11.255 --> 00:40:12.916
That's a scary question to ask them.

696
00:40:12.976 --> 00:40:14.236
I'm afraid what they might say.

697
00:40:14.256 --> 00:40:14.997
Do you know that our,

698
00:40:15.744 --> 00:40:30.870
Well, they never answered because you know that in fact, when you actually look at the facts, not feelings, but facts, we had the lowest combatant to non-combatant death ratio in modern urban warfare.

699
00:40:30.910 --> 00:40:31.650
I don't doubt that.

700
00:40:31.710 --> 00:40:34.171
Lower than Fallujah, lower than Mosul.

701
00:40:34.931 --> 00:40:41.254
And when you have real experts that went through, like John Spencer, who's a lecturer at the US,

702
00:40:42.628 --> 00:40:43.769
the academy at West Point.

703
00:40:44.850 --> 00:40:47.992
He's the number one expert in the world on urban warfare.

704
00:40:48.352 --> 00:40:52.955
When he went through, he said, there's never been a war fought with greater sense of morality than this.

705
00:40:53.535 --> 00:40:55.536
We fought with our hands tied behind our backs.

706
00:40:55.677 --> 00:41:00.560
And quite frankly, Pastor, my son, my oldest son, would be alive today.

707
00:41:00.660 --> 00:41:02.561
I just read this today.

708
00:41:02.921 --> 00:41:06.223
If we did what we're being accused of doing, he'd be alive.

709
00:41:06.704 --> 00:41:08.985
Because we didn't strathbomb population centers.

710
00:41:09.325 --> 00:41:09.806
That's right.

711
00:41:09.846 --> 00:41:10.086
Right?

712
00:41:10.806 --> 00:41:11.307
We sent...

713
00:41:12.065 --> 00:41:29.269
Infantry and he was special ops and he led the forces into Gaza from the first day fought for 15 days on the 15th day of the war It was just before the Sabbath was the Sabbath where we read in synagogue the portion of Abraham Purchasing the cave of the Machpelah to bury Sarah.

714
00:41:29.549 --> 00:41:37.871
Well, he was looking for a tunnel He was looking for his cave right as a child of Abraham and it was This cave was laden with explosives.

715
00:41:37.991 --> 00:41:38.831
It was booby-trapped and

716
00:41:39.525 --> 00:41:40.106
And he found it.

717
00:41:40.486 --> 00:41:42.327
It was 321 in the afternoon Friday.

718
00:41:43.729 --> 00:41:44.709
And he wired the troops.

719
00:41:44.789 --> 00:41:46.251
He wired back to the command center.

720
00:41:46.451 --> 00:41:48.453
I found the tunnel and he said, Shabbat Shalom.

721
00:41:49.333 --> 00:41:50.314
Have a peaceful Sabbath.

722
00:41:51.075 --> 00:42:03.185
And as soon as he said Shalom, Hamas set off a massive explosion that brought the house down on top of him and another three of his commandos.

723
00:42:03.665 --> 00:42:07.769
On the other side of the wall, there were another five of his commandos that lost their legs.

724
00:42:09.626 --> 00:42:16.581
And when people tell me, you know, we overreacted, right?

725
00:42:17.217 --> 00:42:20.658
We didn't put the civilians in front of these terrorists.

726
00:42:20.698 --> 00:42:21.339
They put them there.

727
00:42:21.359 --> 00:42:22.699
Nor did you put the weapons in the tunnels.

728
00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:27.581
And we didn't put the weapons in the tunnels, and we didn't dig those tunnels, and we can't live with jihadis on our border.

729
00:42:28.001 --> 00:42:28.962
And let me tell you something.

730
00:42:29.162 --> 00:42:35.985
If there was an issue like that in any other country in the world, there would be nothing left on the other side of the tent.

731
00:42:36.025 --> 00:42:38.026
Just imagine that happening in Laredo, Texas.

732
00:42:38.666 --> 00:42:40.527
What would be left of the other side of Mexico?

733
00:42:41.887 --> 00:42:47.929
They would have no compunctions whatsoever of just eliminating everything and setting a security zone that's hundreds of miles deep.

734
00:42:47.949 --> 00:42:48.269
Of course.

735
00:42:48.329 --> 00:42:51.230
What we have now in Gaza is a security zone.

736
00:42:52.530 --> 00:42:54.030
We didn't remove anybody from Gaza.

737
00:42:54.050 --> 00:42:56.531
They could, if Egypt would let them leave.

738
00:42:57.351 --> 00:42:58.392
Egypt is keeping them there.

739
00:42:58.432 --> 00:42:59.572
They refuse to open the gates.

740
00:42:59.712 --> 00:43:02.433
Look at Egypt's wall up against the Palestinians.

741
00:43:02.473 --> 00:43:03.273
Nobody talks about that.

742
00:43:03.293 --> 00:43:03.893
Nobody talks about that.

743
00:43:03.933 --> 00:43:08.154
We're just, as a matter of fact, I was on a conference call yesterday with four senators.

744
00:43:09.315 --> 00:43:10.575
And I told them, I said, do you know how many...

745
00:43:11.835 --> 00:43:16.961
excuse me, Gazans have left over the past three years since October 7th through Israel?

746
00:43:17.162 --> 00:43:18.443
50,000.

747
00:43:18.523 --> 00:43:22.088
11,000 for medical purposes and another 40,000 who have visas.

748
00:43:22.929 --> 00:43:23.870
Anybody gives them a visa?

749
00:43:23.890 --> 00:43:27.595
You're so concerned about the Arabs of Gaza?

750
00:43:27.615 --> 00:43:27.675
No.

751
00:43:28.291 --> 00:43:28.911
Give them a visa.

752
00:43:29.352 --> 00:43:30.513
Let them go to England.

753
00:43:30.773 --> 00:43:38.879
All these guys who represent the cause of the Palestinian people, they don't give a damn about the Palestinian people because if they did, they'd give them visas.

754
00:43:39.099 --> 00:43:54.810
One of the joys of us taking people to Israel, it's many, but one of them is to go to various places from anywhere, from any one of the villages to Mamila, and go to Aroma, my favorite place,

755
00:43:55.457 --> 00:43:56.057
What do you see?

756
00:43:56.357 --> 00:43:58.018
You see Jews.

757
00:43:58.798 --> 00:44:00.118
You see, I guess, non-Jews.

758
00:44:01.179 --> 00:44:02.799
You see Muslims, everybody.

759
00:44:03.339 --> 00:44:04.179
People need to know this.

760
00:44:04.219 --> 00:44:19.724
They need to see, in fact, when we take people, their minds are changed because they're sitting down and they see all of this coexistence happening, and it blows their mind because CNN painted a completely different picture.

761
00:44:20.664 --> 00:44:23.825
And I don't know the numbers you might, but,

762
00:44:25.204 --> 00:44:38.471
There's a great PragerU five-minute video that was put out years ago about the Israel test by George Gilder.

763
00:44:38.691 --> 00:44:40.252
Great book.

764
00:44:40.412 --> 00:44:40.953
Really good book.

765
00:44:40.973 --> 00:44:42.774
He talks about how...

766
00:44:43.998 --> 00:44:50.399
Israel's got this much water, but over the years, you said it, they've increased the water, not lessened it.

767
00:44:51.319 --> 00:44:55.480
While all the while their population grew so much.

768
00:44:55.820 --> 00:45:01.902
And that population is this percent Jewish, this percent Arab or this percent, you name it.

769
00:45:02.562 --> 00:45:05.782
And people, it's absolutely amazing, which is why it's called the Israel test.

770
00:45:06.362 --> 00:45:07.983
It's so amazing to see, uh,

771
00:45:09.443 --> 00:45:11.185
that I too have been to Paris.

772
00:45:11.365 --> 00:45:21.374
I too recently in England and there's areas where Londoners told us, yeah, you don't want to go down there.

773
00:45:21.674 --> 00:45:28.760
You're going to want to go around the city to go to that part because it's Friday afternoon.

774
00:45:28.820 --> 00:45:29.841
It wouldn't be good for you.

775
00:45:30.101 --> 00:45:31.983
It's the call to prayer.

776
00:45:32.483 --> 00:45:33.884
I knew exactly what they were talking about.

777
00:45:34.285 --> 00:45:35.286
That's a pretty sad thing.

778
00:45:35.986 --> 00:45:36.607
But again,

779
00:45:37.891 --> 00:45:45.117
I might be too harsh, but we saw the decline of Christianity in Europe a long time ago.

780
00:45:46.739 --> 00:45:50.141
And radical Islam will fill a void.

781
00:45:51.422 --> 00:45:52.924
We're seeing that void filled in Europe.

782
00:45:54.065 --> 00:46:05.915
In the United States, I believe the answer is always the word of God, as our founders believe that, for America, and this is for Israel too, our relationship to Israel,

783
00:46:07.071 --> 00:46:12.457
is America, at least its houses of worship, need to return back to the Word of God.

784
00:46:14.459 --> 00:46:16.080
People need to return to the houses of worship.

785
00:46:16.761 --> 00:46:17.041
Yeah.

786
00:46:17.121 --> 00:46:23.969
People don't understand when I tell them as an Orthodox Jew, when I go to speak in a church Sunday morning...

787
00:46:24.595 --> 00:46:27.036
And I drive up to the parking lot and it's a beautiful day.

788
00:46:27.577 --> 00:46:30.338
And the parking lot is filled capacity.

789
00:46:30.598 --> 00:46:30.838
Correct.

790
00:46:30.858 --> 00:46:32.399
These people aren't going out fishing.

791
00:46:32.659 --> 00:46:32.759
No.

792
00:46:32.779 --> 00:46:34.480
They aren't going out golfing, surfing.

793
00:46:34.900 --> 00:46:41.144
They're coming to church on Sunday morning with their families to talk to God to.

794
00:46:42.408 --> 00:46:50.899
to learn and to receive his blessings and to beseech him for their needs and for the needs of their family.

795
00:46:50.919 --> 00:46:52.861
And these are their communities and these are their country.

796
00:46:53.602 --> 00:46:55.565
This is the hope for the future.

797
00:46:55.745 --> 00:46:56.166
That's right.

798
00:46:56.526 --> 00:46:59.410
And I know that it's the hope for Israel, too.

799
00:47:01.200 --> 00:47:07.401
I think that there's an awful lot that we need to compare notes about, both our communities in dignity.

800
00:47:07.981 --> 00:47:09.382
Our history is kind of rough.

801
00:47:09.422 --> 00:47:12.162
We went through these Middle Ages, and there was always these theological debates.

802
00:47:12.242 --> 00:47:15.803
A lot of those people said they were Christians and did terrible things.

803
00:47:16.083 --> 00:47:17.543
But we're beyond that.

804
00:47:17.643 --> 00:47:21.604
We're in a different age today, particularly because the state of Israel came into existence.

805
00:47:21.704 --> 00:47:26.485
So I think it's sending a message to our Christian brothers and sisters.

806
00:47:26.525 --> 00:47:29.446
And I just want to conclude by saying thank you.

807
00:47:29.546 --> 00:47:30.706
Everywhere I go, I say thank you.

808
00:47:31.153 --> 00:47:32.775
To you, thank you to your congregants.

809
00:47:33.175 --> 00:47:36.979
Thank you to the United States of America for being a beacon of light in this world.

810
00:47:37.780 --> 00:47:43.663
And I hope that we'll continue to do great things together for the sake of humanity, because that's what God expects of us.

811
00:47:44.244 --> 00:47:49.567
He gave us that charge to be partners in creating the proper destiny for humankind.

812
00:47:49.887 --> 00:47:52.708
And I hope we'll live up to the challenge.

813
00:47:53.109 --> 00:47:53.669
Yeah, amen.

814
00:47:53.709 --> 00:48:04.215
And so as we wrap this up, as I said earlier, people, pastors will ask, our relationship with the Jewish people, the Jewish states and all,

815
00:48:05.088 --> 00:48:07.771
And so I'll always answer and go to scripture.

816
00:48:07.831 --> 00:48:17.422
And there's something that for me in my own private life where, and I can't explain it, but I had no religious upbringing.

817
00:48:19.544 --> 00:48:21.686
I'm not saying that my home was atheistic.

818
00:48:21.726 --> 00:48:22.007
Right.

819
00:48:23.600 --> 00:48:24.701
It was a moral home.

820
00:48:25.081 --> 00:48:28.543
I don't know what guidelines my dad and mom lived off of.

821
00:48:28.583 --> 00:48:31.785
My mom had some sort of understanding of Catholicism.

822
00:48:31.905 --> 00:48:38.209
She was orphaned at a very young age in Hawaii, and she was raised in an orphanage, Catholic orphanage in Hawaii.

823
00:48:38.229 --> 00:48:42.752
So she had a very odd view of God, but she didn't pass it on to us.

824
00:48:43.492 --> 00:48:51.237
And then my dad, being a farm boy from South Dakota and then the U.S. Marines, he just learned if you want something done, you've got to do it yourself.

825
00:48:51.937 --> 00:48:52.918
No one's going to hand you anything.

826
00:48:54.643 --> 00:49:04.886
So when I was 19 years old, I walked into what was very unfamiliar looking, very odd looking, because you know, my picture of a church was this beautiful Gothic type building with stained glass.

827
00:49:05.206 --> 00:49:07.266
This was more reminiscent of a warehouse.

828
00:49:08.427 --> 00:49:19.690
I saw all these people my age going into this building and I went in there and 2,000 teenagers sitting there and this guy comes out and he starts teaching the Bible.

829
00:49:20.770 --> 00:49:23.851
I'd never seen a Bible, never even heard from the Bible.

830
00:49:25.407 --> 00:49:35.453
But fast forward, I knew that night that I was responsible for my own evil conduct in my own life.

831
00:49:37.254 --> 00:49:41.797
Taking advantage of people for my own pleasures, seeking my own comfort, not yours.

832
00:49:43.218 --> 00:49:48.381
And I became keenly aware of my own internal darkness that I needed.

833
00:49:48.401 --> 00:49:49.322
There was no light.

834
00:49:50.722 --> 00:49:53.624
And there was some sort of experience where I knew I was in trouble.

835
00:49:53.644 --> 00:49:54.605
But I knew I was in trouble.

836
00:49:55.927 --> 00:50:03.029
But like Isaiah said, call upon the Lord and you shall be saved.

837
00:50:03.049 --> 00:50:07.109
This is a word that was given to Israel, but that happened to me.

838
00:50:08.530 --> 00:50:14.251
And I didn't understand anything about Jerusalem, about Israel, about 48, about, I didn't know.

839
00:50:14.531 --> 00:50:15.991
I didn't even know I was a Gentile like that.

840
00:50:16.191 --> 00:50:16.992
I didn't know that stuff.

841
00:50:18.152 --> 00:50:19.272
Something happened on the inside.

842
00:50:19.692 --> 00:50:20.812
But I got to tell you, this is the point.

843
00:50:22.853 --> 00:50:22.973
That

844
00:50:24.732 --> 00:50:26.413
And I don't know what it's called.

845
00:50:27.593 --> 00:50:35.757
But within that week, I had gone to a Christian, they used to have Christian jewelry stores in those days.

846
00:50:36.638 --> 00:50:37.658
Now it's all online stuff.

847
00:50:37.678 --> 00:50:42.740
And you could go and they sold Bibles and little trinkets and necklaces and crosses.

848
00:50:43.281 --> 00:50:48.703
And I saw this interesting concoction of jewelry.

849
00:50:50.224 --> 00:50:52.445
And it was the Star of David.

850
00:50:53.653 --> 00:50:57.575
And out of the Star of David, beneath it was the ixtus, the fish.

851
00:50:57.615 --> 00:50:59.656
You've seen the, they call it the Christian fish.

852
00:51:00.656 --> 00:51:02.877
It's the ixtus, and then below that was the cross.

853
00:51:04.118 --> 00:51:07.039
And I don't know about, I didn't know much about those other two things.

854
00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:08.460
The cross, I've heard about that.

855
00:51:08.640 --> 00:51:09.981
What is this funny little loop?

856
00:51:10.001 --> 00:51:11.001
It turns out to be a fish.

857
00:51:12.322 --> 00:51:15.163
What got my attention was, that's the Star of David.

858
00:51:16.744 --> 00:51:20.926
And what happened to me was, from that moment, it's unexplainable, and it's stuck with me for 50 years.

859
00:51:21.820 --> 00:51:24.521
I began to, first thing I knew, something was different.

860
00:51:25.341 --> 00:51:28.322
I went home and I looked and I found Israel on a globe.

861
00:51:31.383 --> 00:51:43.167
And from that moment on, there was some bizarre passion and affinity to the nation of Israel, the Jewish people, though I had never met a Jew.

862
00:51:44.647 --> 00:51:47.088
And there was this unexplainable love.

863
00:51:48.809 --> 00:51:48.929
And

864
00:51:50.325 --> 00:51:53.889
As I read, I came to this thing that Dennis Prager, I hope he watches this.

865
00:51:55.351 --> 00:51:59.356
Dennis asked me, why are you a lover of Israel like this?

866
00:52:00.197 --> 00:52:04.923
And I said, well, first of all, you guys gave us the scriptures and so much more.

867
00:52:06.022 --> 00:52:07.102
And I could go on and on.

868
00:52:07.663 --> 00:52:10.924
How is it that you guys are more Nobel Prize winners than anybody else?

869
00:52:10.984 --> 00:52:11.864
I could go on and on.

870
00:52:12.425 --> 00:52:14.566
How you guys took a desert, turned it into a forest.

871
00:52:14.646 --> 00:52:15.406
I could go on and on.

872
00:52:15.446 --> 00:52:21.829
But I said, the absolute, and I went on, I said, the absolute sealing the deal is this.

873
00:52:21.949 --> 00:52:26.531
And I said, Dennis, can you look this up in your Hebrew Bible?

874
00:52:28.031 --> 00:52:28.732
And he said, yeah, yeah.

875
00:52:28.752 --> 00:52:32.173
He pulled out his phone and he looked up and he went to, it's Proverbs 30.

876
00:52:32.353 --> 00:52:34.214
Solomon wrote this, Proverbs 30, verse 4.

877
00:52:35.608 --> 00:52:40.371
And it says, who has ascended into heaven or who has descended?

878
00:52:41.711 --> 00:52:44.753
Who has hollowed out the seas in the palm of his hand?

879
00:52:45.274 --> 00:52:48.155
And who holds the wind in the fold of his robe?

880
00:52:49.456 --> 00:52:50.336
What is my name?

881
00:52:51.517 --> 00:52:54.439
And what is the name of my son if you know him?

882
00:52:55.419 --> 00:52:56.880
That's Proverbs 30 verse 4.

883
00:52:58.141 --> 00:52:59.902
And from that moment on, I knew that

884
00:53:01.613 --> 00:53:12.595
the Jewish people, the nation of Israel, the apple of God's eye, the promised land, the chosen people had given the world the greatest gift that could ever be given.

885
00:53:12.795 --> 00:53:26.618
And that is salvation through a Jew born in the hill country of Nazareth or Bethlehem by two young people,

886
00:53:27.772 --> 00:53:34.957
whose genealogy you can trace in the scriptures, and something about my life became, I don't know what, Jewish?

887
00:53:35.258 --> 00:53:37.479
Something about, I don't know.

888
00:53:38.460 --> 00:53:44.965
Today, I would say to the Jewish individual, don't leave your Judaism.

889
00:53:45.945 --> 00:53:50.068
Come home to all of what the prophets had foretold.

890
00:53:51.049 --> 00:53:56.253
And for me, there's an affinity that...

891
00:53:57.782 --> 00:53:59.083
is stronger.

892
00:53:59.103 --> 00:54:01.846
This is almost terrible for people to hear.

893
00:54:02.286 --> 00:54:03.407
I'm an American through and through.

894
00:54:03.427 --> 00:54:04.308
I'll die for this country.

895
00:54:04.328 --> 00:54:05.088
I love my nation.

896
00:54:06.850 --> 00:54:11.414
But according to the Bible, Israel will exist forever.

897
00:54:12.354 --> 00:54:13.836
And I'm going to go with the winning team.

898
00:54:14.796 --> 00:54:16.598
And I am just honored to be with you today.

899
00:54:16.618 --> 00:54:18.119
I thank you that you gave us audience.

900
00:54:18.920 --> 00:54:20.221
I'm so honored to be here with you.

901
00:54:20.321 --> 00:54:21.202
And thank you for that.

902
00:54:21.342 --> 00:54:24.725
I mean, I learned a lot and I appreciate you very much.

903
00:54:25.370 --> 00:54:28.591
And if I can, I just want to leave you with a thought from my son.

904
00:54:30.912 --> 00:54:43.316
So when he came back from basic training the first time, he had marched for 50, 60 miles, you know, with so much weight on his back.

905
00:54:43.376 --> 00:54:46.097
And I saw he was like, his eyes were sunken.

906
00:54:46.157 --> 00:54:46.837
He was tired.

907
00:54:46.877 --> 00:54:53.659
And I said, Moshe, how is it that your knees don't buckle, that you don't collapse?

908
00:54:55.326 --> 00:54:59.687
He was always joking with me, so he said, I add more weight.

909
00:55:01.348 --> 00:55:03.728
I said, come on, what do you mean you add weight?

910
00:55:04.549 --> 00:55:07.349
I'm asking you how you carry all that weight and you don't collapse.

911
00:55:08.090 --> 00:55:09.250
And he said, no, I'm serious.

912
00:55:10.310 --> 00:55:17.872
I add the hopes and prayers and dreams of my grandparents on my shoulders throughout the ages, and I remember that I'm carrying their weight.

913
00:55:18.472 --> 00:55:20.693
It makes it much easier to carry the material weight.

914
00:55:21.979 --> 00:55:27.564
We are all carrying hopes and prayers and dreams of our ancestors on our shoulders.

915
00:55:28.545 --> 00:55:38.834
And the way for us to move forward and do the right thing is to add a little bit more weight, add that weight of those hopes and prayers and dreams.

916
00:55:38.955 --> 00:55:39.355
That's awesome.

917
00:55:39.475 --> 00:55:40.296
And then we'll make it work.

918
00:55:40.596 --> 00:55:42.137
Amen.

919
00:55:42.197 --> 00:55:42.258
Mr.

920
00:55:42.278 --> 00:55:43.038
Ambassador, it's an honor.

921
00:55:43.058 --> 00:55:43.479
Thank you.

922
00:55:43.579 --> 00:55:44.119
Thank you so much.